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Post#1 » by Lord_Vader » Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:28 am

so people say the lakers have two holes. 3 and the 1. However MWP has the potential to come thru for us, and he has proven to be a big game player. He is honestly the best we can get to defend the likes of Lebron , Pierce, and Durant. He is getting over a divorce with his first love and I have a feeling it lead to his bad play to start the year. Barnes is more than a solid back up 3.


However Fisher just can't produce at a high level any more. Have you guys watch around the NBA. People thought MCGrady was down, and Baron Davis. I been keeping up with Baron and he still has a game and would help this team.

Arenas being a FA is heaven sent for us.
He was released because he was making 15 million annually. He is in no rush to sign with any team since he getting paid 15 million whether he plays or not this year. Hence he would want to go to a right team, possibly a team with a good atmosphere not like Washington.

All we need is Arenas to play average defense
average 10 points
shoot 40 from 3, 50 from the floor. Arenas still has game. look at his performance he still scored the ball. He might not be old agent zero but would be worlds better then fish


in prime time minutes
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look like serious contenders. I like feel Gil could put our team over the hump
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Post#2 » by Sofa King » Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:33 am

Still weighing options on trades like the Dwight trade, Session trade, and whatever else is out there. You saw the rumors. And we have about a week left until the deadline if I'm not mistaken.

Add to the fact that Arenas is rehabbing and I like to see where's he is at now. I know he had a work out with the Lakers a month or so ago.

I'm cool with Arenas as long as he's healthy. After reading that article on him on SI, I'm sold.

Link to Article: CLICK HERE
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Post#3 » by Jajwanda » Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:36 am

It has to be the right player. We as fans have no idea exactly what Gil looked like. The player that L.A. gets will make a dramatic difference though if he plays within the confines of what the Lakers' want out of their PG off ball and in the high P and R. The starting lineup and even the finishing one with Blake could be that much better with dribble penetration coming from two spots. Defenses simply cannot contend with a Laker lineup that has a dribble penetrator at the top of the key, big men you can't leave, Kobe running a muck finding his sweet spots, and MWP laying a screen/finding his jumper.

I like your optimism. This team is closer than people think.
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Post#4 » by doozyj » Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:38 am

IDK about Arenas, I don't think he will bring any value to the Lakers this late in the season. I think we can find someone else with our TPE or picks. Still got 10 days to consider other avenues.
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Post#5 » by laduane1 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:39 am

He would be a nice bench player. Only thing is he left LA right after his so call work out. He seemed like he wanted to get back to Flordia or NY as fast as he could. He just did not seem like he wanted to be out here. I think he is going to rehad the rest of the year and summer and try to get a better deal next year. Why work when you are making 15 million.
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Post#6 » by Sofa King » Mon Mar 5, 2012 7:48 am

doozyj wrote:IDK about Arenas, I don't think he will bring any value to the Lakers this late in the season. I think we can find someone else with our TPE or picks. Still got 10 days to consider other avenues.

It seems to me the FO isn't ready to commit to using up the TPE and picks for a decent PG. That's why Arenas would be more of an "easier" signing to address the PG spot because Arenas would come in cheaper.

laduane1 wrote:He would be a nice bench player. Only thing is he left LA right after his so call work out. He seemed like he wanted to get back to Flordia or NY as fast as he could. He just did not seem like he wanted to be out here. I think he is going to rehad the rest of the year and summer and try to get a better deal next year. Why work when you are making 15 million.

If you read the whole SI article (link above) he explains that rehab is important to him. He wouldn't be ready until after the All Star break. So I could see him going back to rehab instead of **** around in LA partying.

He had good advice from Otis Smith to get himself mentally & physically ready. Arenas just was not the same person after the whole gun incident; he was simply depress. He gain more weight in Orlando due to less minutes and being on the bench eating "all that good food."

At this point, its not about the money for Arenas. It looks like he wants to prove himself again or at least give it another shot. But if it doesn't work out, he's content with how his career played out.
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Post#7 » by Jajwanda » Mon Mar 5, 2012 8:51 am

Really at the end of the day you have to find something. If L.A. is fine with simply relying on itself (improving as a team, making smaller moves within itself), then Arenas is a good option. The league simply isn't an advantageous place to make trades the vast majority of the time. The 2010 Gilbert Arenas would be enough for the Lakers (he was about the same level player as Ramon Sessions is) to make a strong run.
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Post#8 » by Edrees » Mon Mar 5, 2012 9:05 am

SO far nobody against the signing has thought he would be worse than fisher, so i'm still puzzled why anyone is against bringing him to replace fisher as a starter, other than fears of ruining team chemistry.
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Post#9 » by Asianiac_24 » Mon Mar 5, 2012 9:11 am

We need a PG who can control the tempo and dribble penetrate. I'm not sure Arenas could do either at this point in his career
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Post#10 » by BEazy » Mon Mar 5, 2012 9:47 am

I'd sign him for a vet min contract. I mean if Lakers want to be in cost cutting mode while adding talent then Arenas is their man.
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Post#11 » by ROballer » Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:48 am

Lakers-Texas wrote:I'd sign him for a vet min contract. I mean if Lakers want to be in cost cutting mode while adding talent then Arenas is their man.


