Lakers Trade IDEAS

[davoarid]

(Nuggets fan)
I imagine you have enough depth that he won't really play any non-garbage minutes, but Davon Reed is not completely useless: he's a very good perimeter Point-Of-Attack defender. Doesn't really give you anything on offense besides the ability to hit open threes, unfortunately. But he was a regular part of our rotation for most of last year and there was a lot of grumbling among Nuggets fan that we didn't make him active in our playoff series against the Warriors, because we absolutely could have used him on Curry/Poole/Thompson.

[fteru6uhre54ew]

Another SG lol- Pelinka loves SG.

With the first and the three seconds plus some of those guards if you haul a package of DFS, Royce and Vanvleet doing a three-team trade that's a big upgrade and a team ready to compete. Pelinka better don't hesitate.

[cheese318]

I think LAL did some great maneuvering. I’ve always thought Bamba has a lot of talent and can really help a team. Only cost 2nd rounder & Pat Bev is a home run plus his salary next year is not guaranteed so if it’s a good fit they keep him and if not they cut bait. The fact they did all these upgrades while keeping that 2029 FRP is impressive. They can try to package Lonnie Walker & 2029 FRP but salary matching for a player might be a bit of a problem as LAL will most likely lose Lonnie in free agency anyways so do you move him now for a player. The key ingredient in all these trades LAL are in a much better position today than yesterday for the off-season with more flexibility. Much more liquid and shocking to think Deangelo Russell is still only 26/27

[cheese318]

We aren't. Davis is playing the 5 full time now and Vando can back him up when he sits.

Bryant was useless. He didn't play close to nothing since Davis was back.

We can use the 2nd rounders in other deals.

Bamba is now going to be the backup

[fteru6uhre54ew]

So Rob hasn't done it nothing just trade Beverley and Bryant for nothing. And he have the assests to improve the team even more.

[cheese318]

So Rob hasn't done it nothind just trade Beverley and Bryant for nothing. And he have the assests to improve the team even more.

What do you mean nothing? Bamba gives them much needed size when AD is off the court. Is this a title bound team probably not but they are a much better team for tomorrow and the future longterm. Plus they didn’t have to trade 2029 FRP to do everything they did. Can’t really destroy Pelinka for getting out of the mess he was in and I’m his biggest critic. See how cheap Jeanie Buss is this off-season because she is always coupon clipping instead of trying to win

[fteru6uhre54ew]

So Rob hasn't done it nothind just trade Beverley and Bryant for nothing. And he have the assests to improve the team even more.

What do you mean nothing? Bamba gives them much needed size when AD is off the court. Is this a title bound team probably not but they are a much better team for tomorrow and the future longterm. Plus they didn’t have to trade 2029 FRP to do everything they did. Can’t really destroy Pelinka for getting out of the mess he was in and I’m his biggest critic. See how cheap Jeanie Buss is this off-season because she is always coupon clipping instead of trying to win

Realistically. The only improves are Vanderbilt and Hachimura and take out Westbrook of the team two years later. The team was better with Bryant and Beverley than with Bamba. Bamba is not going to play nothing I can tell you. He didn't play in Orlando because he was useless he is worst than Bryant, Bryant is a much better offensive player and at least know how to play. Then you have two players in Malik Beasley and D-Lo how are pretty irregular both. Malik Beasley I don't know what the people know about him but he always has been a bench player with good or bad games but nothing consistent.

I thought the trades of Bryant and Beverley was to improve the roster to get good players who can help make a competitive roster more when you have the rounds and assest to trade for good players not make it worst than yesterday.

[Kilroy]

I assumed this deadline would pass with no moves, like they usually do for us... So this has been refreshing in that sense...

The Rui trade was a good, if not great trade, the Westbrook trade was pretty great and I personally, like the Bamba trade... So I'm happy with all of them...

I'm not really sure they move the needle for us a whole lot this season, but I think we got solid to good return on all of them... And I like that these weren't purely win-now moves... Showed some guts and creativity from our FO... Great to see...

Bottom line is, just like before the season started and up until today, this season is entirely dependent on AD... If he plays not just good, but great, we have a legit shot at at least the WCF... If he doesn't, nothing we've done so far will matter...
So, this entire org needs to be lazer focused, not on getting LeBron the scoring title, but getting AD healthy/engaged/comfortable/happy... When that 3 fell and LeBron topped Kap, the entire org needed to shift from 'pleasing LeBron' to 'pleasing AD'... If that's even possible...

