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All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:04 am
by Desiderium
I really don't get it. these players make millions and millions and they're all freaked out they wont have work for a season. ESPECIALLY players like kobe/dwight/deron/lebron/wade/etc who have other deals and endorsements as a source of income. idk why would they risk a serious injury or put more mileage on their knees...

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:21 am
by BEazy
It's a strategy to get the owners to do something about it. The owners are risking their assets to oversea teams. So the pressure is all upon the owners to do something.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:04 am
by Desiderium
big time players arent gonna leave the nba to go play overseas anyways...why would, for example, jerry buss fear he's gonna lose kobe to china? i dont think players going overseas will have an impact on how long the strike lasts...

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:14 am
by LaLa
Wtf they arent playing overseas for money they just want to play for the love of the game and in case of a lockout.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:31 am
by tugs
LaLa wrote:Wtf they arent playing overseas for money they just want to play for the love of the game and in case of a lockout.


basically this one. and I don't see big names really committing themselves long term to overseas teams unless they're really desperate to play, need money, and want to bathe in the limelight (aka Starburry).

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:49 am
by Desiderium
LaLa wrote:Wtf they arent playing overseas for money they just want to play for the love of the game and in case of a lockout.



i guess...but kobe's situation is different..he should be spending his time getting his strength back rather than drain himself playing ball. not like they dont have pickup games here -_-

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:58 am
by LaLa
Scandalouzzzz wrote:
LaLa wrote:Wtf they arent playing overseas for money they just want to play for the love of the game and in case of a lockout.



i guess...but kobe's situation is different..he should be spending his time getting his strength back rather than drain himself playing ball. not like they dont have pickup games here -_-

Well, hes gotta keep himself in basketball shape (different from being just in shape), plus hes not facing any big competition so it won't hurt him. I do agree with you somewhat, he should be resting but how much is enough rest?

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:12 am
by tugs
Competition is always in his blood, you can't get that from pick up games.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:20 am
by Sofa King
They could risk laziness by doing nothing. People always find something to complain about thats for sure. :lol:

Let them play. Gives us something to read about instead of people like Odom getting in car accidents. I bet if he was playing overseas he wouldn't be in NY in that position. :P

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:13 pm
by dirtymike
Sofa King wrote:They could risk laziness by doing nothing. People always find something to complain about thats for sure. :lol:

Let them play. Gives us something to read about instead of people like Odom getting in car accidents. I bet if he was playing overseas he wouldn't be in NY in that position. :P


c'mon...he was attending a funeral. Be easy, lol! Right, I think it's all a tactic to make the owners straighten up and fly right!

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:45 pm
by eckoner
I think it's a bigger picture!

First and foremost it does put pressure on the owners to get something done because if players have the option to play overseas and continue a revenue stream "in theory" the players could care less is the lock out continues. (Keep in mind thats the impression they want to make but all players dont have the luxury)

Then there are some players that will make tons of endorsement dollars by getting some exposure by playing overseas, even if only for a month or two. China and Europe are so ripe and finally have eyes on NBA players in regards to endorsements and big dollar contracts.

So the whole overseas thing is a negotiation ploy as well as a real opportunity for some players.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:45 am
by TyCobb
I don't mind it, just as long as they televise the games.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:34 am
by doozyj
Playing overseas is a great opportunity for players to promote/market themselves.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:18 pm
by Mass Rig
Euroleague basketball is technically more challenging than the one played in the NBA, it's what the NBA was in the '80es. It's a new and different challenge. And if the owners stick to their proposal, international contracts may even be more lucrative than the ones that the NBA will be able to offer.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:21 am
by cbrown32
Scandalouzzzz wrote:I really don't get it. these players make millions and millions and they're all freaked out they wont have work for a season. ESPECIALLY players like kobe/dwight/deron/lebron/wade/etc who have other deals and endorsements as a source of income. idk why would they risk a serious injury or put more mileage on their knees...


Sounds like someone never hooped...they don't play because they make millions, they play because they love basketball and organized competition. It's not about the money, it's about playing the game they love, keeping in basketball shape, and having an amazing, once in a lifetime experience to play in another country.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:17 pm
by JustAwesome
Scandalouzzzz wrote:he should be spending his time getting his strength back rather than drain himself playing ball. not like they dont have pickup games here -_-


Pickup games don't pay as much as the overseas offers.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:52 pm
by Edrees
Big name players like kobe want the lockout to end. they are willing to give the owners anything, because they will make max million contracts regardless. They just want to play. It's the average players that are forcing the lockout, there's a lot more of them. And the average players can't get contracts in Europe, at least not 99% of them, so it won't affect the lockout.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:47 am
by laduane1
Players do not get pay checks till November. So they are not making any money right now. Unless you could the millions from endorsements. I could live the life just off Kobes interest from his money.

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:21 pm
by Anklebreaker702
Lakers-Texas wrote:It's a strategy to get the owners to do something about it. The owners are risking their assets to oversea teams. So the pressure is all upon the owners to do something.

This

Re: All this playing overseas crap

Posted: Mon Aug 1, 2011 2:55 am
by Gek
Plus players want to play in their prime and will make more money post taxes than similar contracts will here in the states. It also increases their global marketability.