Yup,totally agree

And I think it will happen eventually

The FO is probably looking for upgrades but dumping salaries in return too(hard to do)....don't think they want to take contracts and salaries and not dumping some bad ones of our own in return
With that being the case I think it's hard and unlikely we make a move and Arenas will be signed for the cheap around the trade deadline(maybe Sheed too,the way Murphy has been sucking balls lately)
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Post#12 » by ROballer » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:01 am

Forgot to mention,I'd want Arenas for the PG spot....I don't think it's a necessity to sign him if we want him to take that SG backup spot for the 10-15 mins a game in which Kobe rests ...waste of money and space IMO,Goudelock has been playing good in those minutes

If we get Arenas ,one of Fisher or Blake has to fall out of the rotation to make room for Gil
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Post#13 » by Kilroy » Mon Mar 5, 2012 5:26 pm

Let's just sign Arenas and go to war.... With Arenas.

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Post#14 » by Mamba Venom » Mon Mar 5, 2012 8:37 pm

I'm not worried that much about Artest/Barnes/Ebanks/Luke/Kapono at the 3.

I am terrified about our 1.

I still believe if management would have traded LO+expiring Sasha for a legit PG last season we would have 3 peated.

LO+expiring last season could have got us Tony Parker or an all-star PG.
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Post#15 » by kobe808lak » Mon Mar 5, 2012 9:15 pm

Anything that gets Fisher off the floor I'm OK with. I seriously can't watch him play. What exactly does he do to benefit the team when he is on the court?
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Post#16 » by azdaver » Mon Mar 5, 2012 10:44 pm

I'm not at all convinced that Arenas could beat out either Fisher or Blake for floor time at PG.

Fans fascinated with these types of signings are always interesting to me. It's like the fans that were dying to have Tracy McGrady here after he hadn't played injury free ball in years. They almost never work out.

We're not interested in high risk right now. If it's high risk we're after then we may as well play one of the rookies right now. We're pretty sure that wouldn't work out either, so what's the difference?

Mitch saw Arenas work out. Obviously if the guy impressed Mitch as someone who had made it all the way back, he probably would have been on the roster by now. Top it off, I don't even see Arenas as a PG. That's what's ridiculous about it. He doesn't even seem to meet the requirements.

I believe that the FO is sufficiently persuaded now (if they weren't before) that the Lakers can have a very good second half and contend for a title with the current core which is something I haven't been entirely sold on but could certainly live with.

I'd be very surprised indeed if they simply let the Odom TPE expire without use under circumstances where they have an opportunity to enhance the squad with a quality player or two and make a run at a title.
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Post#17 » by Jajwanda » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:07 pm

McGrady's worked out pretty well for Atlanta, so ya...

That was a huge mistake. McGrady-Barnes-Goudelock could have been a nice bench trio.
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Post#18 » by azdaver » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:31 pm

Jajwanda wrote:McGrady's worked out pretty well for Atlanta, so ya...

That was a huge mistake. McGrady-Barnes-Goudelock could have been a nice bench trio.


Atlanta is a third rate, underachieving basketball franchise year-in and year-out, so it's not surprising that McGrady would appeal to them.

And just recently I notice it's back to business as usual with this imbecile, bitching about not getting enough playing time - AGAIN!, But you're right, exactly what we need in LA. McGrady and Arenas.
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Post#19 » by ChampagnePapa » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:57 pm

If Mitch saw Arenas and still pursued and continues to pursue a PG (Sessions, Calderon, Felton and maybe others we don't hear about) and continually gets turned away (according to reports) because Tor and Cle didn't want to take back salary, it looks like he's trying to make a long term move before a short term one. Dumping salary and getting a PG is better than just getting a PG. Rasheed was reported to be signing with LA and hasn't yet but may just be in their back pocket once the roster gets settled post trade or post trade deadline. As Broussard reported, they were looking at Arenas as someone to sign after March 1 or after the trade deadline. 10 days won't make or break the season and if Arenas was that good, someone else would have signed him.
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Post#20 » by ChampagnePapa » Mon Mar 5, 2012 11:59 pm

Also, with LA playing well right now, the desperation factor definitely gets pushed back enough to be patient with the deadline.

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