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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_1L6pfqh2M&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
in this video he basically suggests that the lakers consider trading kobe cause of his age/salary. on the radio a lot of people reacted with "wtf is bucher thinking?" and "lakers would never do that"...but when i see bucher say that the lakers should consider moving kobe cause they have already shown with the LO trade and rumors of declined trades that they won't put the best talent out there if it requires lux tax....i see a mouthpiece for kobe bryant trying to send a message to the front office that they better not waste kobe's last yrs. we already know that bucher is in kobe's "circle of trust", so me thinks kobe is sending one last message that they better pony up that take out the check book for another piece that can help now.
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in this video he basically suggests that the lakers consider trading kobe cause of his age/salary. on the radio a lot of people reacted with "wtf is bucher thinking?" and "lakers would never do that"...but when i see bucher say that the lakers should consider moving kobe cause they have already shown with the LO trade and rumors of declined trades that they won't put the best talent out there if it requires lux tax....i see a mouthpiece for kobe bryant trying to send a message to the front office that they better not waste kobe's last yrs. we already know that bucher is in kobe's "circle of trust", so me thinks kobe is sending one last message that they better pony up that take out the check book for another piece that can help now.
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Oh yeah trade the guy that won 5 championships for us. Ric Bucher is a straight up moron.

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I wouldn't be surprised if that is Kobe's way of leaking a message, doc. I'm not endorsing trading Kobe, but it makes sense to move him if we're refreshing the franchise... his contract is atrocious and drastically limits our financial possibilities and that will only get worse.
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Gek wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if that is Kobe's way of leaking a message, doc. I'm not endorsing trading Kobe, but it makes sense to move him if we're refreshing the franchise... his contract is atrocious and drastically limits our financial possibilities and that will only get worse.
oh, i'm not taking the "trade kobe" part serious at all and not saying that that was part of kobe's hidden message. i think that was just an extreme attention grabbing comment to bring light to the main point which i take as "you guys gotta do everything possibly while i'm still good enough to get it done, don't waste my last elite yrs worrying about the lux tax"
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I'd trade him and luke for lebron and wade, or a 3 way trade with Kobe, Luke, metta and bynum for Lebron and D12.
Seroiusly though, anything less isn't worth it. It's been said 1000x times but due to Kobe's age even if he wanted a trade there's be nothing of equal value to get back because nobody would be williing to give up all their young pieces and future for a Kobe with his age and minutes played. He's more valuable to the lakers than anyone else and its' not even close, so there'd be no benefit of trading him.
I agree, I think it may just be a message.

I agree, I think it may just be a message.
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dockingsched wrote:Gek wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if that is Kobe's way of leaking a message, doc. I'm not endorsing trading Kobe, but it makes sense to move him if we're refreshing the franchise... his contract is atrocious and drastically limits our financial possibilities and that will only get worse.
oh, i'm not taking the "trade kobe" part serious at all and not saying that that was part of kobe's hidden message. i think that was just an extreme attention grabbing comment to bring light to the main point which i take as "you guys gotta do everything possibly while i'm still good enough to get it done, don't waste my last elite yrs worrying about the lux tax"
Maybe but because it came from Bucher I just cannot bring myself to believing it, he's been wrong about too many things other than just Kobe to Chicago. And that isn't the first time Bucher has said that this season either, he said it back in February as well but he didn't get a segment to explain like he did in your vid.
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No trade clause.
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dockingsched wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_1L6pfqh2M&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
in this video he basically suggests that the lakers consider trading kobe cause of his age/salary. on the radio a lot of people reacted with "wtf is bucher thinking?" and "lakers would never do that"...but when i see bucher say that the lakers should consider moving kobe cause they have already shown with the LO trade and rumors of declined trades that they won't put the best talent out there if it requires lux tax....i see a mouthpiece for kobe bryant trying to send a message to the front office that they better not waste kobe's last yrs. we already know that bucher is in kobe's "circle of trust", so me thinks kobe is sending one last message that they better pony up that take out the check book for another piece that can help now.
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As always, doc, nice reading between the lines.
It's a subtle but backhanded way of calling the FO on penny pinching. Kobe's got the upper hand here, saying:

"Don't get cheap on me, Dodgson."
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Bucher is a freakin' moron! Kobe will NEVER be traded, he will retire with the Lakers.

