Lakers vs. Heat 2K10 Analysis Post Yours!

[H00PDREAMS]

LAKERS vs. HEAT 2K10 What if?
Just for fun... Post your own.


So yesterday I was on the Xbox 360 goofing around and finally broke down and downloaded an updated roster as of 8/8/10. Sure it was a user created roster but everyone was there for the Lakers and the Heat. So I played Lakers at Heat. It wasn’t a pure sim as I did play as the Lakers. But mostly everything was fair no real advantage. I played with standard 2k10 sliders. No tweaks other than the roster. Here are some things that I noticed in the game that will most likely reflect back in real life.
Wade – Dude is already killer in real life and is just as deadly in the game. Now with Lebron and Bosh in tow, Wade is now free to run the perimeter on the offense. At first I put Derek Fisher on him and well let’s say it wasn’t pretty. I did not want to put Kobe on him as I thought Kobe would get tired and or foul Wade too much. Fisher played exactly like the Fisher we know and love. He sucked it guarding Wade. Once I put Kobe on him in the 4th that shut Wade down completely. Wade finished 26pts 4ast 8rbs
Chalmers – First of all let’s just be real about it, Chalmers is no Rondo back when the big 3 first got together in Boston. Chalmers is solid and will be just that when LeBron, Bosh, and Miller is in the mix. He did exactly what I expect him to do in real life. If you left him open to double Wade or LeBron you were basically playing with fire. Chalmers on 2k10 will lock it in from deep and keep you honest. Kobe guarded Chalmers at first in the game then I switched with Fisher and later Barnes. Barnes shut Chalmers up real good. Chalmers end with 15pts 12 assists for the night. My plan was to let Chalmers shoot it all game long.
Bosh – Okay maybe he isn’t the stud on a level with Pau but he is no scrub and can carry a team if you let him. I played Bosh straight up. No double teams ever. Pau was on him all night at least until the CPU put in James as PF for a few minutes. Bosh finished the game with about 10pts 8rbs. Bosh could not handle Pau in the post. I basically had my way in the paint. Bosh was a non-factor on defense in the post with Pau or Bynum. I would imagine it will be exactly the same in real life. Big Z made it crowded in the paint but could get down helping Bosh quickly enough. One thing that must be said, Bosh is a Zone defense killer. He is too quick in the post, he got behind the defensive player guarding the paint every time.
LeBron – Will he average a triple double next season? I was doubtful until I played this game, James ended the game with 20pts 6ast 6rbs. I had Artest on him the whole game. For about 2 or 3 plays I noticed Lebron played the PG during a few plays I thought it was neat how 2k AI picked up on this. Looking back I should have rotated Barnes and Artest on LBJ. Most of his scores were rebounds off miss 3pt attempts I made. He would do as in real life situations, sprint for the opposite side of the court for an uncontested dunk. He never once scored in a set play. LBJ only scored on put backs, transition, and the foul line. I think both James and Artest ended the game with 4 or 5 fouls. The Zone killed James’ game but somehow made Bosh unstoppable. I think we may see the same type of scoring from James in real life. You will probably never see him stand at the top of the key and drive it down any opponent’s throat anymore. Lebron and Bosh did not play as many minutes as Wade. Wade was on the floor for 65 percent of the game. Kobe only played 30-35 minutes. Kobe never guarded James. I had double in the paint and James had little or no success in outside shooting against Artest or Odom. He was very good at passing out when doubled in the paint to open shooters, which is where he gained his 6 assists.
Miller – This guy can light it up in real life and 2k10 does his game justice. He shot an epic 80 percent from outside. He is a down right dam good zone buster. Miller and Bosh completely make the zone irrelevant in 2k10. So imagine anyone crazy enough to try to run the zone in 2k10 against them is in for a world of hurt. Miller is going to make it rain all game long. I played Miller tight to no avail. Can you imagine what he is going to shoot in real life!? When James, Wade and Big Z were on the bench, Miller, Bosh, Chalmers, Arroyo, and Haslem took over. There is no way you can leave Miller for anything. NOTHING!

