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What is your level of concern with all of the free agents moving...If they move? We all know the major players, Wade, Bosh, and Lebron....Secondary stars being Joe Johnson and others, with a boat load of blue collar hard nose guys. How do you think this will that affect our chance to repeat. I've asked the question, I will give my opinion in another post.

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i'm not too concerned. only one team can come out of the east, and that seems to be where most of the hoopla is going to go down. takes more than 2-3 players to make a championship caliber team, so that knocks of several free agent suitors. i guess chicago would be an issue with the players they already have, but we'll see.
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should be a good offseason personally i think James and Bosh are heading to bulls...
now with that being said , whatever 2k10 team they put together i dont think they can match our battle tested veteran lead team. too much finals experience and late clock situation with role players coming up big. i like our chances no matter what with phil jackson being the only exception. we should know the answer to that pretty soon and all worrys will be set aside
now with that being said , whatever 2k10 team they put together i dont think they can match our battle tested veteran lead team. too much finals experience and late clock situation with role players coming up big. i like our chances no matter what with phil jackson being the only exception. we should know the answer to that pretty soon and all worrys will be set aside
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dcash4 wrote:i'm not too concerned. only one team can come out of the east, and that seems to be where most of the hoopla is going to go down. takes more than 2-3 players to make a championship caliber team, so that knocks of several free agent suitors. i guess chicago would be an issue with the players they already have, but we'll see.
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I Chicago team with Rose/Bron/Bosh would scare me, but they are young. Only Bron has some experience and I don't think he is clutch enough. I could honestly see Bosh/Rose butting heads for the 2nd spot.
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Regardless of what happens out east, I will be concerned if we don't shore up our holes.
I just don't want the Lakers to pass on a guy that can help because that guy is asking for 1.5 or 2 mill as opposed to the minimum (which is what the Lakers will want to pay anyone they sign (Bell, blake, etc)
I just don't want the Lakers to pass on a guy that can help because that guy is asking for 1.5 or 2 mill as opposed to the minimum (which is what the Lakers will want to pay anyone they sign (Bell, blake, etc)
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I'm more concerned with who the Lakers can sign this offseason as a starting pg and for the bench then what those guys are doing. A good offseason for us could easily match what they are building.
Remember when Doc Rivers said that his starting 5 has never lost an playoff series. I think the starting 5 of Fisher/Kobe/SF/Pau/Bynum can say the same. Lakers depth might not be that great but they sure as hell make up for it with the starting unit. Problem is that starting 5 has never been at 100%. I feel comfortable saying that with Bynum at 100% the Lakers are close to unbeatable. The Lakers have got to find a way to limit his minutes during the regular season so that there isn't a repeat of the past 3 seasons. Opposing teams defenses might be able to contain Gasol and let Kobe be a one man show but they can't afford to do it if Kobe has Bynum running around loose.

Just from listening to Bynum's exit interview you hear all positives. I think he could come back an even better player next season. He talks about learning things from Pau such as footwork. He also mentioned coming back next season being more active on both ends of the floor. My favorite thing he mentioned was about working on absorbing contact and going up strong. The Lakers don't need some kind of blockbuster trade to remain the top dogs of the league.
Remember when Doc Rivers said that his starting 5 has never lost an playoff series. I think the starting 5 of Fisher/Kobe/SF/Pau/Bynum can say the same. Lakers depth might not be that great but they sure as hell make up for it with the starting unit. Problem is that starting 5 has never been at 100%. I feel comfortable saying that with Bynum at 100% the Lakers are close to unbeatable. The Lakers have got to find a way to limit his minutes during the regular season so that there isn't a repeat of the past 3 seasons. Opposing teams defenses might be able to contain Gasol and let Kobe be a one man show but they can't afford to do it if Kobe has Bynum running around loose.

Just from listening to Bynum's exit interview you hear all positives. I think he could come back an even better player next season. He talks about learning things from Pau such as footwork. He also mentioned coming back next season being more active on both ends of the floor. My favorite thing he mentioned was about working on absorbing contact and going up strong. The Lakers don't need some kind of blockbuster trade to remain the top dogs of the league.
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What happens in the east doesn't affect us in the least. LeBron and Bosh with all this drama of them being free agents don't impress me one bit. My gut feeling is that LeBron will end up in Chicago with Joe Johnson.