So who knows... These moves seem to have addressed a lot of things this team needed to some degree or other... Now I just want to see how AD reacts...

[tamaraw08]

So Rob hasn't done it nothind just trade Beverley and Bryant for nothing. And he have the assests to improve the team even more.

What do you mean nothing? Bamba gives them much needed size when AD is off the court. Is this a title bound team probably not but they are a much better team for tomorrow and the future longterm. Plus they didn’t have to trade 2029 FRP to do everything they did. Can’t really destroy Pelinka for getting out of the mess he was in and I’m his biggest critic. See how cheap Jeanie Buss is this off-season because she is always coupon clipping instead of trying to win

Realistically. The only improves are Vanderbilt and Hachimura and take out Westbrook of the team two years later. The team was better with Bryant and Beverley than with Bamba. Bamba is not going to play nothing I can tell you. He didn't play in Orlando because he was useless he is worst than Bryant, Bryant is a much better offensive player and at least know how to play. Then you have two players in Malik Beasley and D-Lo how are pretty irregular both. Malik Beasley I don't know what the people know about him but he always has been a bench player with good or bad games but nothing consistent.

I thought the trades of Bryant and Beverley was to improve the roster to get good players who can help make a competitive roster more when you have the rounds and assest to trade for good players not make it worst than yesterday.

Yeah, not a fan of the Orlando trade either. When Mo Wagner is playing more minutes and the young Bamba on his 4th year just playing 17 minutes, I can't help but wonder if there is something wrong with this guy. He's a young athletic 7-0 center who can shoots a decent % and yet barely being used by a young team.
I am one of the few who likes Pat Bev, Yes, can be irritating to even Lakers fans but the guy tries very hard and he has been shooting fairly well after the horrible Oct-Nov. The problem was Ham kept using him to defend prolific forwards who are 5-7 inches taller than him. Darvin too for some reason hated to play Thomas Bryant when AD is on the floor, don't know why, but he just looks useless lately.

[heezyo2o]

I was on board with trading Lebron in the summer, but now even it doesn't workout in the 2nd half, I want to see what Lebron and company can do next season.

KD got what 5 first round picks and a solid player. Wonder what Lebron could get

[Pointgod]

This deadline showed the best and worst of Pelinka. Unlike the previous regime, he’s not too conservative and can be aggressive in making deals. He went after Hachimura which was an A deal. He move Thomas Bryant for 3 seconds which is pretty good value. Beverly for Bamba also brought some much needed size while getting a 7 footer that can space the floor while playing with Lebron and Davis.

Now the bad can be seen with the Russell trade. A complete panic move meant to appease Lebron. From a personnel standpoint it’s a good trade, the problem is that by giving up a first we’ve essentially taken ourselves out of the running for any Allstar that wants out in the summer. I don’t think the cap-space is big a deal because the free agent class is weak, but if we were to chase them then we’d have to pretty much get rid of everybody to get cap-space which means we traded our pick for nothing. And it might cost us our 2023 pick as well.

All these trades might lead to us making the play in, only for us to get smashed by Denver, Grizzlies or Suns.

[DanishLakerFan]

Kevin Love and Danny Green as buy out candidates?

[zuju]

Kevin Love and Danny Green as buy out candidates?

Are you looking for veteran presence for Chemistry building or capability on the court ?

Its time to think about the buyout or the free agent.

I wouldn't mind Love or Green. Both can be great veteran presence. IF you have a very good player out there who can contribute on court though, you may think twice on what you want.

More buyout would be available in coming days.

[loveshaq786]

bigs that can shoot....

love, ibaka, melo

also very interested in drose

[Pythagoras]

This deadline showed the best and worst of Pelinka. Unlike the previous regime, he’s not too conservative and can be aggressive in making deals. He went after Hachimura which was an A deal. He move Thomas Bryant for 3 seconds which is pretty good value. Beverly for Bamba also brought some much needed size while getting a 7 footer that can space the floor while playing with Lebron and Davis.