Kobe – With the new additions of legit shooters it is pretty well known that Kobe assist numbers could skyrocket. 2k10 was able to reflect this. Kobe ended the game with 26pts 8 assist and 4 rebounds. Wade guarded Kobe mostly and I was mildly intimidated by the Heats defense. Anyone other than Kobe or Pau in the paint was a tossup. Kobe scored easily against Chalmers and LBJ as well. LBJ picked up several fouls when picking up Kobe on switches and mismatches. I would guess that LBJ will not let this happen as he will stay as far away as possible from Kobe to prevent such fouls being called against him.
Barnes – I imagined that Barnes once on the floor with Kobe in real life could thrive. On 2k10 he does. Barnes gave LBJ fits! Shut Chalmers down in the 4th and scored a quick 11 points and 5 Assists 2 steals. 1 of the steals was a rip from Wade while Wade stood at the top of the key!!! I was guarding with Bynum down low as I always do…
FINAL
HEAT 101 LAKERS 94

Last Thoughts: I am going to play again with more realistic sliders and probably and another updated roster. This current roster has Kobe ranked at 94 and LeBron 97. I don’t know how you all feel about that? Next time I expect to see more fouls and slower pace to the game. The Heat may run more plays for LBJ with the update sliders. Odom, Blake, and Barnes minutes were not realistic enough for me they should have had more playing time and less time for Fisher. Kobe was on the bench until 4 minutes left in the 4th?!!! Zone will be turned off. Little or no fouls called against Pau down low is unacceptable so I ‘m sure with the new sliders this will be fixed.
This is really just for fun and analysis of SIMed Heat vs. Lakers match. I hope someone can post 2 k 10 analyses Heat vs. Celtics, Heat vs. Magic and other Heat versus.

[LakerZombie]

Ahhh the sign of a true NBA/Laker junkie lol

I've done this sim many times now, helps keep the NBA fresh in my blood for another two or so months before preseason starts lol and i get my real fix.

While i didnt analyze to the extent that you did, the handful of games ive played ive noticed similar matchup results. Minus Lebron however. Wade was almost always the number 1 scorer followed by Bosh who CAN get his in the paint.

We (Lakers) can play them straight up and they match up REALLY well. But where i found that we had the advantge was in paint. Our length again proved too much for them, even for Wade.

So all in all....for the majority of the games the Miami cHeat were basically the Suns for 3 quarters until the 4th came around their shots were no longer falling.

I have lost a couple games to them however when i was lazy on defense. (where miller destroyed me for gambling)

So ya its a sim and just a game but i can see how if we let up on this team in real life...we could find ourselves in a hole in the blink of an eye.

But overall our experience in crunch time and our length will be our greatest strengths IMO

[H00PDREAMS]

Thanks for the input LakerZombie. I was really trying to hold off until later on this summer to star playing any team against the new look Heat.

Yeah I was pretty amazed also that Wade clearly became or remained the go to guy for the Heat even though LeBron is on the court. Bosh was truly the 2nd option if he couldn't clear a shot the ball usually found its way to Wade and NOT LBJ.

I didn't add anything about Pau because he is pretty much identical to what happens in real life. He gets the same points rebounds and has the same exact tendencies. Bynum not so much on 2K10. However together they were stuffing any guards in the paint. The paint was an absolute no fly zone! No one scored on Bynum and Pau on post moves in the paint. The tandem had several blocks between them. Unfortunately the 2k AI wised up and subbed in Miller at SG/SF and boom blew the game wide open.

I wish there was away to count for experience in the crunch. Maybe boost the the offensive and defensive clutch?

[stunnar0b]

Yeah i was going to hold off too, but forget Christmas its going down today. I'll check back in later to leave some in-game input....

[LakerZombie]

No prob Hoopdreams

One thing i forgot to mention though....either i havent paid him much attention in real life or my game has him boosted for whatever reason. But Arroyo COULD NOT MISS during most of my sim games. Whether he starts or comes off the bench both Fish and Blake have their work cut out for them.

[Flipdog69xxx]

haha I dusted off my 2k10 (ps3) ever since "the decision" and have been keeping up with the trades/transactions as much as I could. Either I need to learn Blake's release point or blazer fans were right about his shooting lol. Also tried out the heat, and DAAAAMMMN wade and lebron get to the cup as if no one's even there. It's almost too easy how I can crossover and weave through the D with those guys and even oop it occasionally to bosh. Also need to figure out mike miller's release point. Ratliff can still be serviceable in the game, and I never noticed Barne's shooting style until now haha.

[ShowtimeFan]

I did not consult any Tea Leaves, Ouija Borads, X-Boxes, Nostradomas, but my Magic 8-Ball says the chances for the Lakers beating the Heat are GOOD!

[LApwnd]

can you guys sim the WHOLE season and see if Mia does indeed win it all? lol

[TylersLakers]

Can you do this on PS3? Get the roster updates as of recently?

[Slava]

SMH ..and the crazy fetish for the Miami Heat returns.

[DEEP3CL]

I haven't done it yet, but when I do with the skills I possess on 2K10 I'm sure I'll obliterate them badly.

