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If We Win Will The Celts Be Able to Get Back Up?

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If We Win Will The Celts Be Able to Get Back Up? 

Post#1 » by Mamba Venom » Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:29 am

If We Win Will The Celts Be Able to Get Back Up?

I don't think so.

Not w/ KG being 35 and 5 years older than Pau.
Not w/ old Rasheed Walace coming off the bench
Not w/ Ray Allen leaving in free agency

Heck if we win the Celts might need to blow it up and rebuild around Rondo.

We can deal this franchise a crippling blow. One that will make the Celts need 20 more years of losing before getting it back together. The Finals are going to be EPIC.

Ice Cubes right, we can put their ass in the coffin. And when we do this team will be DONE.

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Post#2 » by CX44 » Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:33 am

I agree and there will be no Kevin Mchale to trade a hall of famer for a bag of magic beans to rebuild them.
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Post#3 » by Desiderium » Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:34 am

i doubt a team that wins the eastern conference will need to blow up their team, especially how they man-handled the cavs and magic
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Post#4 » by DEEP3CL » Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:48 am

Truth is this is their last hurrah, instead of their fans predicting titles they should start guessing lottery positions.
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Post#5 » by Dr Aki » Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:54 am

no, i can see them coming back next post-season

as long as lebron and other FAs dont magically appear on the same team, celtics have a great chance to be back next year pending health
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Post#6 » by laka4life » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:13 am

DEEP3CL wrote:Truth is this is their last hurrah, instead of their fans predicting titles they should start guessing lottery positions.


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Post#7 » by shatoda » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:22 am

laka4life wrote:
DEEP3CL wrote:Truth is this is their last hurrah, instead of their fans predicting titles they should start guessing lottery positions.


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Post#8 » by laka4life » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:23 am

The thing the Celts use more than anything to their advantage is the Tough persona. That will be exposed for what it truly is, and be wiped away.
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Post#9 » by KingLakers » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:40 am

I wouldn't call this season the Celtics last hurrah I think they got one more good year left in them because if there is lots of movement in free agency it'll mostly effect eastern teams which means alot of teams will have new chemistry to work on all season which could give the Celtics which by then they will be in their 4th season together a good chance to get back to the finals. But ya they won't be doing anything past next season.
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Post#10 » by beastt » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:40 am

man i wish i had some of the confidence you guys do, im a die hard laker fan, but i cant help but be nervous, i've been nervous since the finals were confirmed
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Post#11 » by Troll » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:55 am

I think they will have one more go at it next year but after that i think its over for the Big 3 era.
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Post#12 » by Fencer reregistered » Thu Jun 3, 2010 11:21 am

Local sportswriters, apparently with the encouragement of management, are of the opinion it's a pretty narrow window.

I do think Ray will be re-signed.

For the window to be more than narrow, a lot of things have to go right. Rondo really does have to get to top 5-10 in the league level. Perk has to play decent offense for more than a couple of months at a time. The Big 3 have to decline slowly and gracefully. Or Danny has to have another Rondo-level success in the draft.

That's all possible, but it's not the way to bet.
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Post#13 » by laka4life » Thu Jun 3, 2010 12:25 pm

beastt wrote:man i wish i had some of the confidence you guys do, im a die hard laker fan, but i cant help but be nervous, i've been nervous since the finals were confirmed


Your nervousness is understandable. 2008 was ugly. But you need remember this team HAS ZERO in common with that team
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Post#14 » by magic1fan » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:51 pm

they ,ight have one more run in them but to be honest if we win this year i see us winning the next two after this. if we get another point guard bring fish off the bench and get a three point shooter we would be unstoppable.
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Post#15 » by TommyTheCat » Thu Jun 3, 2010 2:59 pm

with rondo becoming all-star caliber and perkins being a solid starting center, i think they'll have a 2-3 year window with kg and pierce.

obviously, they need to resign allen for cheap or find a replacement and bolster their bench.

rondo stepping up has really kept their window open, imo. how huge would it be for the lakers to have a farmar develop into an all-star.............................and yes, i'm laughing as i typed that last bit
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Post#16 » by JSABleedsGreen » Thu Jun 3, 2010 4:59 pm

laka4life wrote:The thing the Celts use more than anything to their advantage is the Tough persona. That will be exposed for what it truly is, and be wiped away.


I think you are right....this could be their last hurrah.....I'm not sure those old legs have enough left to get another run next year or anything after that, without some serious help.

How much more do you think the Lakers have though? Kobe is not getting any younger and his current injury prone body isn't getting younger. Plus he just signed for a huge salary pay for the next 3 to 4 years. They have 2 players at big salaries too (Gasol and Bynum). Is there enough cap space to get skilled players at other positions? Also the rest of the West is getting better. OKC has big things coming to them if those young kids stay together.

Of course the Lakers window is a lot larger that the Celtics window.....This might be it for the C's, The lakers though are not that far off behind (they might have the same window the C's had in 2008) .... in other words 2 solid years left after this. Just my observation as a true basketball fan.
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Post#17 » by laka4life » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:02 pm

JSABleedsGreen wrote:
laka4life wrote:The thing the Celts use more than anything to their advantage is the Tough persona. That will be exposed for what it truly is, and be wiped away.


I think you are right....this could be their last hurrah.....I'm not sure those old legs have enough left to get another run next year or anything after that, without some serious help.