Wade will end up with Amare and Boozer, it's not even a surprise how this is going to end because the writing has been on the walls for weeks.
Think about it.....Danny Ferry just up and quit in Cleveland. Why you ask ? It's simple, he saw Dan Gilbert was going to single handedly ruin the team by even considering hiring Izzo. This was a move Ferry had no say in. So he figured why the hell should he bother, plus this gives a clue on what he though about negotiations were going to go with LeBron.
Then Kerr pulls the same move, but his is much different than Ferry's. He quit because his owner also, Kerr knows Sarver won't pay Amare. Bottom line is both wouldn't let their reps be tarnished because of dumb ass cheap owners.
Both would've been known for losing their teams star players, quite sure they wanted to work as GM's someplace else. No reason for us to be concerned, hell it's no guarantees those teams could even beat us if they reconstruct.
Wade will end up with Amare and Boozer, it's not even a surprise how this is going to end because the writing has been on the walls for weeks.
Think about it.....Danny Ferry just up and quit in Cleveland. Why you ask ? It's simple, he saw Dan Gilbert was going to single handedly ruin the team by even considering hiring Izzo. This was a move Ferry had no say in. So he figured why the hell should he bother, plus this gives a clue on what he though about negotiations were going to go with LeBron.
Then Kerr pulls the same move, but his is much different than Ferry's. He quit because his owner also, Kerr knows Sarver won't pay Amare. Bottom line is both wouldn't let their reps be tarnished because of dumb ass cheap owners.
Both would've been known for losing their teams star players, quite sure they wanted to work as GM's someplace else. No reason for us to be concerned, hell it's no guarantees those teams could even beat us if they reconstruct.
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3 on 1 team would bring my level of concern high.
2 and we can take them down with our level of talent.
2 and we can take them down with our level of talent.
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I'm not as worried about free agency as I am about up and coming teams.
Oklahoma City will be another year better, same as portland. can you imagine if they drafter mayo instead of Oden? also Coach Karl will be back heading Denver with Billups ready to get back into the conference finals.
3peat will be WAY harder than our the 2000-2002 one...
Oklahoma City will be another year better, same as portland. can you imagine if they drafter mayo instead of Oden? also Coach Karl will be back heading Denver with Billups ready to get back into the conference finals.
3peat will be WAY harder than our the 2000-2002 one...
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As long as we make a couple of under the radar yet key moves, I still don't think anyone can handle us Big Game.
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I hope we dont dow like the Summer of 2002.
When we won the championship(we had to go OT game 7 against Kins to win it, ohh yeh then 4-0 Nets). But in the summer we did nothing.
I want a litle stronger team. Get some good old players that want to win(Bell) and some young legs out there(Blake, Gomes) and we will be fine.
But if we let Mbenga,Powell, Brown and Farmar go and have two rookies and signing Fisher be our job we will be in trouble.
When we won the championship(we had to go OT game 7 against Kins to win it, ohh yeh then 4-0 Nets). But in the summer we did nothing.
I want a litle stronger team. Get some good old players that want to win(Bell) and some young legs out there(Blake, Gomes) and we will be fine.
But if we let Mbenga,Powell, Brown and Farmar go and have two rookies and signing Fisher be our job we will be in trouble.
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Lebron is a great player and will be a HOF player. If you are a basketball fan you love to watch him(not against the Lakers). I dont hope he does well because he is one of the players that can let his team win against the Lakers. But a great great player.
But when it is all one the line he dose not always come through
I will start 2007-2008 when he had a team to win it all.
In 2006-2007 he went to the finals but with not a strong team, and he did not have a good finals series he did not have any help out there.
But it is not like he is making every shoot out there
Cleveland vs Boston 2008
Game 1 2-18 Fg L Bad game
Game 2 6-24 Fg L Bad game
Game 3 5-16 FG W Solid
Game 4 7-20 Fg W solid
Game 5 12-25 Fg L good game
Game 6 9-23 FG W good game
Game 7 14-29 FG L Great game from him but they are out.
Orlando vs Cleveland 2009 Most people talk about Cleveland wining(they were 8-0 in playoffs and 66 wins regurlar season).
Game 1 20-30 Fg L He was great
Game 2 12-23 FG W Wining shoot great game
Game 3 11-28 Fg L great game
Game 4 13-29 FG L Great game
Game 5 11-24 FG W Great game
Game 6 8-20 Fg L Bad game
Great series but not good that he did not have a great game in game 6.
