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Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:47 am
by iamworthy
The Lakers ripped off a run of 17 wins in 18 games, during which Bynum was awesome. Particularly so in 11 March games, in which Bynum finished with fewer than 12 rebounds twice, and had eight multi-block games. As a team, the Lakers allowed only 91.3 points a game for the month, holding opponents to 42 percent shooting -- their best marks of the season. Again, this was the influence of Bynum. He was changing shots to the point ESPN.com's J.A. Adande actually invented a stat for him (S.A.B.O.A., or Shots Altered by Bynum's Outstretched Arms). Scoring became secondary (though he still did enough of it), as for the first time in his career, Bynum truly committed to the idea of dominating defensively and on the glass, something the Lakers had implored of him for years.
Turned out, he kinda liked it.
In April, Bynum had a three-game stretch in which he snagged 56 rebounds. Overall, following the break, Bynum shot over 60 percent from the field, and averaged 12.4 rebounds in only 31 minutes per game. Huge numbers, in terms of boards per minute. In the playoffs, Bynum posted 15 points and 10.3 boards, with nearly two blocks in six games against the Hornets, and had two very productive games against the Mavs, which is more than most of his teammates could say. Overall, Bynum graduated from "guy who elevates L.A.'s title hopes simply by being present and extremely tall" to "guy who elevates L.A.'s title chances because he's a bad, bad man." It was the best run of sustained success seen from Bynum since the start of the 2007-08 season, before suffering the knee injury opening the door for Pau Gasol's arrival.
Put together, it was everything about the risk/reward associated with Bynum. Moments of great potential and performance mixed with questions of health (you can't forget the missed games) and maturity, less regarding his jaunt to South Africa and more about worrisome, suspension worthy fouls delivered to Michael Beasley and J.J. Barea, the latter costing him the first five games of next year, whenever it rolls around.
Nor is his future in L.A. iron clad. Bynum's trade value will never be higher than it is right now. The Lakers have needs, and a serious financial decision to make on him. Add in hints he may not be so satisfied with third-to-fourth banana status going forward, and there are plenty of questions.http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lak ... drew-bynum
Bynum is going to make 15 mill next year with a team option at 16 mill the year after that. What should we do with the young fella. When he is on his game I wouldn't trade him for any other center. The problem is consistency. As a laker fan I pretty much understand Jim Buss's intentions. He loves Bynum like Cuban loves Dirk. With the new CBA whatever that may be, it could cripple the lakers if we give him max dollars. decisions, decisions. IMO sign him and hope he becomes what we all think he can become.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 2:54 pm
by Pablo Escobar
Keep him, he was the most consistent in the playoffs and was still the 3rd option even though the 2nd option sucked balls
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:09 pm
by RiotSweetie
Other than Kobe, he's the only player who proved that he deserves his spot in this organization. Our defense is ish without him. And he's showing more emotion out there than he did his previous years combined, which I know was a problem for some people.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:21 pm
by iamworthy
RiotSweetie wrote:Other than Kobe, he's the only player who proved that he deserves his spot in this organization. Our defense is ish without him. And he's showing more emotion out there than he did his previous years combined, which I know was a problem for some people.
Agree 100%
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:27 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
unless there is a better deal on the table (Howard) he stays.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:31 pm
by TylersLakers
snaquille oatmeal wrote:unless there is a better deal on the table (Howard) he stays.
Yup.
And if we could trade Gasol for a PG like Paul or Williams.. I would seriously look into it.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:40 pm
by Jetset
snaquille oatmeal wrote:unless there is a better deal on the table (Howard) he stays.
Pretty much this.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 4:54 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
TylersLakers wrote:
Yup.
And if we could trade Gasol for a PG like Paul or Williams.. I would seriously look into it.
I would be really careful with this. you can't expect to fix one hole by creating another. yes we do need a PG, but not at the expense of a PF. the key is using our garbage/expendable players for a PG. difficult, but not impossible after all we got an insider in Golden State.
Luke, Fish, Brown for Curry, Do it Mitch and Jerry

Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 5:35 pm
by ALL HAIL
If Irving slips to #2, Gasol to Minny for Irving, Milicic, and filler (Pekovic/Flynn).
Unless you find a better big, you keep Bynum. Trading Gasol DOES NOT leave a huge hole behind because of the presence of Odom.
