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CP3 talks back on, "progressing well"+ LA can talk to d12
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:24 pm
by dockingsched
woj making it seem like the hornets and magic are going to have to fight each other for the pleasure of dealing for young Andrew Bynum.
click on link for full article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... ers_120511...In a lot of ways, the Hornets and Orlando Magic are in a race to make a deal with the Los Angeles Lakers for Paul and Howard. They’re running so many scenarios across the big boards in their offices, but make no mistake: Los Angeles is the port that can entice Paul and Howard to sign extensions, with the one player – young center Andrew Bynum – as a centerpiece that can justify the trade.
The Lakers and Hornets talked several days ago, league sources told Yahoo! Sports, but it was one of those circuitous conversations that left the sides unclear what it would take to get a deal done, and the talk ended with no formal offers. The Lakers and Hornets expect to speak again this week, sources said. The prospect of Pau Gasol as the primary player going to the Hornets won’t be acceptable, sources said. The Lakers will ultimately be willing to let New Orleans pick its player in the deal – Bynum or Gasol – but New Orleans is determined to get quality, and quantity, in a deal.
Bynum has privately been heard to say this offseason that he wants his own team, and the chances of him getting that – in New Orleans or Orlando – have never been higher. Years ago, Kobe Bryant wanted Bynum moved for Jason Kidd, but Bryant’s been insistent all summer that he still believes in this core, isn’t interested in wholesale change.
Bryant isn’t anti-Dwight Howard, but he could see like everyone else: The Lakers need speed, athleticism and younger legs on the perimeter. Los Angeles could do little to stop Paul in the first round of the Western Conference playoffs, and that’ll only became a deeper issue this season and beyond. Nevertheless, through trades they’ve made and not made, through the hiring of their new coach, the Lakers have made it clear they don’t go to Bryant for his blessing...
...In the end, the Magic and Hornets will be searching for teams that can satisfy Paul’s and Howard’s desire for a championship contender, and that list is painfully short when you consider those with the players and assets to fulfill the return on the trade. It won’t be New York, but 3,000 miles away, in Los Angeles, where the Lakers are forever searching for a twentysomething star to be the next in line, where the race to trade Chris Paul and Dwight Howard for a package centered around Andrew Bynum has all but officially started.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:25 pm
by TyCobb
Don't tell HowardMass this.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:27 pm
by Jetset
HowardMass? Don't tell the GB this.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:29 pm
by Kilroy
TyCobb wrote:Don't tell HowardMass this.
I thought the same thing.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:38 pm
by Hunter103
Bynum has privately been heard to say this offseason that he wants his own team
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:39 pm
by The Skyhook
Woj really does make it sound too good. I've taken a hard stance on there is no possible way we land Dwight in a trade and even after reading this article I still stand by that. However it got me thinking about Chris Paul on the Lakers which is something I really haven't given much thought about.
Normally I would just brush something like this off but it is Woj.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:39 pm
by Wavy Q
i don't even know what to think right now.
If this was just some random hack beatwriter i'd call bs, but Woj has been a proven reliable source for NBA moves and rumors for years
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:42 pm
by ALL HAIL
If the Cavs weren't such idiots, we could've had LeBron James for Bynum last summer.
Kudos to Otis Smith for being smart as opposed to Dan Gilbert who played the "woe is me" card.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:43 pm
by Jetset
Jay From LA wrote:i don't even know what to think right now.
initiald will tell you what to think.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:43 pm
by dockingsched
bynum/odom/stuff for cp3/okafor is all i can see working for the lakers. don't know if that's enough for the hornets, guess it depends on how they feel about bynum and their ability to resign him to an extension next offseason after declining that huge team option.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:48 pm
by wfiles
C - Okafor
PF - Gasol
SF - Peace
SG - Kobe
PG - Paul
not bad.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:49 pm
by The Skyhook
dockingsched wrote:bynum/odom/stuff for cp3/okafor is all i can see working for the lakers. don't know if that's enough for the hornets, guess it depends on how they feel about bynum and their ability to resign him to an extension next offseason after declining that huge team option.
I think in order for the Hornets to consider trading Paul to the Lakers, Bynum would have to have his best season yet while being healthy. The thing is if Bynum is having a great year then the Lakers (mainly Jim Buss) might not be open to trading him anymore.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:53 pm
by Hunter103
The Skyhook wrote:dockingsched wrote:bynum/odom/stuff for cp3/okafor is all i can see working for the lakers. don't know if that's enough for the hornets, guess it depends on how they feel about bynum and their ability to resign him to an extension next offseason after declining that huge team option.
I think in order for the Hornets to consider trading Paul to the Lakers, Bynum would have to have his best season yet while being healthy. The thing is if Bynum is having a great year then the Lakers (mainly Jim Buss) might not be open to trading him anymore.
Not even for Howard/Paul?
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 7:57 pm
by Hunter103
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:01 pm
by The Skyhook
Hunter103 wrote:The Skyhook wrote:dockingsched wrote:bynum/odom/stuff for cp3/okafor is all i can see working for the lakers. don't know if that's enough for the hornets, guess it depends on how they feel about bynum and their ability to resign him to an extension next offseason after declining that huge team option.
I think in order for the Hornets to consider trading Paul to the Lakers, Bynum would have to have his best season yet while being healthy. The thing is if Bynum is having a great year then the Lakers (mainly Jim Buss) might not be open to trading him anymore.
Not even for Howard/Paul?
I think for Dwight he would but for Chris Paul it would depend on what else is coming back to the Lakers. If the Lakers have to give up Bynum and Odom while not getting a center in return then I don't think they pull the trigger.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:03 pm
by dockingsched
that's why i put okafor in there. not only would okafor not go well with bynum, his ridiculous contract is something the hornets would want to get rid of anyway if they're giving up on cp3.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:07 pm
by The Skyhook
I just looked at his contract. I'm not sure why I thought his deal had one less year on it.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:10 pm
by Jetset
While honestly a Paul trade would make us a more well rounded team (really our only weakness would be at the 3) than the Orlando trade (still have the same PG weakness but with Odom gone, less depth), a Kobe/Gasol/Howard tandem more than makes up for it.
It's going nowhere but downhill from here on out.
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:39 pm
by BEazy
If we get both of these guys somehow..say hello to the 4-peat!
Re: Magic and Hornets in a race to deal for Bynum
Posted: Mon Dec 5, 2011 8:41 pm
by LApwnd
Lakers-Texas wrote:If we get both of these guys somehow..say hello to the 4-peat!
isn't it just 1 or the other? Dont think Pau has any value to either Noh or Orl.....my personal pref. would be howard. The 5 championship during Kobe era hs proven we dont need a legit STAR PG. Just someone to hit their shots, no PG on those championship team was very good defensly, even Fish in his hey day was no lock down defender, best guy we ever had was an old arse Ron Harper.