Boston vs Cleveland 2010 Most people talk about Cleveland wining(they won Bulls 4-1 and won 61 W in the regular seasons).
Game 1 12-24 Fg W Great game
Game 2 7-15 FG L Bad game
Game 3 14-22 Fg W Great game
Game 4 7-18 Fg L solid game
Game 5 3-14 Fg L Bad game
Game 6 8-21 Fg L Solid game
Okey you can put up bad shooting numbers for Jordan, Kobe, Bird, Magic and Wade and every great player. But he has been twice on a team that most people were talking about wining it all and once on a team that could have won it all(2007-8).
p.s when i sayd Great,Good,Solid or Bad game i was not just talking about FG%.
But when it is all one the line he dose not always come through
I will start 2007-2008 when he had a team to win it all.
In 2006-2007 he went to the finals but with not a strong team, and he did not have a good finals series he did not have any help out there.
But it is not like he is making every shoot out there
Cleveland vs Boston 2008
Game 1 2-18 Fg L Bad game
Game 2 6-24 Fg L Bad game
Game 3 5-16 FG W Solid
Game 4 7-20 Fg W solid
Game 5 12-25 Fg L good game
Game 6 9-23 FG W good game
Game 7 14-29 FG L Great game from him but they are out.
Orlando vs Cleveland 2009 Most people talk about Cleveland wining(they were 8-0 in playoffs and 66 wins regurlar season).
Game 1 20-30 Fg L He was great
Game 2 12-23 FG W Wining shoot great game
Game 3 11-28 Fg L great game
Game 4 13-29 FG L Great game
Game 5 11-24 FG W Great game
Game 6 8-20 Fg L Bad game
Great series but not good that he did not have a great game in game 6.
Boston vs Cleveland 2010 Most people talk about Cleveland wining(they won Bulls 4-1 and won 61 W in the regular seasons).
Game 1 12-24 Fg W Great game
Game 2 7-15 FG L Bad game
Game 3 14-22 Fg W Great game
Game 4 7-18 Fg L solid game
Game 5 3-14 Fg L Bad game
Game 6 8-21 Fg L Solid game
Okey you can put up bad shooting numbers for Jordan, Kobe, Bird, Magic and Wade and every great player. But he has been twice on a team that most people were talking about wining it all and once on a team that could have won it all(2007-8).
p.s when i sayd Great,Good,Solid or Bad game i was not just talking about FG%.
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Low right now...
Systems win championships... It takes more than a season for a system to establish itself. And no matter where those guys go, if three show up together, the system is going to have to work itself out over time. They'll potentially make a splash but I don't think they'd be a championship team the first season... Which lets us see what they have and adjust our lineup to counter it.
To me, the most imposing likely 3some is the Rose/Lebron/Bosh... And I actually think we match up well with that... Gasol>Bosh, Kobe>>Rose, LeBron>>>>Odom or Artest... But we also have Bynum and other pieces to go with our team and they'll still have to do something for a bench.
The Bulls have the most potential of the 'Multiple Max FA' teams because they have some pieces already in place around them. But as big a market as Chicago is, they just aren't as likely to carry the contracts we do... They didn't want to when MJ was there and I don't think a whole lot has changed... If the Cap goes away, things might change but that helps us more than them anyway.
I still think NY might be the ultimate location for LeBron... And he'll likely go there by himself out of the Max guys... That actually might be a scarier team than Chi or Mia because they have an established system (albeit not one known for D) and some good pieces around him as well as a Market/FO that could carry a heavy Salary load like us.
Miami pretty much has to build a complete team around LeBron, Wade, and Bosh... They may be formidable eventually, but it'll take a while for that to work itself out... By the time they're legit contenders/favorites, we will have had our shot at a 3rd and 4th chip, Phil will have retired and we'll probably be in a mini-rebuilding mode ourselves, with an eye to Kobe's eventual successor.
This all changes if someone like Dirk decides to throw his hat in the ring with Wade and LeBron, though...
Systems win championships... It takes more than a season for a system to establish itself. And no matter where those guys go, if three show up together, the system is going to have to work itself out over time. They'll potentially make a splash but I don't think they'd be a championship team the first season... Which lets us see what they have and adjust our lineup to counter it.