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I don't get the "Bucher's a moron" comments... he's offerring up an opinion if the Lakers are going to go down that road. I'd venture to say his opinion is correct... you don't have many choices transaction wise if half of your team salary is going to one player.
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STUPID.
It's just Bucher's take to keep some spotlight in the "did you hear what Bucher said" line. It makes absolutely ZERO sense. Kobe has a no-trade clause. Kobe makes a load of money. So either LA matches that salary with some great talent back like Dwight, Deron, etc and Kobe vetoes the deal because that leaves his new team with no talent left. He could either play with Pau and Bynum or 11 scrubs after they wash their roster getting Kobe. Or (either as a result of a botched trade attempt or just a salary situation) they trade Kobe for picks and a bunch of trash contracts so Kobe won't veto and the Lakers become losers. Nobody is giving up Lebron, Dwight, Deron, etc for Kobe.
This is not NBA 2k12 where you can just make deals. Its a real business. Bucher was talking out of his a$$ without even thinking about how it could even play out.
My guess is they don't show you the few minutes before the video because it went like this:
Ric: So you want me to talk about the Lakers?
ESPN Lady (I forget her name): Yes. That segment is coming up next, what are you goign to discuss?
Ric: Well EVERYONE is talking about Pau, Bynum, Laker PG necessity, Beasley, Calderon, Felton so there isn't anything new to talk about.
ESPN Lady: That's true its still the same Laker roster but I mean what else can they do?
Ric: Trade Kobe Bryant.
ESPN Lady: Wow. This is why we pay you what we do. You are the best at sometimes having real facts to report and sometimes coming up with insane thoughts and ideas to keep the audience interested.
Ric: A lot of us like to do this. Me, Skip, Stephen A., we're all cut from the same mold. We just say something crazy as hell now because if it doesn't happen, its easy to backtrack.
I would like Bucher to come up with just one realistic scenario of a deal where Kobe doesn't veto, Lakers bring back talent to keep them in the title hunt and doing all that with a team that can also remain in the title hunt or get to title contention by adding Kobe. Sorry Bucher, you're just stupid for this one.
And this whole post I didn't even mention how stupid it would be to slap arguably the greatest Laker right across the face. Maybe since the Heat lost 2 in a row, they should trade Lebron. Maybe since Dallas doesn't look as strong this year, they should trade Dirk. Maybe the Spurs should trade Tim Duncan.
It's just Bucher's take to keep some spotlight in the "did you hear what Bucher said" line. It makes absolutely ZERO sense. Kobe has a no-trade clause. Kobe makes a load of money. So either LA matches that salary with some great talent back like Dwight, Deron, etc and Kobe vetoes the deal because that leaves his new team with no talent left. He could either play with Pau and Bynum or 11 scrubs after they wash their roster getting Kobe. Or (either as a result of a botched trade attempt or just a salary situation) they trade Kobe for picks and a bunch of trash contracts so Kobe won't veto and the Lakers become losers. Nobody is giving up Lebron, Dwight, Deron, etc for Kobe.
This is not NBA 2k12 where you can just make deals. Its a real business. Bucher was talking out of his a$$ without even thinking about how it could even play out.
My guess is they don't show you the few minutes before the video because it went like this:
Ric: So you want me to talk about the Lakers?
ESPN Lady (I forget her name): Yes. That segment is coming up next, what are you goign to discuss?
Ric: Well EVERYONE is talking about Pau, Bynum, Laker PG necessity, Beasley, Calderon, Felton so there isn't anything new to talk about.
ESPN Lady: That's true its still the same Laker roster but I mean what else can they do?
Ric: Trade Kobe Bryant.
ESPN Lady: Wow. This is why we pay you what we do. You are the best at sometimes having real facts to report and sometimes coming up with insane thoughts and ideas to keep the audience interested.
Ric: A lot of us like to do this. Me, Skip, Stephen A., we're all cut from the same mold. We just say something crazy as hell now because if it doesn't happen, its easy to backtrack.
I would like Bucher to come up with just one realistic scenario of a deal where Kobe doesn't veto, Lakers bring back talent to keep them in the title hunt and doing all that with a team that can also remain in the title hunt or get to title contention by adding Kobe. Sorry Bucher, you're just stupid for this one.
And this whole post I didn't even mention how stupid it would be to slap arguably the greatest Laker right across the face. Maybe since the Heat lost 2 in a row, they should trade Lebron. Maybe since Dallas doesn't look as strong this year, they should trade Dirk. Maybe the Spurs should trade Tim Duncan.
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Why does this guy think that the Celtics should keep it together for 1 more shot but a core that is much younger than the Mavs of last season (who won 2 championships) needs to blow it up.
The big 3 are 33-31-24. Kobe is leading the league in scoring. What a moron.
The big 3 are 33-31-24. Kobe is leading the league in scoring. What a moron.
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I think its what Doc said, He's on the cowherd show (whatever its called) and his whole pt is "if you're not looking to put a championship team around him" then why not trade him. Sounds like a way to get the front office to do something.

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FWIW, Bucher's on SportsNation right now talking about the Lakers not building around Kobe and questioning whether or not the Lakers goal is to win titles.
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Look at this 17 24 16 guy trying to steal my thunder
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Jetset wrote:FWIW, Bucher's on SportsNation right now talking about the Lakers not building around Kobe and questioning whether or not the Lakers goal is to win titles.
kobe is worried, sending out the big guns.
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dockingsched wrote:Jetset wrote:FWIW, Bucher's on SportsNation right now talking about the Lakers not building around Kobe and questioning whether or not the Lakers goal is to win titles.
kobe is worried, sending out the big guns.
Maybe, but it kinda sounded some sort of message. Although it could just be this thread making the conspiracy theorist in me peak through.
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You guys sound like ::
Cleveland fans saying LBJ aint going nowhere
ORL fans saying D12 aint going nowhere
Utah fans saying DWill aint going nowhere
Reality is Kobe most likely "aint going nowhere"
Reason being if he were to ok a trade where would he go with that team not having to gut their entire roster to acquire Kobe?
Only way he ask's for a trade is to got another team where he thinks he can win....whoever trades for him will not have pieces left to win!!!!!
He makes so much that team would basically have to trade two of it's higher (Better) paid players just to get him.
I agree this is more like more shots fired from camp Kobe...
Make something happen now or i'm not going to be happy!
Cleveland fans saying LBJ aint going nowhere
ORL fans saying D12 aint going nowhere
Utah fans saying DWill aint going nowhere
Reality is Kobe most likely "aint going nowhere"
Reason being if he were to ok a trade where would he go with that team not having to gut their entire roster to acquire Kobe?
Only way he ask's for a trade is to got another team where he thinks he can win....whoever trades for him will not have pieces left to win!!!!!
He makes so much that team would basically have to trade two of it's higher (Better) paid players just to get him.
I agree this is more like more shots fired from camp Kobe...
Make something happen now or i'm not going to be happy!
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eckoner wrote:You guys sound like ::
Cleveland fans saying LBJ aint going nowhere
ORL fans saying D12 aint going nowhere
Utah fans saying DWill aint going nowhere
I don't get this part, especially when it's clear he isn't getting moved. Like you've stated.