Now the bad can be seen with the Russell trade. A complete panic move meant to appease Lebron. From a personnel standpoint it’s a good trade, the problem is that by giving up a first we’ve essentially taken ourselves out of the running for any Allstar that wants out in the summer. I don’t think the cap-space is big a deal because the free agent class is weak, but if we were to chase them then we’d have to pretty much get rid of everybody to get cap-space which means we traded our pick for nothing. And it might cost us our 2023 pick as well.

All these trades might lead to us making the play in, only for us to get smashed by Denver, Grizzlies or Suns.

The Lakers weren’t going to have the matching salaries to send out for an all star demanding out anyway. The Westbrook deal allows them to continue to operate as an over the cap team, while not tying up the 29 pick.

There wasn’t any realistic path to a trade for an all-star this offseason if they let Westbrook expire.

[loveshaq786]

bigs that can shoot....

love, ibaka, melo

also very interested in drose

[Syko_boB]

Melo would be nice to bring back

He can hold some mins at the 4/5 if we do go big with Mo & AD together for long stretches

with a bench of

Carmelo
Gabriel
Hachimura
Beasley
Schroder
and one of Vanderbilt/Reaves/Walker
theres enough size and switchability across diff lineups for him to be covered on D, while giving them a nice option to kick out at any moment on offense

However id hate to bring another legend into a crappy situation, so I might wait til the deadline for signing players and see if the vibes are right

[Pointgod]

This deadline showed the best and worst of Pelinka. Unlike the previous regime, he’s not too conservative and can be aggressive in making deals. He went after Hachimura which was an A deal. He move Thomas Bryant for 3 seconds which is pretty good value. Beverly for Bamba also brought some much needed size while getting a 7 footer that can space the floor while playing with Lebron and Davis.

Now the bad can be seen with the Russell trade. A complete panic move meant to appease Lebron. From a personnel standpoint it’s a good trade, the problem is that by giving up a first we’ve essentially taken ourselves out of the running for any Allstar that wants out in the summer. I don’t think the cap-space is big a deal because the free agent class is weak, but if we were to chase them then we’d have to pretty much get rid of everybody to get cap-space which means we traded our pick for nothing. And it might cost us our 2023 pick as well.

All these trades might lead to us making the play in, only for us to get smashed by Denver, Grizzlies or Suns.

The Lakers weren’t going to have the matching salaries to send out for an all star demanding out anyway. The Westbrook deal allows them to continue to operate as an over the cap team, while not tying up the 29 pick.

There wasn’t any realistic path to a trade for an all-star this offseason if they let Westbrook expire.

I agree what it was right to trade Westbrook and operate as a team over the cap (I made the argument in another thread). What I don’t agree with is trading the first round pick in the process which in reality takes us out of the running for any trade for a sane allstar in the summer. Just look at going rate of all stars from a pick package in the past couple of years.

James Harden (Nets)-3 first round picks and 4 swaps
Rudy Gobert- 4 picks and 1 swap
Donovan Mitchell- 3 picks and 2 swaps
Dejounte Murray- 3 picks and 1 swap
Kevin Durant-4 picks and 1 swap
Jrue Holiday-2 picks and 2 swaps

Now tell me how we could be competitive next year from a pick package, never mind a young asset package. We’ll have what’s most likely a mid to low first round pick and the 29’ pick. That’s it. We can’t make a competitive offer for the next all-star that demands a trade whether that’s KAT, Trey Young or Siakim. My suspicion is that they’re still going to go after Kyrie, using a sign and trade for D-Lo. The problem is bringing in Kyrie is like a deal with the devil, the bill always comes due. I would have moved Westbrook at all all costs even if it means taking back another longer salary, but any first round picks would be off the table.

[Pythagoras]

This deadline showed the best and worst of Pelinka. Unlike the previous regime, he’s not too conservative and can be aggressive in making deals. He went after Hachimura which was an A deal. He move Thomas Bryant for 3 seconds which is pretty good value. Beverly for Bamba also brought some much needed size while getting a 7 footer that can space the floor while playing with Lebron and Davis.

Now the bad can be seen with the Russell trade. A complete panic move meant to appease Lebron. From a personnel standpoint it’s a good trade, the problem is that by giving up a first we’ve essentially taken ourselves out of the running for any Allstar that wants out in the summer. I don’t think the cap-space is big a deal because the free agent class is weak, but if we were to chase them then we’d have to pretty much get rid of everybody to get cap-space which means we traded our pick for nothing. And it might cost us our 2023 pick as well.