[Wavy Q]

well i just did a season sim with updated rosters... and i think im going to do it again, no team on the west won 50 games, and the warriors had the #1 seed... the playoffs were kind of realistic, they had the magic eliminating the heat in the ECF in 5 games

[TylersLakers]

Alright.. So figured out how to do it on PS3.

I was the Lakers and I had the lead the entire first quarter. Second quarter, the Heat outscored me and LeBron got it going. Towards the end of the third, I tied the game up thanks to some big time play from Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. With Kobe on the bench to start the fourth, my reserves got jumped on. Mike Miller rained down trey balls like it was Gainesville. The starters (with Odom) came back in and had a furious fourth quarter charge. Unfortunately, Wade hit a free throw to extend the lead to 4 points with 5 seconds remaining and that iced it.

Heat- 122
Lakers- 118

L. James- 28 points, 8 assists, 1 steal
C. Bosh- 24 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists
D. Wade- 19 points, 7 assists
Z. Ilgauskas- 16 points, 6 rebounds, 3 blocks

P. Gasol- 35 points, 9 rebounds, 6 assists, 1 block
K. Bryant- 34 points, 7 assists, 1 steal
A. Bynum- 24 points, 8 rebounds, 1 block
L. Odom- 8 points, 4 rebounds, 4 assists

[dockingsched]

summary of the 20 or so games i've played with updates rosters since it went down:

wade is unstoppable, and its really hard to double him.

pau is an overwhelming force.

anthony's size gives bynum trouble, but bynum gets 4-5 blocks a game from being able to leave him.

lebron takes a backseat to wade, and bosh is inconsistent.

blake > fisher

[H00PDREAMS]

dcash - You're dead on about Wade he still gets the most shots. LBJ takes the back seat. I wonder will this be okay with Nike if this happens in the real world HAHAHA!

TylersLakers - The secret to slowing down LBJ on 2k10 is zone yeah I know thats gaye right but it slows him up but opens the game up for Bosh. I tried doubling Wade and LBJ when in the paint. However the AI figured this out with Wade and not so much with LBJ. So Wade continued to slash inside or run the perimeter to get open and knock down mid range. Fisher was useless against Wade and tired to easily so I eventually had to put Kobe on him which slowed Wade down but also ran Kobe down where he sat the bench till late.

J-far - SHUSH! Its the summer mang chill out.

ShowtimeFan - RIGHT! But its kinda cool to see what statistical tendencies playout in realtime. Sure you can download old Raptors, Cavs, and Heat games. But its not the same cos you have the players on the same team with the correct role players around them.

Flipdog69xxx - "DAAAAMMMN wade and lebron get to the cup as if no one's even there." WORD! When they got it running in the open court there was no stopping them good lord they would just explode out the gates! The Lakers have to play their pace and slow the game down feed Pau and Bynum. Slowing down the game takes LBJ out of the game as it seems there are no real set plays that a ran with LBJ. I mean really when he was with the CAVS were there ever legit plays ran for him?! Also slowing the game down forces Bosh to battle Pau on the box. This also helps Fish and Blake guard Wade or Arroyo more successfully.

[Slava]

Its not about chilling out my man, this thread started before, went well for 3 pages and then all **** broke loose. I closed it, we updated the board rules and here we go back to square 1. I didn't lock this because you obviously put a lot of effort into it but the mods will keep eyes on this one constantly.

[dockingsched]

I haven't done it yet, but when I do with the skills I possess on 2K10 I'm sure I'll obliterate them badly.

hahaha, DEEP with the gaming skills!

[H00PDREAMS]

Has anyone ran into some lowly soul on the Xbox Live or PS3 Online that have been Cheezin' out with the heat yet? I dunno but the Lakers new roster could also turn into a Cheeze tool so beware. Shooting is way up for me!

[LApwnd]

Has anyone ran into some lowly soul on the Xbox Live or PS3 Online that have been Cheezin' out with the heat yet? I dunno but the Lakers new roster could also turn into a Cheeze tool so beware. Shooting is way up for me!

I'm not sure what you def. of Cheeze is but I recall playing Atl/Clev in nba2k9 and these guys cheeze like no tomorrow, they just run James or Smith down the other side and just cherry pick, they are unblockable even if you get back.

[dockingsched]

Has anyone ran into some lowly soul on the Xbox Live or PS3 Online that have been Cheezin' out with the heat yet? I dunno but the Lakers new roster could also turn into a Cheeze tool so beware. Shooting is way up for me!

online you can only play with official rosters, and those stopped being updated before the season ended.