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Post#1 » by xkirruax » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:13 pm

OK we are the champs now to work on the 3 peet. What do guys think, ill leave some bullets please try 2 fill them out and explain why.
Resign Fisher -
Resign Phil -
Resign Farmar -
Resign Shanon -
Trade Bynum for Bosh -
Trade Bynum for someone else -
MLE who -
Trade Sasha -
Trade Gasol for Bosh

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Post#2 » by xkirruax » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:22 pm

Resign Fisher - I dont think we should he had his last hurrah The man is worthless 95 % of the time and he should bow out at a high note. People have been turning on him the past 2 years he shouldnt taint his Legacy like this.
Resign Phil - This one is tricky just cuz Phil hates to work with Young players and unless we want a young drought we are going to need 2 start working with a young core off the bench to help us translate into another Era after this one. Yet Phil is the best when he wants to be so its hard for me.
Resign Farmar - Guy is not the kind of PG this team needs he would be better suited else where
Resign Shanon - If he opts out Lakers should let him go if he wants more money
Trade Bynum for Bosh - This is a Lateral move at best why do it?
Trade Bynum for someone else - Outside of a hand full of players i wouldnt trade Bynum the players i would trade him for are Josh Howard Chris Paul and Lecrab James outside of that i would rather keep bynum
MLE who - if we get Earl Watson and Chris Duhon or Raymond Felton i would be happy with the MLE like that.
Trade Sasha - If him with Ammo S& T gets us Kirk ill do it.
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Post#3 » by ChampagnePapa » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:30 pm

xkirruax wrote:Resign Fisher - I dont think we should he had his last hurrah The man is worthless 95 % of the time and he should bow out at a high note. People have been turning on him the past 2 years he shouldnt taint his Legacy like this.
Resign Phil - This one is tricky just cuz Phil hates to work with Young players and unless we want a young drought we are going to need 2 start working with a young core off the bench to help us translate into another Era after this one. Yet Phil is the best when he wants to be so its hard for me.
Resign Farmar - Guy is not the kind of PG this team needs he would be better suited else where
Resign Shanon - If he opts out Lakers should let him go if he wants more money
Trade Bynum for Bosh - This is a Lateral move at best why do it?
Trade Bynum for someone else - Outside of a hand full of players i wouldnt trade Bynum the players i would trade him for are Josh Howard Chris Paul and Lecrab James outside of that i would rather keep bynum
MLE who - if we get Earl Watson and Chris Duhon or Raymond Felton i would be happy with the MLE like that.
Trade Sasha - If him with Ammo S& T gets us Kirk ill do it.


Resigning Fisher is a must, even if he comes off the bench. How can you watch the playoffs and say he's useless? He's no superstar but he provides a lot more than what is shown on the court.
Phil- That's going to end up being his choice. The fact that the Lakers won means it'll be tough to walk for him but who knows.
Farmar is solid but will want more money than he's worth to us...however, if we are playing to sign a PG anyway, he would be the same as Watson, Duhon and others so thats a tough call.
Shannon Brown sucks. Antonio Harvey used to be able to dunk too...he shoots too many jumpers and is not good enough on D to warrant a spot. So I agree, if he wants to come back cheap, cool, any type of raise, see ya!
Trading Bynum would be sad, after watching him gut through this playoff series. However, its not an even move for Bosh or a handful of others because the guy just can't stay healthy. Lakers could get burned if he becomes a monster but we need to maximize the talent right now, while Kobe/Pau are around. We could easily address our PG spot with that Bosh deal if we include Calderon or Jack, who they've been trying to peddle. Not saying I endorse it 100% but injury problems can ruin a career, look at Yao. The guy can't stay healthy and they have yet to even taste a Finals appearance. Same with Sabonis, who could never play his real game, one of the best in the world because of injury. Anyone that plays fantasy basketball knows the names of all the injury riddled players. The same way its a gamble there is the gamble in reailty.

Until then....let's enjoy the 16th. Not like we have much goign on in the draft besides grabbing a couple D-leaguers in the 2nd or shipping them for some cash Buss can put on the poker table. Can't wait for next season, Lakers start in April after about 90-95 preseason games.
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Post#4 » by That Nicka » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:02 pm

Re-sign Fisher
Sign JJ Redick for MLE
keep one of Farmar or Brown (whoever wants to stay for cheaper)

keep the rest of the roster intact.



