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I am curious about how Laker fan's viewed artest's shot selection heading into the playoffs last year. Everyone knows about his brain farts in the postseason but was his shot selection a major source of concern heading into the playoffs?

the reason I ask is that it seems like he made the decision to cut back on his long 2s in favor of 3s which seems like a smart move. His effective fg % on jumpers was 47% last year which i believe is very good.

http://www.82games.com/0910/09LAL8.HTM

Considering guys like Bibby and Ray Allen are in the 50-51% area i don't know how much more people can expect.

However as a Hawks fan i didn't watch the Lakers much in the regular season so i don't really know what he was doing or how the fans viewed him.

His shot selection was fine.

His shot wasn't. He was getting a ton of wide open looks and just not knocking them down, probably because he's used to making bizarre fading 30-footers. I was hoping he'd work with Hodges in the off-season because he's going to continue getting great looks, and we'd be practically unbeatable if he's hitting at better than 40% from downtown. That was a major problem for us last year and part of the reason our spacing was so poor.

Anyone remember that 3-pointer he took against the Suns in Game 5? He did redeem himself though, lol.

Yea like Semi said his shot selection was not a problem. If he gets the boy late in the shot clock and throws up a weird shot then its better than a 24 second violation because our bigs do one hell of a job on the offensive glass. The looks he was getting were amazing. It reminds you how much spacing Kobe, Pau, and Lamar create for the team.

I'm just glad we don't have Farmar anymore. If there was someone whose shot selection I would question last season, it would be him (and Brown, but he's improved that).

Artest's shot selection was fine last year. It is this year where his shot selections are reverting to his wild ways. He probably attempted the most off-balanced jumpers these past three games than he did the entirety of last season. I think he will be fine, and if he's not, the team is still good enough to soak up the damage.

microfib4thewin wrote:Artest's shot selection was fine last year. It is this year where his shot selections are reverting to his wild ways. He probably attempted the most off-balanced jumpers these past three games than he did the entirety of last season. I think he will be fine, and if he's not, the team is still good enough to soak up the damage.

LOL yeah i noticed that he got off to a rough start this year.

The only problem with Artest is that he sometimes takes these weird one dribble fade away three pointers that rarely goes in. I think if he gets rid of that habit, he should be fine.

He was 7-11 tonight? Whoaaaa. He made a few catch and shoot 3s from Kobe's passes tonight that made me damn happy... but he also sometimes felt like dribbling then fading sideways for a long 2 (you know, his trademark **** shot) that always clanked off the rim. I'm surprised and GLAD that he shot this well.

I don't mind Artest's shot selection, especially this year now that he has lost some of that upper body bulk and doesn't look like a gorilla running around the court.

tontoz wrote:Everyone knows about his brain farts in the postseason but was his shot selection a major source of concern heading into the playoffs?

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Kalidogg24 wrote:

tontoz wrote:Everyone knows about his brain farts in the postseason but was his shot selection a major source of concern heading into the playoffs?

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Lol... everyone knows they hated Ron shooting any shot he took up until that one. Hell, Phil was telling him not to shoot

semi-sentient wrote:His shot selection was fine.

His shot wasn't. He was getting a ton of wide open looks and just not knocking them down, probably because he's used to making bizarre fading 30-footers. I was hoping he'd work with Hodges in the off-season because he's going to continue getting great looks, and we'd be practically unbeatable if he's hitting at better than 40% from downtown. That was a major problem for us last year and part of the reason our spacing was so poor.

Eh, if you continually brick at epic proportions, I don't see how you can justify the misses as ok "because they were open." Eventually other teams started leaving him open on purpose, and he burned us even harder.

Nobody who shoots 39% form the floor with a TS% of 48 can be considered to have "good" shot selection, IMO. His shot selection has pretty much been bad everywhere (to varying degrees), it's just a question of how much he's making up for it in other areas (volume scoring, defense, etc).

I've come to accept Ron as the weak link in our offense, though, so it doesn't bother me as much.

He shot 41% from the floor last year and 36 from 3.


He shot 40% from three (or >39) a few times in his career and is a career 42 and 35 shooter.

G=K wrote:He shot 41% from the floor last year and 36 from 3.


He shot 40% from three (or >39) a few times in his career and is a career 42 and 35 shooter.

We were talking playoff percentages. And even his RS shooting numbers were padded by his hot start.

Artest's shot selection becomes a problem whenever someone gets in his head or he feels he has something to prove. Otherwise, it's not an issue.

he shouldn't shoot on the move, he his HORRIBLE at it

D Nice wrote:

semi-sentient wrote:His shot selection was fine.

His shot wasn't. He was getting a ton of wide open looks and just not knocking them down, probably because he's used to making bizarre fading 30-footers. I was hoping he'd work with Hodges in the off-season because he's going to continue getting great looks, and we'd be practically unbeatable if he's hitting at better than 40% from downtown. That was a major problem for us last year and part of the reason our spacing was so poor.

Eh, if you continually brick at epic proportions, I don't see how you can justify the misses as ok "because they were open." Eventually other teams started leaving him open on purpose, and he burned us even harder.

Nobody who shoots 39% form the floor with a TS% of 48 can be considered to have "good" shot selection, IMO. His shot selection has pretty much been bad everywhere (to varying degrees), it's just a question of how much he's making up for it in other areas (volume scoring, defense, etc).

I've come to accept Ron as the weak link in our offense, though, so it doesn't bother me as much.

I guess you are talking about the playoffs. I think it is commonly accepted that his shot selection was less than stellar in the playoffs (especially given his slump) but I was asking specifically about the regular season.

There were people on a Hawks board comparing Artest's shot selection last year with the Lakers to Josh Smith, which i thought was a bad comparison. They kept citing the playoffs and it was my contention that just because he took some ill advised shots in the playoffs doesn't mean he had bad shot selection all year long.

Artest did shoot 37% from 3s at one point in the season. He did shoot worse toward the end of last RS, but that had more to do with the fact that the offense was fubared with an injured Kobe and a Pau that was playing terrible.

Love it when Ron said KOBE PASSED ME THE BALL...