The Lakers would just have to sign another backup center (in addition to Milicic) and a backup, spark plug PF (Thad Young/Carl Landry) and they'd be rolling:
PG - Blake - Irving
SG - Bryant - Fisher - SG depth
C - Bynum - Mohammed - Milicic
PF - Odom - Landry - Pekovic
SF - Barnes - Artest (30 mins off the bench; for offensive spark) - Ebanks
Irving, Artest, and Landry give this team consistent spark off the bench.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 6:05 pm
by snaquille oatmeal
ALL HAIL wrote:If Irving slips to #2, Gasol to Minny for Irving, Milicic, and filler (Pekovic/Flynn).
Unless you find a better big, you keep Bynum. Trading Gasol DOES NOT leave a huge hole behind because of the presence of Odom.
The Lakers would just have to sign another backup center (in addition to Milicic) and a backup, spark plug PF (Thad Young/Carl Landry) and they'd be rolling:
PG - Blake - Irving
SG - Bryant - Fisher - SG depth
C - Bynum - Mohammed - Milicic
PF - Odom - Landry - Pekovic
SF - Barnes - Artest (30 mins off the bench; for offensive spark) - Ebanks
Irving, Artest, and Landry give this team consistent spark off the bench.
other than not fixing our pg issues that's a good dream fix.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:57 pm
by Anklebreaker702
iamworthy wrote:The Lakers ripped off a run of 17 wins in 18 games, during which Bynum was awesome. Particularly so in 11 March games, in which Bynum finished with fewer than 12 rebounds twice, and had eight multi-block games. As a team, the Lakers allowed only 91.3 points a game for the month, holding opponents to 42 percent shooting -- their best marks of the season. Again, this was the influence of Bynum. He was changing shots to the point ESPN.com's J.A. Adande actually invented a stat for him (S.A.B.O.A., or Shots Altered by Bynum's Outstretched Arms). Scoring became secondary (though he still did enough of it), as for the first time in his career, Bynum truly committed to the idea of dominating defensively and on the glass, something the Lakers had implored of him for years.
Turned out, he kinda liked it.
In April, Bynum had a three-game stretch in which he snagged 56 rebounds. Overall, following the break, Bynum shot over 60 percent from the field, and averaged 12.4 rebounds in only 31 minutes per game. Huge numbers, in terms of boards per minute. In the playoffs, Bynum posted 15 points and 10.3 boards, with nearly two blocks in six games against the Hornets, and had two very productive games against the Mavs, which is more than most of his teammates could say. Overall, Bynum graduated from "guy who elevates L.A.'s title hopes simply by being present and extremely tall" to "guy who elevates L.A.'s title chances because he's a bad, bad man." It was the best run of sustained success seen from Bynum since the start of the 2007-08 season, before suffering the knee injury opening the door for Pau Gasol's arrival.
Put together, it was everything about the risk/reward associated with Bynum. Moments of great potential and performance mixed with questions of health (you can't forget the missed games) and maturity, less regarding his jaunt to South Africa and more about worrisome, suspension worthy fouls delivered to Michael Beasley and J.J. Barea, the latter costing him the first five games of next year, whenever it rolls around.
Nor is his future in L.A. iron clad. Bynum's trade value will never be higher than it is right now. The Lakers have needs, and a serious financial decision to make on him. Add in hints he may not be so satisfied with third-to-fourth banana status going forward, and there are plenty of questions.http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/lak ... drew-bynum
Bynum is going to make 15 mill next year with a team option at 16 mill the year after that. What should we do with the young fella. When he is on his game I wouldn't trade him for any other center. The problem is consistency. As a laker fan I pretty much understand Jim Buss's intentions. He loves Bynum like Cuban loves Dirk. With the new CBA whatever that may be, it could cripple the lakers if we give him max dollars. decisions, decisions. IMO sign him and hope he becomes what we all think he can become.
After the serious scrap outs we had towards the end of the season Big Game, I will say this. I agree 100%

Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:03 pm
by Speedlot
ALL HAIL wrote:If Irving slips to #2, Gasol to Minny for Irving, Milicic, and filler (Pekovic/Flynn).
Unless you find a better big, you keep Bynum. Trading Gasol DOES NOT leave a huge hole behind because of the presence of Odom.
