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Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:07 pm
by Jetset
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_lakers_celtics_nba_021012The Houston Rockets still have a longing for Gasol, but the Lakers would want a player the Rockets are most reluctant to part with: point guard Kyle Lowry. The Lakers could probably pry a combination of Kevin Martin and Luis Scola for Gasol, league sources said, but it’s doubtful they’ll move Gasol without solving their point guard problem. Lowry has developed into one of the league’s finest point guards, but Rockets general manager Daryl Morey isn’t trading him.
Isn't Dragic still on their roster?
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:12 pm
by ChampagnePapa
Scola blows and his contract is worse. Unless its a 3 way that moves Scola elsewhere, not a huge fan.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:19 pm
by One Love
We need a PG, depth & some size if we trade Gasol and Houston can provide all three... Send Gasol to Houston for Scola (6’9” PF), Lee (6’5” SG) & Dragic (6’5” PG)... We get depth, tougher and a legit young PG... We have the lowest scoring bench in the league (20 points a game) & need to upgrade... This trade is a "win win" for both teams...
PG: Blake (6’3”) & Dragic (6’5”)
SG: Kobe (6’6”) & Lee (6’5”)
SF: Barnes (6’8”) & Ebanks (6’9”)
PF: Scola (6’9) & McRoberts (6’10”)
C: Bynum (7’1”) & Murphy (6’11”)
Our second unit would be solid, Scola plays hard and will complement Bynum and we get a PG that is legit... Scola hustles... As long as Bynum stays healthy, we will copete with this squad and get younger...
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:22 pm
by Jetset
ChampagnePapa wrote:Scola blows and his contract is worse. Unless its a 3 way that moves Scola elsewhere, not a huge fan.
Is that you, The Trade Seer?
Pau's salary over the next 3 years
11/12: $18,714,150
12/13: $19,000,000
13/14: $19,285,850
Total: $57,000,000
Scola's salary over the next 4 years
11/12: $8,591,793
12/13: $9,408,207
13/14: $10,224,622
14/15: $11,041,037 (Unguaranteed)
Total: $39,265,659
Waive Scola off in 2014 and you'd be looking at a total of $28,224,622. Pretty good value for talented big such as Scola.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:25 pm
by One Love
Scola has a reasonable salary in todays world... Luke Walton makes $5.68 million...
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:35 pm
by dirtymike
One Love wrote:We need a PG, depth & some size if we trade Gasol and Houston can provide all three... Send Gasol to Houston for Scola (6’9” PF), Lee (6’5” SG) & Dragic (6’5” PG)... We get depth, tougher and a legit young PG... We have the lowest scoring bench in the league (20 points a game) & need to upgrade... This trade is a "win win" for both teams...
PG: Blake (6’3”) & Dragic (6’5”)
SG: Kobe (6’6”) & Lee (6’5”)
SF: Barnes (6’8”) & Ebanks (6’9”)
PF: Scola (6’9) & McRoberts (6’10”)
C: Bynum (7’1”) & Murphy (6’11”)
Our second unit would be solid, Scola plays hard and will complement Bynum and we get a PG that is legit... Scola hustles... As long as Bynum stays healthy, we will copete with this squad and get younger...
I agree. I am a Magic fan by association(my wife and son loves them) and I watched Lee and he has a lot of heart. Dwight was a little upset when the Magic FO traded him. He would be a good pick up for us. Do it Mitch!!
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:51 pm
by Jetset
I'd much rather have Martin over Lee. By like a landslide.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:12 pm
by dirtymike
Jetset wrote:I'd much rather have Martin over Lee. By like a landslide.
me too...but we need a PG. And they aint giving up Lowry! and Dragic is alot better than Flynn!
What a sec...come to think about, the numbers wont match in that trade anyway...so nevermind. They would almost HAVE to settle for Scola & Martin for Pau. THOSE numbers work fine. Sorry. Excuse my ignorance!
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:13 pm
by Michael Lucky
I'm guessing Dragic would still be included considering he was in the original deal. If so the Lakers should take that deal as soon as possible. Sure Scola isn't as good as Pau, but Dragic and Martin would fill our need. Even if they don't, you could always package Martin and Bynum for Howard and Turkgolu.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:18 pm
by Jetset
dirtymike wrote:Jetset wrote:I'd much rather have Martin over Lee. By like a landslide.
me too...but we need a PG. And they aint giving up Lowry! and Dragic is alot better than Flynn!
What a sec...come to think about, the numbers wont match in that trade anyway...so nevermind. They would almost HAVE to settle for Scola & Martin for Pau. THOSE numbers work fine. Sorry. Excuse my ignorance!
We'd be about a little over $3 mil for Dragic/Scola/Martin, so we could probably include Blake and get Dragic back. I'm sure Houston wouldn't mind Blake as long as they're getting Gasol.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:20 pm
by BEazy
They want Gasol they gotta give up a player that we want which is Kyle Lowry. If not then, NEXT!