Fisher/Redick/(Brown or Farmar)
Bryant/Vujacic
Artest/Walton
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Post#5 » by TommyTheCat » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:04 pm

i'm enjoying this one before i think about more
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Post#6 » by frozt » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:05 pm

Resign Fisher- 100% yes, I was on him all season line but seriously guys is there any doubting that the Lakers need him after how well he played in the playoffs, even if it means coming off the bench if he's willing to play the Lakers must keep him for veteran presence that seems so crucial to the team.
Resign Phil - 100% must if he's willing to coach another year even if that means forking over that extra money which seems like the problem.
Resign Farmar - Don't resign looking for more $.
Resign Shanon - Don't resign looking for more $.
Trade Bynum for Bosh - I'm sorry I know everyone thinks this is a lateral movement blah blah our defense, oh no. But the fact is you ALWAYS trade for something that is 100%, drew gets injured again (It won't happen 3 times will it) the Lakers are once again at a disadvantage, you bring in Chris Bosh and get him committed on the defensive end and the Lakers are SCARY with how offensively powerful they are. You always trade for a sure thing and Chris Bosh is an all star in this league.
Trade Bynum for someone else - My preference would be Bynum for Hinrich / Noah tandem. Hinrich is just the perfect point guard at the point for the Lakers with his defense and ability to hit the three and Noah just perfectly compliments Gasol making up for his lack of O with Heart, Rebounding, Defense, Hustle and commitment to make his team better, just the perfect player on the Lakers playing center not taking up the spotlight or needing the ball in his hands.
MLE who -I don't know who some of the free agents are but we do know that what we need on the team is a PG that can play D and hit the long ball, and shooters man, shooters! We need to spread the floor, imagine signing a Kyle Korver or J.J. Redick if possible.
Trade Sasha - Yes if possible. The Lakers bench isn't as great as it once was so doing nearly anything to change it is a must.
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Post#7 » by Asianiac_24 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:34 pm

Resign Fisher- yes, but only for the vet min.
Resign Phil - Yes, if Phil is willing to continue coaching, why not
Resign Farmar - No, I hate his attitude and his lack of defense
Resign Shanon - If he opts out, bye
Trade Bynum for Bosh - Straight up? Sure. If we need to add incentives to the deal then no
Trade Bynum for someone else - If its the superstars (LeBron, Wade, Dwight, etc)
MLE who - JJ Redick
Trade Sasha - Probably not. Sasha has no value around the league, as well keep him

Draft Jon Schemyer or Randle.

Redick/Fisher/draft guy
Kobe/Sasha
Artest/Walton/Kobe in spot minutes
Gasol/Odom/Powell
Bynum/Gasol/Mbenga
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Post#8 » by stunnar0b » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:14 pm

dude your acting as if we lost the finals and got to reamp the roster... the only thing we got to do is let go farmar or brown and ammo to make way for kirk thats all

whoevers thinking of getting rid of bynum is smoking crack

let put it simple so everybody could understand... with bynum we're big and strong without we're weak and soft
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Post#9 » by daddyfivestar » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:19 pm

xkirruax wrote:OK we are the champs now to work on the 3 peet. What do guys think, ill leave some bullets please try 2 fill them out and explain why.
Resign Fisher - YES
Resign Phil - YES
Resign Farmar - NO
Resign Shannon - NO, or maybe he just opts in
Trade Bynum for Bosh - NO, that ship has sailed
Trade Bynum for someone else - NO
MLE who - see my Offseason on the official thread
Trade Sasha - see my Offseason on the official thread, for the 1 trade LA makes

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Post#10 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:26 pm

Heres what we have, some post guys. check.

a bunch of jump shooters. check.

1 slasher/driver to the basket. check.

we need maybe another slasher/driver to the basket. a bunch of our guys can get the spacing and get into the open spot and launch. But to drive to the hole, create, dish and draw a foul? Only 1 guy can do that.

My suggestion is to get another one of those.
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Re: Looking Foward 

Post#11 » by Danny Darko » Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:39 pm

Resign Fisher - He'll take a pay cut and come off the bench. He's still clutch.

Resign Phil - 1 more year then we can hand off to Shaw

Resign Farmar - please do not unless we low ball him.