To me, the most imposing likely 3some is the Rose/Lebron/Bosh... And I actually think we match up well with that... Gasol>Bosh, Kobe>>Rose, LeBron>>>>Odom or Artest... But we also have Bynum and other pieces to go with our team and they'll still have to do something for a bench.
The Bulls have the most potential of the 'Multiple Max FA' teams because they have some pieces already in place around them. But as big a market as Chicago is, they just aren't as likely to carry the contracts we do... They didn't want to when MJ was there and I don't think a whole lot has changed... If the Cap goes away, things might change but that helps us more than them anyway.
I still think NY might be the ultimate location for LeBron... And he'll likely go there by himself out of the Max guys... That actually might be a scarier team than Chi or Mia because they have an established system (albeit not one known for D) and some good pieces around him as well as a Market/FO that could carry a heavy Salary load like us.
Miami pretty much has to build a complete team around LeBron, Wade, and Bosh... They may be formidable eventually, but it'll take a while for that to work itself out... By the time they're legit contenders/favorites, we will have had our shot at a 3rd and 4th chip, Phil will have retired and we'll probably be in a mini-rebuilding mode ourselves, with an eye to Kobe's eventual successor.
This all changes if someone like Dirk decides to throw his hat in the ring with Wade and LeBron, though...
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Like everyone else, I'm really not worried. LBJ is going to do what he wants to do, I still don't think Bosh is a max player, Boozer isn't going to put us out of the Playoffs, Amare doesn't play defense, Johnson is going to get paid a lot more than he's worth, Wade isn't going anywhere....
Chicago may make a powerhouse, but with all the money they throw at two max free agents, their bench may be thin. Granted, a foursome of Noah, Rose, James and Bosh could give us problems if we don't make a few upgrades...
Chicago may make a powerhouse, but with all the money they throw at two max free agents, their bench may be thin. Granted, a foursome of Noah, Rose, James and Bosh could give us problems if we don't make a few upgrades...
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What if he becomes our Staples Center Arena-Mate?
KB24 and LBJ in the same building nightly?
Loyal Laker fans will spend money to see LBJ and have a good time. Like a high-end mistress.
KB24 and LBJ in the same building nightly?
Loyal Laker fans will spend money to see LBJ and have a good time. Like a high-end mistress.
I'll smack you in the mouth.
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Bulls have been trying to dump Deng
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My level of concern is slim to none. I take stock into teams playing together for a number of years. Playing as a cohesive unit to achieve one goal. (Granted, the Celtics was able to put together a team in one year but give me a break). Lakers will actually be better next year assuming PJ stays. Kobe will be better, Gasol will improve again, Bynum will improve, and Artest will improve. People gotta understand that the lakers were able to do the things they did with one true constant....that Gasol. Kobe is Kobe, and he will always do his thug thizzle, but some nights his finger or knee may bother him and some nights he feels good. I assume he will be fully healthy next year. If the lakers can continue to grow, I see know reason to fear ANYONE. Also if the lakers are serious about getting Bell....lol can there be a more perfect fit. He can shoot the 3 and defend. Dont listen to the GB anyone who have seen this guy play know he is a legit bench player. Anyone that has the balls to close line Kobe is more than welcome on this team imo. Also, Kobe has admitted to respecting Bell after PJ gave him the book The Art Of War....After that, Kobe has respected Bell ever since. Again, PJ's teams get better as they go on...not worst. Ill raise my level of concern when someone gets two 7 footers better than ours....to play along side of a SG better than Kobe Bryant and to defend better than our SF named Ron "Crazy" Artest.

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slim to none for season 2010/11
big concern come 2011/12, when teams have fully gelled and are adding depth.
big concern come 2011/12, when teams have fully gelled and are adding depth.

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I'm not worried at all. I just want a point guard and Mike Miller. I
SF:Artest/Miller/Walton
PF:Gasol/Odom/Powell
C:Bynum/Mbenga
SG:Bryant/Vujacic/Brown
PG:Fisher/????/
I would like to see these players too:
McGrady
Iverson
Fernandez
Foye
SF:Artest/Miller/Walton
PF:Gasol/Odom/Powell
C:Bynum/Mbenga
SG:Bryant/Vujacic/Brown
PG:Fisher/????/
I would like to see these players too:
McGrady
Iverson
Fernandez
Foye
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