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:22 pm
by Kilroy
Lakers-Texas wrote:They want Gasol they gotta give up a player that we want which is Kyle Lowry. If not then, NEXT!
Yeah I agree, and consequently, I don't think it's happening...
Unless...................
Houston becomes a '3rd team' in a Howard deal.
Just a thought:
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6021439
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:25 pm
by Michael Lucky
Kilroy wrote:Lakers-Texas wrote:They want Gasol they gotta give up a player that we want which is Kyle Lowry. If not then, NEXT!
Yeah I agree, and consequently, I don't think it's happening...
Unless...................
Houston becomes a '3rd team' in a Howard deal.
except you're not getting any next? Deals like this don't just fall on your lap. This is as much value as anyone could possibly hope to get back for an aging Gasol. Dragic is still better than what we have at PG right now anyways.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:26 pm
by Jetset
Lakers-Texas wrote:They want Gasol they gotta give up a player that we want which is Kyle Lowry. If not then, NEXT!
You must fine settling for this mediocre cast. In which I'd say you're all alone.
We get a PG, serviceable PF, and a scoring punch off the bench. It's pretty foolish not to consider a trade like this.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:27 pm
by Michael Lucky
Let's stop looking for an All Star Caliber PG, we need one that isn't terrible that's all. Fisher and Blake are terrible.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:37 pm
by Kilroy
Jetset wrote:Lakers-Texas wrote:They want Gasol they gotta give up a player that we want which is Kyle Lowry. If not then, NEXT!
You must fine settling for this mediocre cast. In which I'd say you're all alone.
We get a PG, serviceable PF, and a scoring punch off the bench. It's pretty foolish not to consider a trade like this.
It's not a bad trade, it's more about timing... If Dwight is off the table and we haven't found our starting PG yet and the Deadline is like tomorrow.... I do the deal and don't look back...
But right now, I think it's better to wait unless they want to include Lowry.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:45 pm
by Jetset
Kilroy wrote:Jetset wrote:Lakers-Texas wrote:They want Gasol they gotta give up a player that we want which is Kyle Lowry. If not then, NEXT!
You must fine settling for this mediocre cast. In which I'd say you're all alone.
We get a PG, serviceable PF, and a scoring punch off the bench. It's pretty foolish not to consider a trade like this.
It's not a bad trade, it's more about timing... If Dwight is off the table and we haven't found our starting PG yet and the Deadline is like tomorrow.... I do the deal and don't look back...
But right now, I think it's better to wait unless they want to include Lowry.
How would a 3 way work anyway? Dwight/filler/Scola to LA, Gasol to HOU, and Bynum/Martin/filler to Orlando?
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:55 pm
by Kilroy
Jetset wrote:How would a 3 way work anyway? Dwight/filler/Scola to LA, Gasol to HOU, and Bynum/Martin/filler to Orlando?
Dwight/Nelson/Scola/Lee to LA
Bynum/Martin/Dragic to Orl
Pau/Hedu to Houston
Works in TC... But Houston wouldn't go for that unless they could amnesty Hedu or were compensated in some other way...
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6021475Or...
Dwight/Nelson/Scola/Lee to LA
Bynum/Martin/Dragic to Orl
Pau/Blake/Redick to Hou
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6021485
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:59 pm
by ChampagnePapa
Jetset wrote:ChampagnePapa wrote:Scola blows and his contract is worse. Unless its a 3 way that moves Scola elsewhere, not a huge fan.
Is that you, The Trade Seer?
Pau's salary over the next 3 years
11/12: $18,714,150
12/13: $19,000,000
13/14: $19,285,850
Total: $57,000,000
Scola's salary over the next 4 years
11/12: $8,591,793
12/13: $9,408,207
13/14: $10,224,622
14/15: $11,041,037 (Unguaranteed)
Total: $39,265,659
Waive Scola off in 2014 and you'd be looking at a total of $28,224,622. Pretty good value for talented big such as Scola.
I understand Pau has a monster contract. But paying a guy like Scola essentially 10 mil a year, well, he is not a 10 mil a year player. He is a solid PF but getting guys like Martin and Dragic as the consolation for the difference between Pau and Scola is not just worth it. What you did what just show that Scola makes less money but its because he is nowhere near the player Pau is. They could save money by trading Pau for a bunch of expiring contracts too. Trading Pau for lesser talent in quantity would make the Lakers have a similar structure as other teams except worse. I think you should ask yourself why the Rockets would do it and then understand their reasoning for doing the deal is the same reasoning the Lakers should avoid a Dragic/Martin/Scola combo.
Re: Woj: Rockets Still Interested In Pau Gasol
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:59 pm
by dirtymike
Kilroy wrote:Lakers-Texas wrote:They want Gasol they gotta give up a player that we want which is Kyle Lowry. If not then, NEXT!
Yeah I agree, and consequently, I don't think it's happening...
Unless...................
Houston becomes a '3rd team' in a Howard deal.
Just a thought:
http://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/6021439
I'll take that!!! Lee is smooth! Jameer can penetrate AND score...EASILY!