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inquisitive wrote:What Charles should've added also that Gasol is now the Laker's best player.

inquisitive wrote:What Charles should've added also that Gasol is now the Laker's best player.

Penberthy wrote:That was BY FAR the worst game of the year for Gasol.

but he still managed:
16pts, 14 rebs, 6 assists, 2 blks

Kobe's worst game was: 12pts/1reb/2assts on 27% shooting. you do the math.


gasol always finds a way to help the team, even on his worst nights, cant really say the same for kobe on those 4 for 24 nights.

Jay From LA wrote:durr hurr Gasol the best.

Penberthy wrote:That was BY FAR the worst game of the year for Gasol.

but he still managed:
16pts, 14 rebs, 6 assists, 2 blks

Kobe's worst game was: 12pts/1reb/2assts on 27% shooting. you do the math.


gasol always finds a way to help the team, even on his worst nights, cant really say the same for kobe on those 4 for 24 nights.

MoLakers wrote:

Penberthy wrote:That was BY FAR the worst game of the year for Gasol.

but he still managed:
16pts, 14 rebs, 6 assists, 2 blks

Kobe's worst game was: 12pts/1reb/2assts on 27% shooting. you do the math.


gasol always finds a way to help the team, even on his worst nights, cant really say the same for kobe on those 4 for 24 nights.

u cant compare the stats of a big man and a guard. so emeka okafor helps his team more than kobe cuz he has like a 70% shooting percentage? pau got mauled by darko. mr manna or whatever had the game of his life. sure gasol had great stats on an off night, but bball is just as important defensively if not more than offensively. if kobe were a big man, he would be getting those stats on off nights as well, simply cuz of his drive. and he wouldnt have let darko run all over him. u dont compare bigs and smalls stats.
plus its a team game. if kobes struggling and his teammates step up and do their part, at the end of the game, kobes still taking the last shot. kobe helps the team overall more than anyone, even on bad shooting nights.

with that said, both are great players. awesome players. kobe is the face of the franchise, and if i had to choose between kobe or pau, id choose kobe everytime.

back to the subject... barkley said kobes the 6th best cuz towards the end, he said kareems his 5th, then kobe. its his opinion, and hes freakin hilarious, so i respect it. and he was a great player in his own right.

Penberthy wrote:

MoLakers wrote:

Penberthy wrote:That was BY FAR the worst game of the year for Gasol.

but he still managed:
16pts, 14 rebs, 6 assists, 2 blks

Kobe's worst game was: 12pts/1reb/2assts on 27% shooting. you do the math.


gasol always finds a way to help the team, even on his worst nights, cant really say the same for kobe on those 4 for 24 nights.

u cant compare the stats of a big man and a guard. so emeka okafor helps his team more than kobe cuz he has like a 70% shooting percentage? pau got mauled by darko. mr manna or whatever had the game of his life. sure gasol had great stats on an off night, but bball is just as important defensively if not more than offensively. if kobe were a big man, he would be getting those stats on off nights as well, simply cuz of his drive. and he wouldnt have let darko run all over him. u dont compare bigs and smalls stats.
plus its a team game. if kobes struggling and his teammates step up and do their part, at the end of the game, kobes still taking the last shot. kobe helps the team overall more than anyone, even on bad shooting nights.

with that said, both are great players. awesome players. kobe is the face of the franchise, and if i had to choose between kobe or pau, id choose kobe everytime.

back to the subject... barkley said kobes the 6th best cuz towards the end, he said kareems his 5th, then kobe. its his opinion, and hes freakin hilarious, so i respect it. and he was a great player in his own right.

i agree with your premise, but when was the last time you saw kobe play any D? seriously. I specifically remember at least 2 bench players ON THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES (i dont even know their name) easily dribbling around kobe for a lay up. and that happens practically every game.

I have to argue with your one point where you say that kobe helps his team by continuing to shoot even on a bad night. he is actually hurting his team by continuing to shoot when it is obvious that he is off. a better TEAMmate would recognize that he is off and would start penetrating and dishing and setting his teammates up rather than continuing to jack up offbalanced jumpers while being double teamed.

the most frustrating part about kobes game is that he could easily average 10 dimes per game on this squad, especially considering how ball dominant he is, and that his starting pg is actually a SG, and that he has 2 of the top 5 big men in the nba on his team. however, he chooses not to be a better TEAMmate and instead just keeps on shooting.

its ironic that you bring up the whole basketball is a team sport thing. i think if you ask any non-american outside of kobe's generation they wouldn't even rank him in the top 10 all time. americans have such an individualistic attitude that they see individualistic selfishness as a quality to be admired.

if you were ranking nba players by how much they actually helped their teammates win the game it would go more like:
1. Magic
2. Oscar Robertson
3. MJ/Larry Bird/John Stockton
4. Everyone else

bring the hate.

Penberthy wrote:blah blah blah
bring the hate.

i think if you ask any non-american outside of kobe's generation they wouldn't even rank him in the top 10 all time

if you were ranking nba players by how much they actually helped their teammates win the game it would go more like

bring the hate

SoundGarden wrote:its sucks to be a kobe hater this days i guess,they dont know where to attack