The Lakers would just have to sign another backup center (in addition to Milicic) and a backup, spark plug PF (Thad Young/Carl Landry) and they'd be rolling:
PG - Blake - Irving
SG - Bryant - Fisher - SG depth
C - Bynum - Mohammed - Milicic
PF - Odom - Landry - Pekovic
SF - Barnes - Artest (30 mins off the bench; for offensive spark) - Ebanks
Irving, Artest, and Landry give this team consistent spark off the bench.
What's so dreamy about that. It's like 2007 pre Gasol all over again.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:05 pm
by Anklebreaker702
TylersLakers wrote:snaquille oatmeal wrote:unless there is a better deal on the table (Howard) he stays.
Yup.
And if we could trade Gasol for a PG like Paul or Williams.. I would seriously look into it.
Guys here's the thing about D12. I am admittingly a Bynum supporter but I would do what's best for the team in a heartbeat before having a soft spot for ANY player.
Our biggest concern right now is the 1 & 4 not the 5. I heard one of the talk show guys (can't remember who it was) say ok D12 is the best Center right now bar none but the only other Center you can mention in his class right now is AB17. Basically what he was saying is you'd be giving up #2 for #1 when the concerns are deeper @ other positions & I agree.
If Drew stays healthy he is actually a very dominant big man on both ends of the floor. If the Lakers increase his role he will shorten the gap even more between he & Howard. Believe me, there's a difference between being a 3rd option & getting to touch the ball nearly every time down the floor.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:07 pm
by Anklebreaker702
KB24_ILLMATIC wrote:Keep him, he was the most consistent in the playoffs and was still the 3rd option even though the 2nd option sucked balls
Hands down!
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:20 pm
by DEEP3CL
Speedlot wrote:ALL HAIL wrote:If Irving slips to #2, Gasol to Minny for Irving, Milicic, and filler (Pekovic/Flynn).
Unless you find a better big, you keep Bynum. Trading Gasol DOES NOT leave a huge hole behind because of the presence of Odom.
The Lakers would just have to sign another backup center (in addition to Milicic) and a backup, spark plug PF (Thad Young/Carl Landry) and they'd be rolling:
PG - Blake - Irving
SG - Bryant - Fisher - SG depth
C - Bynum - Mohammed - Milicic
PF - Odom - Landry - Pekovic
SF - Barnes - Artest (30 mins off the bench; for offensive spark) - Ebanks
Irving, Artest, and Landry give this team consistent spark off the bench.
What's so dreamy about that. It's like 2007 pre Gasol all over again.
I'll tell you what is do dreamy about it.............a Gasol scenario isn't happening again period. Further more Odom isn't a true PF, didn't we or did we not struggle in the years LO manned the PF ? Third Minny isn't going to give a pick that high for a soon to be 31 year old PF with issues on how tough he'll be year in and year out.
This is why snaquille said it's a dream fix, I know we all have good intentions on how to fix our major problems. But the thing is you kinda have to think in the realm of reality, nobody is going to "gift" us anything. Kyrie Irving may go 2nd, but that'll only be because Derrick Williams went 1st, bottom though is Minny still won't trade the pick.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:30 pm
by Wavy Q
Maybe Khan will trade it to us for Steve Blake to be rebellious against the evil rigged NBA draft.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 10:53 pm
by LascelleL
Trade you bargs and our pick for him
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 11:02 pm
by Jetset
^ Convince Bargnani to rebound and get the #1 overall pick. Then we'll talk.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:01 am
by dockingsched
DEEP3CL wrote:I'll tell you what is do dreamy about it.............a Gasol scenario isn't happening again period. Further more Odom isn't a true PF, didn't we or did we not struggle in the years LO manned the PF ? Third Minny isn't going to give a pick that high for a soon to be 31 year old PF with issues on how tough he'll be year in and year out.
This is why snaquille said it's a dream fix, I know we all have good intentions on how to fix our major problems. But the thing is you kinda have to think in the realm of reality, nobody is going to "gift" us anything. Kyrie Irving may go 2nd, but that'll only be because Derrick Williams went 1st, bottom though is Minny still won't trade the pick.
two straight titles and 3 trips to the finals with LO playing nothing but power forward, throw in a 6th man award playing only PF too.
Re: Andrew Bynum
Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 1:39 am
by Pablo Escobar
LascelleL wrote:Trade you bargs and our pick for him
loool hell naw man haha Bargs makes Pau look like Shaq in his prime when it comes to toughness