How much more do you think the Lakers have though? Kobe is not getting any younger and his current injury prone body isn't getting younger. Plus he just signed for a huge salary pay for the next 3 to 4 years. They have 2 players at big salaries too (Gasol and Bynum). Is there enough cap space to get skilled players at other positions? Also the rest of the West is getting better. OKC has big things coming to them if those young kids stay together.

Of course the Lakers window is a lot larger that the Celtics window.....This might be it for the C's, The lakers though are not that far off behind (they might have the same window the C's had in 2008) .... in other words 2 solid years left after this. Just my observation as a true basketball fan.


Here are two factors with Kobe we can be hopeful of and confident in that others can't be with their fading stars.

1. Kobe outworks everyone in this league. Period. I'll go get quotes if I need to. His work ethic is legendary. Commitment to the game is unquestionable.

2. Kobe is sooooo multi-dimensional. When the knees begin to go, he'll start playing the post like he did early in the season when he was shootin around 60% from the field.

Bottom line is, he'll always find a way.
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Post#18 » by JSABleedsGreen » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:23 pm

laka4life wrote:
JSABleedsGreen wrote:
laka4life wrote:The thing the Celts use more than anything to their advantage is the Tough persona. That will be exposed for what it truly is, and be wiped away.


I think you are right....this could be their last hurrah.....I'm not sure those old legs have enough left to get another run next year or anything after that, without some serious help.

How much more do you think the Lakers have though? Kobe is not getting any younger and his current injury prone body isn't getting younger. Plus he just signed for a huge salary pay for the next 3 to 4 years. They have 2 players at big salaries too (Gasol and Bynum). Is there enough cap space to get skilled players at other positions? Also the rest of the West is getting better. OKC has big things coming to them if those young kids stay together.

Of course the Lakers window is a lot larger that the Celtics window.....This might be it for the C's, The lakers though are not that far off behind (they might have the same window the C's had in 2008) .... in other words 2 solid years left after this. Just my observation as a true basketball fan.


Here are two factors with Kobe we can be hopeful of and confident in that others can't be with their fading stars.

1. Kobe outworks everyone in this league. Period. I'll go get quotes if I need to. His work ethic is legendary. Commitment to the game is unquestionable.

2. Kobe is sooooo multi-dimensional. When the knees begin to go, he'll start playing the post like he did early in the season when he was shootin around 60% from the field.

Bottom line is, he'll always find a way.


You got that. He is commited. He's commited to being better that MJ. You can see it. He's got heart, no doubt about that. He's got the flare that MJ had.....no one is going to be better than me.

If more players had that hunger.....the league would be awesome!!!! unfortunately that hunger only a select few had...Kobe, MJ, Magic, Bird.....those players had something that the rest of the players (probably missing a few others) did not have.......like it was something in their DNA.

That being said though......injuries man.....once they start to kick in.....they are with you for life and there's no turning back.....he might adjust his game ..... but his game the way it is now is what makes him that special player.....changing it though could actually make him guardable....as oppose to unguardable.
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Post#19 » by laka4life » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:32 pm

That being said though......injuries man.....once they start to kick in.....they are with you for life and there's no turning back.....he might adjust his game ..... but his game the way it is now is what makes him that special player.....changing it though could actually make him guardable....as oppose to unguardable.


I know it was a small sample size of about 12 games until Pau returned, but when Kobe was able to play the post, trust me he was absolutely unguardable. Every coach in this league would prefer he launch 20 footers fading away then be down in the post. He may not weigh what guys like Pierce, Ron, and Bron weigh, but he's just as if not tougher on the block than any of them. He is 80's basketball on the post. Elbows, shoulders, the whole 9 yards.

Will he average 27+ ppg til he's 40? Come on now I ain't on the pipe. But he can still be incredibly effective and the LEADER of this team that he has become. Pau will eventually get more and more shots, and we are the Lakers. Eventually we will get a youth piece that is like your Rondo. It's not like we are the Trailblazers or Kings who just return to oblivion after nice runs. We'll reload with a Rondo like piece soon enough, trust me
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Post#20 » by JSABleedsGreen » Thu Jun 3, 2010 5:48 pm

laka4life wrote:
That being said though......injuries man.....once they start to kick in.....they are with you for life and there's no turning back.....he might adjust his game ..... but his game the way it is now is what makes him that special player.....changing it though could actually make him guardable....as oppose to unguardable.


I know it was a small sample size of about 12 games until Pau returned, but when Kobe was able to play the post, trust me he was absolutely unguardable. Every coach in this league would prefer he launch 20 footers fading away then be down in the post. He may not weigh what guys like Pierce, Ron, and Bron weigh, but he's just as if not tougher on the block than any of them. He is 80's basketball on the post. Elbows, shoulders, the whole 9 yards.

Will he average 27+ ppg til he's 40? Come on now I ain't on the pipe. But he can still be incredibly effective and the LEADER of this team that he has become. Pau will eventually get more and more shots, and we are the Lakers. Eventually we will get a youth piece that is like your Rondo. It's not like we are the Trailblazers or Kings who just return to oblivion after nice runs. We'll reload with a Rondo like piece soon enough, trust me


Ok you make solid points. Specially about him hitting the post. The only concern is that knee man....i've seen many ballers not be the same guy after the knee's start to go. If that knee is just a tired knee .... than i feel you.

Also....some the Lakers have always found a way to stay afloat. I agree there. They've have always found a player or two to keep them afloat until the next superstar arrives, Usually in the shape of a big man...Kareem, Magic, Shaq....even Gasol.

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