Resign Shanon - He's still getting better and when Kobe was out he did some very good things. Plus the entertainment value.

Trade Bynum for Bosh - sucks that it's such an injury gamble, but I say don't trade Drew.

Trade Bynum for someone else - Hmmm not unless it's for a stud PG with some years left in the tank

MLE who - I haven't looked at the list of PG's yet, but we want a quick D playing marksman.

Trade Sasha - At the deadline in a contract year. again primary target PG.
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Post#12 » by xkirruax » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:06 pm

I was speaking 2 some friends about Bosh and someone brought up the fact of Bosh for Gasol to extend our Window to 10 years. We can do a seemless transinoin to Kobe Lakers to Bynum Bosh front court
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Post#13 » by twix2500 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:03 pm

I do not think you trade Gasol he fits the offense so well. The player that needs to be moved is Lamar Odom. He never fit the triangle offense. He can be used to get some role players who fits this team and will have a bigger impact. I would look to the Cavs, as they are will to move two point guards who fit this team perfect in Mo Williams and Delonte West.
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Post#14 » by xkirruax » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:14 pm

twix2500 wrote:I do not think you trade Gasol he fits the offense so well. The player that needs to be moved is Lamar Odom. He never fit the triangle offense. He can be used to get some role players who fits this team and will have a bigger impact. I would look to the Cavs, as they are will to move two point guards who fit this team perfect in Mo Williams and Delonte West.

lol West and Mo are trash you do know the best thing the Lakers have going for them is there huge frountcourt and you want 2 break it up for trash like Mo and West ontop of that make the crabs stronger?
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Post#15 » by Danny Darko » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:50 pm

twix2500 wrote:I do not think you trade Gasol he fits the offense so well. The player that needs to be moved is Lamar Odom. He never fit the triangle offense. He can be used to get some role players who fits this team and will have a bigger impact. I would look to the Cavs, as they are will to move two point guards who fit this team perfect in Mo Williams and Delonte West.



but I don't think Bosh can accept the roll LO has accepted.
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Post#16 » by twix2500 » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:28 am

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twix2500 wrote:I do not think you trade Gasol he fits the offense so well. The player that needs to be moved is Lamar Odom. He never fit the triangle offense. He can be used to get some role players who fits this team and will have a bigger impact. I would look to the Cavs, as they are will to move two point guards who fit this team perfect in Mo Williams and Delonte West.



but I don't think Bosh can accept the roll LO has accepted.



Why would Bosh be used like LO?
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Post#17 » by picc » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:39 am

Just for me personally, I don't trade Odom for anyone. Too attached. I want him retiring a Laker. Even for all his inconsistency. He's been here since the rebuilding began, through the dark years, and through the rise to the top. He's earned the right to retire here IMO.
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Post#18 » by Sundov » Sat Jun 19, 2010 2:52 am

I don't think Toronto would want to trade for a center with a bum knee. yes Bynum showed a lot of heart this playoffs, but he hasn't been completely for a whole season since his rookie year. But then again Bosh isn't going back to Toronto so the raptors would want to get something back in a sign and trade.

Its gonna come down to where Bosh wants to go. IMO bosh is going to tag along with lebron or wade in either miami or new york. Maybe chicago. I bet he'd like to build something from the ground up rather than jump on the LA bandwagon where he will never get the recognition he feels he deserves because LA didn't need him to win 2 rings in the first place.
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Post#19 » by xkirruax » Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:19 am

Sundov wrote:I don't think Toronto would want to trade for a center with a bum knee. yes Bynum showed a lot of heart this playoffs, but he hasn't been completely for a whole season since his rookie year. But then again Bosh isn't going back to Toronto so the raptors would want to get something back in a sign and trade.

Its gonna come down to where Bosh wants to go. IMO bosh is going to tag along with lebron or wade in either miami or new york. Maybe chicago. I bet he'd like to build something from the ground up rather than jump on the LA bandwagon where he will never get the recognition he feels he deserves because LA didn't need him to win 2 rings in the first place.

lol Bosh already stated he wanted to come to the Lakers.
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Post#20 » by Pablo Escobar » Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:54 pm

You guys seriously want a Bosh and Gasol front court lol would it be entertaining for the regular season yeah but we wouldn't win anything with that team and Bosh has bad knees as well, Bynum just played through an injury in the finals it would suck if we trade him after the effort he gave us
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