All these trades might lead to us making the play in, only for us to get smashed by Denver, Grizzlies or Suns.

The Lakers weren’t going to have the matching salaries to send out for an all star demanding out anyway. The Westbrook deal allows them to continue to operate as an over the cap team, while not tying up the 29 pick.

There wasn’t any realistic path to a trade for an all-star this offseason if they let Westbrook expire.

I agree what it was right to trade Westbrook and operate as a team over the cap (I made the argument in another thread). What I don’t agree with is trading the first round pick in the process which in reality takes us out of the running for any trade for a sane allstar in the summer. Just look at going rate of all stars from a pick package in the past couple of years.

James Harden (Nets)-3 first round picks and 4 swaps
Rudy Gobert- 4 picks and 1 swap
Donovan Mitchell- 3 picks and 2 swaps
Dejounte Murray- 3 picks and 1 swap
Kevin Durant-4 picks and 1 swap
Jrue Holiday-2 picks and 2 swaps

Now tell me how we could be competitive next year from a pick package, never mind a young asset package. We’ll have what’s most likely a mid to low first round pick and the 29’ pick. That’s it. We can’t make a competitive offer for the next all-star that demands a trade whether that’s KAT, Trey Young or Siakim. My suspicion is that they’re still going to go after Kyrie, using a sign and trade for D-Lo. The problem is bringing in Kyrie is like a deal with the devil, the bill always comes due. I would have moved Westbrook at all all costs even if it means taking back another longer salary, but any first round picks would be off the table.

Well I can’t disagree with any of this. I think they’re still angling to get Kyrie too, and like you I think they’re hopeful for a sign and trade with D’Lo. It’s one of the reasons I’m not even going to bother getting emotionally attached to the current revamped core.

Like you, I also have HUGE reservations about Kyrie.

Also, gut feeling says KAT is the next superstar to ask out.

[Pointgod]

The Lakers weren’t going to have the matching salaries to send out for an all star demanding out anyway. The Westbrook deal allows them to continue to operate as an over the cap team, while not tying up the 29 pick.

There wasn’t any realistic path to a trade for an all-star this offseason if they let Westbrook expire.

I agree what it was right to trade Westbrook and operate as a team over the cap (I made the argument in another thread). What I don’t agree with is trading the first round pick in the process which in reality takes us out of the running for any trade for a sane allstar in the summer. Just look at going rate of all stars from a pick package in the past couple of years.

James Harden (Nets)-3 first round picks and 4 swaps
Rudy Gobert- 4 picks and 1 swap
Donovan Mitchell- 3 picks and 2 swaps
Dejounte Murray- 3 picks and 1 swap
Kevin Durant-4 picks and 1 swap
Jrue Holiday-2 picks and 2 swaps

Now tell me how we could be competitive next year from a pick package, never mind a young asset package. We’ll have what’s most likely a mid to low first round pick and the 29’ pick. That’s it. We can’t make a competitive offer for the next all-star that demands a trade whether that’s KAT, Trey Young or Siakim. My suspicion is that they’re still going to go after Kyrie, using a sign and trade for D-Lo. The problem is bringing in Kyrie is like a deal with the devil, the bill always comes due. I would have moved Westbrook at all all costs even if it means taking back another longer salary, but any first round picks would be off the table.

Well I can’t disagree with any of this. I think they’re still angling to get Kyrie too, and like you I think they’re hopeful for a sign and trade with D’Lo. It’s one of the reasons I’m not even going to bother getting emotionally attached to the current revamped core.

Like you, I also have HUGE reservations about Kyrie.

Also, gut feeling says KAT is the next superstar to ask out.

This could be like a group therapy session of all the teams and fanbases that talked themselves into Kyrie. It’s a very observable pattern for him. Boston, Cleveland, Nets, Dallas will be next. The guy is toxic and as talented as he is, he also can’t stay healthy. Does anyone remember he tried to demand a trade in the offseason and threatened to take the MLE? He only backed off when he saw no team really wanted him. It’s almost a certainty that the Lakers will delude themselves into trying to sign and trade him in the offseason and give up a pick as well.