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Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:05 pm
by GoLakers2011

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Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Remember when some folks thought Miami might break the NBA record for wins? Well, to paraphrase LeBron James, the "72-win talk" has taken its talents to Venice Beach.

Yes, out on the Other Coast, where an NBA team has actually done something meaningful to warrant such optimism, the two-time defending champion Lakers will certainly generate some single-season record discussion, if they haven't already.

The Lakers are stacked and loaded and winning fairly easily here in the early going. And just wait until Kobe Bryant starts warming up, not to mention Andrew Bynum.
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Not only did they do a number on the NBA the last two years, but all the key faces are back, and some newcomers are giving the Lakers a dynamic and dynastic look. We won't hand them the trophy right now, not in November, because weird things can happen in the postseason. But in terms of the regular season, who says they can't win that title? And going away at that?

Well, you'd suspect the only people who can stop the Lakers from erasing the Bulls from the books are the Lakers. Maybe it's not such a priority for them, although we'd love to see them break the 70-win mark with a week left in the season and then run the topic by them again.

Phil Jackson, who led the Bulls to the record, said he can't imagine doing it again with a different team. Jackson was actually pretty blunt: "It's not going to happen."
It's not that Jackson doesn't believe the Lakers are capable of that. He just doesn't think the circumstances will favor it, citing travel from the West Coast, the tough schedule, and the potential for injuries.

"Everything has to break perfect for that to happen," Jackson said.
Well let's see: Travel from the West Coast? It's not so bad. It's not like the Lakers are constantly criss-crossing the country. And besides, life in the air must be rough when you're being whisked around by a private jet with all the first-class comforts. Sorry, Phil, not buying that excuse.

The tough schedule? Actually, the Western Conference is weaker than it has been in recent years. The Lakers do play the Timberwolves, Clippers, Rockets, Kings and Warriors a fair number of times, don't they?
Injuries? Well, yes, that's always an issue. Except the Lakers are dealing with injuries right now -- Bynum's -- and still going strong. Anything short of Bryant or Pau Gasol on crutches won't hamper the Lakers too much.

Jackson added the Lakers don't have the same dogged defense as the '95-96 Bulls, and added -- get this -- that Miami seems most equipped to get the record.
"If they stay together, they have a good chance," Jackson said. "They're a very talented team."
Evidently, Jackson means Miami may eventually get the record in a year or three. It may not be this season, considering the Heat have lost four of their first nine games.

What the record really comes down to, besides talent, is the motivation to do it. Erasing the Bulls will take a collective effort from ownership, management, coaches and players. Everyone must be on the same page with regard to the potential for injury, and also the burnout that can result from playing the starters deep in games, especially in April when the conference title may be long since wrapped up.

On that Bulls team, Jackson wasn't particularly keen on the record, nor was Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf. But Michael Jordan never met a challenge he didn't want to conquer, and so when Jordan, the ultimate competitor, put the record in his sights, the rest of the Bulls bought in.

So if Kobe wants the record, the Lakers will want the record.
Thursday, before the Lakers faced the Nuggets, Kobe didn't want any part of the discussion, telling reporters in jest: "Whatever Phil says."
Given the fragility of Bynum, who never seems to finish the postseason in one healthy piece, and the fact Kobe has had three knee procedures, the understandable goal of the Lakers is to keep their main folks fresh and frisky. If a pursuit of the record means putting any of them at risk, it's not worth it.

If there's a team that should go for the record, it's the one in Miami, becuase even if the Heat come up just short, they'd at least have a big say in who wins the conference title. If that happens, it means that LeBron, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh finally will have figured out how to play in harmony.


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Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:24 pm
by Wavy Q
thats nice and all, but im much more concerned with the post season. Homecourt advantage is a + though.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:32 am
by dznutzz
most of the games played in the early part of the season are home games.... the real test is on the road.

besides.. it's more important to finish strong than to limp to the finish line hurt... it's all about the rings..

anybody read phil's comment and immediately thought he wanted to couch the heat?

