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Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:10 am
by iamworthy
Coming off of a second round sweep, Realistically, What is a successful season for Mike Brown and the lakers next year? Mike is getting alot of negative comments here on our board and the GB so I just wanted to get your opinions.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:19 am
by TyCobb
With this roster, anything less than a Finals appearance would be a fail, in my opinion.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:22 am
by Saint18
I know he's getting a lot of negative comments but I really do think he can help us. I believe we can win a championship with brown by seeing his defensive credentials. I know he had Lebron but a Cleveland did not make a finals and two con. finals just because of lebron. I am really looking forward to seeing how our offense will look next season as well.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:25 am
by iamworthy
Yeah, imo I still have us winning the pacific, possibly winning the west, top 3 for sure, and doing major damage in the playoffs as long as we still have our legs.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:33 am
by Jakay
I expect this team to get a younger point guard. Nothing against Fish, guy's just getting too old, and there's nothing wrong with being a bench player.
From there, business as usual.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:36 am
by Saint18
Im really optimstic right know. especially with Kobe getting rest and strengthening his knees. I was hoping we could pick up a lightning fast pg that can shoot like L. Barbosa (He would have been perfect in the Triangle) for the mid-level excep. and a Def./Reb rock solid big man that can provide Pau some rest. Joe smith and Theo literally sat their asses on the bench too long, pau got no backup.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:13 am
by salmahayek
I think the expectation with this team, with this roster and payroll is a championship. I think they can contend for one.
The key is going to be the Brown - Kobe relationship. If Brown has Kobe buy in, the Lakers will contend for the title.
I think Brown's emphasis on defense will help a lot.
I also like Brown's idea of trying to copy a lot of San Antonio's offense when they had Robinson and Duncan and using a similar style with Bynum and Gasol - intriguing to say the least - if Kobe is down with that mixing into his shots.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:39 am
by Dr Aki
lets manage expectations...
NOTHING SHORT OF A RING WILL DO!
still the truth
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:59 am
by So Gutta
Championship.
Crazy how Brown is only 7 years older than Kobe.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:56 am
by DEEP3CL
Expectations will be the same as they always are. A title or else. You think Brown would put himself in this position if he thought he couldn't get his message across ? Dallas better win this title cause if they don't it curtains for them.......book it.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:46 am
by crimsonkb24
Has to be the Finals, still the best Roster in the Western Conference. I dont think we can beat Miami next year though, if they use their MLE correctly (if there is one next year)
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:37 pm
by semi-sentient
TyCobb wrote:With this roster, anything less than a Finals appearance would be a fail, in my opinion.
Our roster is flawed. We have one of the worst benches in the league, and our wing defense is atrocious because neither Kobe or Fisher can defend adequately anymore. Bynum and Pau can't seem to figure out how to play well together, and teams have simply figured out that packing the paint is an easy way to beat us since we have no shooters.
Getting to the Finals would be overachieving when you factor in that a) we'll be one year older with the same flaws and b) teams like OKC and MEM are only going to get better and have well-rounded rosters.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:21 pm
by LA Forever
As a Laker fan, expectations are always championship or bust.
As a realistic Laker fan, my expectations are championship or bust.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 4:22 pm
by dirtymike
Right...anything less than a ring will NOT do! Brown made it to the finals with a team that only had lebron...and if the team that had Shaq on it had any heart, they wouldve made it back to the finals a couple of times. There is NO questioning Kobe's heart! So Laker Nation will be aiight. Brown's a good coach. All we need is a friggin PG! Chris Paul anyone???
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 5:16 pm
by The Laker Kid
Finals appearance at least
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:17 pm
by desertlakerfan
Championship or bust until our window slams shut like it did on SA and likely Boston this year.
Those should be the only expectations for this squad. Mike Brown took a much worse Cleveland team to the finals so the experience is there, he should have no issue doing it with a fully rested and motivated 2011-12 Lakers squad.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 6:27 pm
by desertlakerfan
semi-sentient wrote:TyCobb wrote:With this roster, anything less than a Finals appearance would be a fail, in my opinion.
Our roster is flawed. We have one of the worst benches in the league, and our wing defense is atrocious because neither Kobe or Fisher can defend adequately anymore. Bynum and Pau can't seem to figure out how to play well together, and teams have simply figured out that packing the paint is an easy way to beat us since we have no shooters.
Getting to the Finals would be overachieving when you factor in that a) we'll be one year older with the same flaws and b) teams like OKC and MEM are only going to get better and have well-rounded rosters.
2 of our 3 bench players(Barnes/Blake) were coming off injuries and weren't the same players they were in the regular season. I'll agree that Brown is hot garbage, but hopefully he opts out and we can sign a guard to take his minutes or start at PG and have Fisher play the backup SG role. Our poor playoff wing defense was largely based on slow and old Fisher, chicken pox recovering Blake, and dumb as a bag of nails Brown. Add in that we were trying for our 4th deep playoff run in a row and you've got a recipe for disaster against a hot outside shooting and excellent passing team like Dallas.
We need to stop overreacting towards a bad playoff run with a mentally and physically exhausted team. The extra rest and extra motivation of being swept will get this squad back to the top after a few tweaks this off season.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:16 pm
by Saint18
desertlakerfan wrote:semi-sentient wrote:TyCobb wrote:With this roster, anything less than a Finals appearance would be a fail, in my opinion.
Our roster is flawed. We have one of the worst benches in the league, and our wing defense is atrocious because neither Kobe or Fisher can defend adequately anymore. Bynum and Pau can't seem to figure out how to play well together, and teams have simply figured out that packing the paint is an easy way to beat us since we have no shooters.
Getting to the Finals would be overachieving when you factor in that a) we'll be one year older with the same flaws and b) teams like OKC and MEM are only going to get better and have well-rounded rosters.
2 of our 3 bench players(Barnes/Blake) were coming off injuries and weren't the same players they were in the regular season. I'll agree that Brown is hot garbage, but hopefully he opts out and we can sign a guard to take his minutes or start at PG and have Fisher play the backup SG role. Our poor playoff wing defense was largely based on slow and old Fisher, chicken pox recovering Blake, and dumb as a bag of nails Brown. Add in that we were trying for our 4th deep playoff run in a row and you've got a recipe for disaster against a hot outside shooting and excellent passing team like Dallas.
We need to stop overreacting towards a bad playoff run with a mentally and physically exhausted team. The extra rest and extra motivation of being swept will get this squad back to the top after a few tweaks this off season.
Steve Blake is useless.... his job was to hit open shots and he could not do that. Brown can go, we should replace him with Barbosa.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:21 pm
by semi-sentient
Yeah, Blake was useless for all of maybe 1 month to start the season. It seems like he just kept getting worse and worse.
Re: Laker Expectations
Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 7:33 pm
by Slava
Actually I think guys like Blake, Barnes, Ebanks, Caracter and Artest might thrive in a new system. They would at least be spared the confusion of being in an alien offense.
Guys like Fisher and Walton might feel they are excess to requirements with no real role other than leadership and team spirit.
A ball handling free spirit like Odom might do better than he did in the confines of the triangle and I can really see both Kobe and LO average slightly higher than normal assists per game.