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You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:14 pm
by LordBaldric
If it's true that Rambis was the head coach in waiting after Phil retires, you guy really lucked out. This dude is an arrogant POS, a total trainwreck.

Forcing the triangle onto players not suited is bad enough, but man, his rotations are a failure of cyclopean proportions. In a supposedly "developmental year", bums like Sasha Pavlovic, who should never play in the NBA again, much less on the TWolves, get playing time that should be going to someone like Wayne Ellington. This is only one of myriad examples.

Then you have the case of Kevin Love, one of the few players on my team that should do well in the triangle. Averaging 15/13/3 as a starter, Rambis decides he needs to go the the bench to open up playing time for first Ryan Holllins (belch), then Darko. Darko! As the final months of the season progress, fewer and fewer minutes are given to Love (including many sub-20 minute nights), and unsurprisingly the amount of wins decreases with his minutes. At first I thought it was just a tank job, but the madness continued well past the point it was necessary to secure the second worst record.

It was highlighted last night in our game vs Detroit, who were sitting all their best players in an obvious attempt to lose. Love has 9 pts and 10 boards in 18 minutes, then sits the whole 4th quarter, and watches from the bench as the Wolves collapse and blow their lead in a loss. All the while the Piston commentators were mocking us, saying how lucky they were that Kevin was sidelined. Embarassing. Rambis after the game says Love showed "a lack of effort". How a player can be on pace for 18 & 20 without exerting himself is a silly enough idea, but contrast it to Al Jefferson's season long lack of effort while always getting big minutes, and it becomes a sick joke.

Now Love is openly disgruntled, and I wouldn't be surprised to see his agent issue a trade demand in the near future. If this happens I can only hope he lands with a quality organization like yours.

Thank you Kurt Rambis, crappiest head coach in the league! :cry:

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:29 pm
by ShowtimeFan
The Wovles sucked long before Rambis was hired... Phil Jackson might have won 3 more games, so who cares really?

And as No. 6 would say: Be Seeing You...

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:35 pm
by Danny Darko
Sounds like he was paying attention to Phil.

Will say this:

1-He has every right to use the triangle and it's the players bad if they don't buy in and an inevitability that it's going to take years to learn for most players, but it has to start some time and you name a more effective system?

2-yeah, he's known to be overly hard on players and he does sound like Phil that way. Bynum got no love from Phil until this year and when he went down Phil was all snyde comments.

Give it another year. On some levels you want a high draft pick and you want your coach to do the tanking and not the players, so be glad there are guys on the team pissed about it.

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:46 pm
by microfib4thewin
While I am no Rambis lover, I'd say it's way too early to give him a report card. The Wolves are not going to win anything right now, and it's expected to have bumps along the way. If the team still hasn't shown any improvement next year then you have a right to question his coaching. It also took PJ some time to teach the triangle to the current Laker team, and maybe Rambis can do the same to the Wolves.

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:32 pm
by slifersd
On the topic of Kevin Love, I think the blame should not be placed solely on Rambis. As far as Love is a good player, there had always been question marks surrounding him and Jefferson. The fact of matter is, the two of them do seem to have trouble playing with one another. I just read a couple of days ago about how Jefferson enjoyed playing with Darko and vice versa. The management of the wolves decided to trade for Love and form a twin tower that had compatability issues instead of keeping the much needed perimeter scorer in Mayo, can't blame Rambis for that.

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:39 am
by snaquille oatmeal
a new player playing on a team that already know the triangle takes anywhere between 6 months to a year and a half to learn the basics. how long do you think it is going to take an entire team to learn it from scratch? be prepared to see some improvement late next season and a decent season the year after that.

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:46 am
by Slava
Two things.

1. Phil Jackson after running the triangle offense for close to 10+ seasons still hired Tex Winter to help him as recently as a couple of seasons ago.

Kurt Rambis has not seen that offense for more than 4 seasons himself. Which makes me wonder why he's forcing the issue at Minnesota when he's got a team built for an open court system with Kevin Love as the big guy, Sessions and Flynn for PGs with another stud (Rubio) coming in.

2. Rambis is a very rigid and stubborn individual even when he coached the Lakers for a short time now and then. Till now I think him and Kobe don't exactly have the smoothest of relations. Giving him the free reign of a team is very suspect judgment on behalf of David Kahn.

Everyday I hear someone on that Minny team talk about not knowing their role etc. Rambis is in fact lucky the expectations are not high up there.

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:44 am
by DEEP3CL
snaquille oatmeal wrote:a new player playing on a team that already know the triangle takes anywhere between 6 months to a year and a half to learn the basics. how long do you think it is going to take an entire team to learn it from scratch? be prepared to see some improvement late next season and a decent season the year after that.
Exactly snaq, dude is over reacting. I've had plenty of convo with Minny guys telling them to be patient with Kurt and the Triangle, they have the guys that system is suited for. They'll improve next season, K-Love and Big Al will make that offense flawless......just watch.

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:16 am
by LordBaldric
Oh. Btw. Wilt Chamberlain was the best player to ever play the game IMO.

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:44 am
by Mamba Venom
Rambis was OK but he is a rookie coach and he wont be any good until his 3rd or 4th year

Re: You guys dodged a bullet

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:46 am
by LAKESHOW
dodged a bullet? some guys around here were very very happy to see rambis go, even to the point that some thought we did it on purpose! so we purposely placed that bullet over in minnesota!