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Post#1 » by Gek » Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:41 am

I see us doing nothing productive with all of our 2nd round picks and here is why:

Since 2000:

2000: Mark Madsen (1)
2002: Chris Jefferies (1 - Traded to Tor)
2003: Brian Cook (1), Luke Walton (2)
2004: Sasha (1), Marcus Douthit (2)
2005: Bynum (1), Ronny (2 - From a NYK via ATL and CHA), Von Wafer
2006: Jordan Farmar (1 - from MIA), Cheikh Samb (Traded to DET)
2007: J Critt (1), Sun Yue (2 - From CHA), Marc Gasol (2)
2008: Joe Crawford (2)
2009: Toney Douglas (1 - Traded to NYK), Patrick Beverly (2 - From CHA to MIA)
2010: Ebanks and D Char (2)



Why was our best draft year when we sucked? Obviously Bynum was there because of us being in the lottery, but even our second round picks that year have turned into servicable players. We should really put more time into drafting. I know we haven't needed it, but someone had to foresee a time in the future when that would hurt us. Look at how much it has helped the Spurs this season.

I look at the Spurs who have picked up Manu (57 - in '99), Scola (55), Blair (37). Then you look at their first round picks (Splitter, George Hill, Beno Udrih, Barbosa, John Salmons, Tony Parker). Why can't we draft? Hell Isiah Thomas could even draft better than us in NYK.
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Post#2 » by larry14r » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:01 am

G=K wrote:I see us doing nothing productive with all of our 2nd round picks and here is why:

Since 2000:

2000: Mark Madsen (1)
2002: Chris Jefferies (1 - Traded to Tor)
2003: Brian Cook (1), Luke Walton (2)
2004: Sasha (1), Marcus Douthit (2)
2005: Bynum (1), Ronny (2 - From a NYK via ATL and CHA), Von Wafer
2006: Jordan Farmar (1 - from MIA), Cheikh Samb (Traded to DET)
2007: J Critt (1), Sun Yue (2 - From CHA)
2008: Joe Crawford (2)
2009: Toney Douglas (1 - Traded to NYK), Patrick Beverly (2 - From CHA to MIA)
2010: Ebanks and D Char (2)



Why was our best draft year when we sucked? Obviously Bynum was there because of us being in the lottery, but even our second round picks that year have turned into servicable players. We should really put more time into drafting. I know we haven't needed it, but someone had to foresee a time in the future when that would hurt us. Look at how much it has helped the Spurs this season.

I look at the Spurs who have picked up Manu (57 - in '99), Scola (55), Blair (37). Then you look at their first round picks (Splitter, George Hill, Beno Udrih, Barbosa, John Salmons, Tony Parker). Why can't we draft? Hell Isiah Thomas could even draft better than us in NYK.


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Post#3 » by Gek » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:17 am

Pro Tip #1: It's not necessary to quote me there because you are the first post it is obvious what you are referring to. :thumbsup:
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Post#4 » by dockingsched » Thu Feb 24, 2011 4:28 am

u forgot marc gasol.
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Post#5 » by Gek » Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:06 am

Pro Tip #2: Always use Basketball-Reference over Wikipedia. :thumbsup:



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Post#6 » by LApwnd » Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:26 am

jackson dont play rookies thats why there isnt much focus on the draft.
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Post#7 » by laduane1 » Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:57 am

Well the Lakers have traded away 4 first round picks the last few years. They could easly have been the rebuilding of the LA bench. Yes we used 2 of the first rounders to get Pau. Then we gave away this years for Joe Smith or one of those trades that has not helped the Lakers. Lakers save some money. But it will catch up with LA when they need to sign a player to fill the roster later on.
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Post#8 » by Gek » Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:41 pm

That was the point I was trying to get across, laduane1, although my post wasn't clearly written. We obviously don't play rookies and haven't needed them yet, but i look at are team approaching where the spurs were a few years ago, just plain old. They were able to use their smart drafting and developing to keep them at an elite level. Char and Ebanks are both solid second round picks, but it seems a bit too late to try to develop players.
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Post#9 » by Nett » Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:49 pm

Gambit it was of giving away 1st Rounders but 3 Finals appearance and 2 championships, I can't complain.
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Post#10 » by Slava » Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:58 pm

Giving away Toney Douglas hurts now after watching him play so well for the Knicks.
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Post#11 » by slifersd » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:42 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Giving away Toney Douglas hurts now after watching him play so well for the Knicks.


He would never play that well on the Lakers though. With their system, everyone looks good playing for the Knicks. Even Bill Walker, who couldn't get out of Boston's bench at all looked half decent as a Knick.
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Post#12 » by Slava » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:48 pm

He could pretty much be playing Farmar's role with us coming off the bench. He could run a lot more with LO, Barnes and Pau and use his athleticism. He seems a more than decent shooter and defender there.
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Post#13 » by Gek » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:01 pm

To those talking about us not drafting as the price of winning championships... it is no excuse for poor drafting. The Spurs have won championships and drafted Manu, Barbosa and Splitter on years they won championships and Udrih on the off year in their 2 ships in 3 years run.
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Post#14 » by LApwnd » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:08 pm

SlavaMedvedenko wrote:Giving away Toney Douglas hurts now after watching him play so well for the Knicks.


he sucks now and besides, if we had kept the pick are you absolutly certain he was the pick? He wasn't scouted by mgmt.
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Post#15 » by microfib4thewin » Fri Feb 25, 2011 10:50 pm

It's not like the Spurs did anything with their draft picks since Manu and Parker. Udrih sucked when he played for the Spurs only to turn things around when he got more PT with the Kings. Barbosa, Scola and Dragic got their rights traded because the Spurs was too cheap to cover the buyout cost. I give you Blair, but that's only after the Spurs stop becoming the favorite to win a title, and it took them 4 years to get Splitter here.

Even Spurs fans have complained about their over-reliance on foreign draft picks. The point here is that drafting is only so important to shore up the bench for a title contender, and most of the time it's not even required to keep the championship window open. When you do start to rebuild, it wouldn't matter whether those late 1sts amount to anything, because you have to start from scratch either way.
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Post#16 » by Slava » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:14 am

George Hill is a big acquisition for the Spurs over the past couple of seasons.
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Post#17 » by The Skyhook » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:31 am

The Spurs do an incredible job scouting talent. They are in a league of their own when it comes to scouting talent.
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Post#18 » by Tekkenlaw » Sat Feb 26, 2011 2:42 am

laduane1 wrote:Well the Lakers have traded away 4 first round picks the last few years. They could easly have been the rebuilding of the LA bench. Yes we used 2 of the first rounders to get Pau. Then we gave away this years for Joe Smith or one of those trades that has not helped the Lakers. Lakers save some money. But it will catch up with LA when they need to sign a player to fill the roster later on.

Lakers could have been grooming Jrue Holiday, Darren Collison, or Ty Lawson as their backup PG right now (Meh, who am I kidding, any of those three would be starting right now). A pick in that range in the '09 draft was easily attainable. They traded their pick for cash, but they could have traded it with cash to move into the 18-22 range in that draft.
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Post#19 » by Jajwanda » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:11 am

The new TV contract should help the Lakers acquire late first rounders to provide some athleticism off the bench in the coming years as well as buy first round picks to combine with their own for higher draft picks. While the rest of the NBA will lack cash, the Lakers have increased their cash flow.
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Post#20 » by Biohazard » Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:17 pm

Mark Madsen will forvever be a stain on the Lakers history..LMAO at Shaq for befriending that fool while he was here :lol:

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