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:30 am
by GodkimNoah
Fast start.....then they'll put their feet on the breaks, probably low 60's.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:39 am
by crazyeights
dznutzz wrote:anybody read phil's comment and immediately thought he wanted to couch the heat?


No.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:48 am
by iamworthy
It annoys me that Phil is quick to shoot the 70 win thing down. It just doesnt sound right that your coach puts a limit on your winning. Even if he doesnt believe it he should say something like, we play everygame to win and with that we will see what happens as the season goes on. Also, Phil travel excuse is pretty lame considering that the players are flying pimp status and probably sitting in reclining chairs that are softer than my bed.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:15 am
by DEEP3CL
Screw 72,71 or70, just finish ahead of the rest in the league with what ever number it takes. Just continue to get them rings.

@Big Game.......Hell yeah it's plush pimp status ! Even if the bird was on the ground we could have a hell'va party on that thing ! Phil is wimp'in on us.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 2:19 am
by The Skyhook
Some might say its just Phil trying to fire these guys up but I'm not really sure what his intentions are. I do know that this team is far from perfect mainly on the defensive side and that needs to improve.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:47 am
by laduane1
65 wins would be perfect. Why burn out the players just to get to some number that only counts in the stat geeks minds. Home court is very important, but if we do not get it. Then we just got to win that one extra on there home.

Kevin Love...31 points and 31 rebounds in the same game. Wow. Would love to have him on the Lakers. Guess Walton and Sasha would not get it done. I can dream of him on the Lakers. 24 and 23 vs. the Lakers the other night.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:25 am
by aroba
No way.
PJ was right. Those 70 wins Chicago Bulls were better team (the had the best combo defense-attack i've ever seen), and also chicago being in the middle of the USA helps on not wearing down along the season.
Bulls also had a great airplane with special extrabig seats and many commodities.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 3:49 pm
by SoundGarden
aroba wrote:No way.
PJ was right. Those 70 wins Chicago Bulls were better team (the had the best combo defense-attack i've ever seen), and also chicago being in the middle of the USA helps on not wearing down along the season.
Bulls also had a great airplane with special extrabig seats and many commodities.


i lold hard :lol:

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 4:01 pm
by Pablo Escobar
70 or 50 wins who cares we got one thing we're focused on and that's that 3peat

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 5:32 pm
by crazy8ights
Whatever it takes to get HCA and this is a classic mind mess up Phil is doing :lol:

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:43 pm
by Gek
I WANT 81 WINS AND I WANT THEM NOW!!!!

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:45 pm
by Anklebreaker702
DEEP3CL wrote:Screw 72,71 or70, just finish ahead of the rest in the league with what ever number it takes. Just continue to get them rings.

@Big Game.......Hell yeah it's plush pimp status ! Even if the bird was on the ground we could have a hell'va party on that thing ! Phil is wimp'in on us.

That's the mentality of this team too. They're about rings. If they so happened to get the record it would be haphazardly cause they never focus on it

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:16 pm
by stunnar0b
whats the status on andrew bynum? phil said he was going to start practicing with the team at the end of the week, that was like two weeks ago. all these mins are taking a toll on gasol and with the recent play of denver it just made things that much easier on opposing teams to slow down gasofty.

as far as topic i dont think these lakers have it in them to go for the record nor should they try.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:54 pm
by Sedale Threatt
Amen. Health and homecourt are the only things that matter.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:51 pm
by So Gutta
With a healthy Andrew Bynum, the Lakers are gonna be crazy hard to beat.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:45 am
by iamworthy
So Gutta wrote:With a healthy Andrew Bynum, the Lakers are gonna be crazy hard to beat.


Especially in a 7 games series.

Re: Even if they deny it, Lakers have best shot at 70 wins

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:20 am
by doozyj
DEEP3CL wrote:Screw 72,71 or70, just finish ahead of the rest in the league with what ever number it takes. Just continue to get them rings.

@Big Game.......Hell yeah it's plush pimp status ! Even if the bird was on the ground we could have a hell'va party on that thing ! Phil is wimp'in on us.


You are correct sir, screw the record we want a pretty gold and purple banner that says 2010-2011 World Champions!