Mike Brown: "Its not like Goudelock was giving us 14-15 pts"

[Jordan-esque]

Sorry Andrew Goudelock fans, but it looks like Mike Brown is not going to play him anytime soon...

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Link: ESPN Radio

Mike Brown on why Andrew Goudelock is not getting minutes:

"For a young guy he was doing a terrific job for where he was or what we asked of him. But having said that, he did not create a ton of shots for himself nor for his teammates. It wasn't like he was getting 14 or 15 points or double figure points off the bench, and so I don't think it's as big a deal or as big a difference when you're looking at production, point-wise, that he was giving us on a night in night out basis."

If only Goudelock could play more like Steve Blake and just average about 4 points but try to create a "TON of shots for himself or his teammates"...

[Sedale Threatt]

he did not create a ton of shots for himself nor for his teammates

I understand Goudelock is not a PG, but it's not like Blake does this, either. Steve has achieved Fish status -- a good game is when he does not completely suck.

[dockingsched]

i'm done with this guy.

#TeamAmnestyBrown

[poorboy]

Where to begin with this...First he says he was doing what we asked of him, then he says it wasnt like he was getting 14 or 15 off the bench for us...Sounds like a bunch of excuses from a guy who is trying to dig himself out of his own grave.

First of all, Mike Brown is right, He wasnt getting 14-15 off the bench but who in the Nba is..
Second, the one thing the bench was missing was scoring and goudelocke was the only one providing that, as well as the only one off the bench who could create his own shot. So I dont no what the hell he is talking about, but he probably doesnt no either.
Third, as Sedale mentioned, who the hell creates shots for others on this team besides Sessions and sometimes Kobe..Even when Blake was in his prime dropping 30 on the Lakers, he never created shots for others.

Mike Brown is not just a dumb coach, hes an idiot.

[ROballer]

What a **** moron

14 or 15 pts a game?Is he (Please Use More Appropriate Word) or something?When he played him at backup SG he would play him anywhere from 4 to 12-13 minutes,not more,cause he's got no balls to sit Kobe,even when he's chucking like crazy

How can he expect 14-15 pts a game WHEN HE DIDN'T EVEN PLAY THE DUDE ENOUGH

When he DID play him somewhat decent minutes(Blake injury),he gave us 10 ppg in 20 mpg on excellent efficiency(over 50% from the floor and 3 point line)..not bad for his (Please Use More Appropriate Word) standards, "production, point-wise"...10 pts in 20 minutes aint bad at all,especially for a rookie

He's beginning to annoy me,he looks for excuses to justify not playing a guy who played better than
the backup PG and with each quote he digs himself a bigger hole,just idiotic excuses

I was hoping after Phil retired that we'll se some logic rotations for once(not based on experience,hating on the rookies or other lame ****) and play the better guy but I was wrong...it's even worse

[Gek]

I have no problem with Glock sitting. Why does everyone want an undersized SG from the a small DI school to play back-up PG? Barnes back-up SG minutes are much more productive for the team. His efficiency was sporadic and often front loaded (hit his first two shots then miss the next three). Our team would not improve at all with him getting more minutes.

[snaquille oatmeal]

I have no problem with Glock sitting. Why does everyone want an undersized SG from the a small DI school to play back-up PG? Barnes back-up SG minutes are much more productive for the team. His efficiency was sporadic and often front loaded (hit his first two shots then miss the next three). Our team would not improve at all with him getting more minutes.

I reluctantly agree with this, but imo he was doing better than Blake when he played pg.

[dirtymike]

I have no problem with Glock sitting. Why does everyone want an undersized SG from the a small DI school to play back-up PG? Barnes back-up SG minutes are much more productive for the team. His efficiency was sporadic and often front loaded (hit his first two shots then miss the next three). Our team would not improve at all with him getting more minutes.

I reluctantly agree with this, but imo he was doing better than Blake when he played pg.

EXACTLY!!!! He was a rookie so what do you expect! He gave the bench a spark when he came in. I am really beginning to dislike this coach.

[miggs]

i'm done with this guy.

#TeamAmnestyBrown

#TeamAmnestyBrown

[Draper]

But having said that, he did not create a ton of shots for himself nor for his teammates.

He's a shooting guard, that's not part of his game. But even when Blake was hurt he did a decent job of managing the point guard position.

It wasn't like he was getting 14 or 15 points or double figure points off the bench.

Right, because scoring double figures is clearly a standard for our bench players. Oh and in the 7 game stretch between January and February when he was getting consistent minutes (15+ per game) he scored in double figures 4 times, averaging 10.3 per game.

#FireMikeBrown

[RocketPower23]

I have no problem with Glock sitting. Why does everyone want an undersized SG from the a small DI school to play back-up PG? Barnes back-up SG minutes are much more productive for the team. His efficiency was sporadic and often front loaded (hit his first two shots then miss the next three). Our team would not improve at all with him getting more minutes.

I think he appeal with Goudelock is that we less of Blake, give Kobe some time to rest and maybe give him some time when Kobe is sucking. The last two should be happening (he won't sit Blake, it just isn't going to happen). Worst of all, his logic is very poor, not averaging 14-15 points, are you kidding me?

[Father Time]

Mike brown, ladies and gentleman!

[Wavy Q]

I think we can all hop on board #TeamAmnestyBrown, even the #TeamDEEPSet scrubs

[Kilroy]

I'm reluctant to jump on the MB Sucks bandwagon, but I've never been convinced of his leadership ability with a team like this and over-reactions not withstanding, it does start to appear that he might be losing the team a little bit.
With the Lakers, ever since Showtime, the Playoffs are the true gauge of the team and it's coaching staff, so I don't really care too much until then, but I'm not getting those confident vibes I like to see this late in the season...

[bruddahmanmatt]

LOL. What rookie outside of Kyrie is putting up more than 14-15 PPG?

"He doesn't create for himself or others"

WAT? And Blake does? Goudelock isn't the best at getting looks for other players but he did an admirable job of creating for himself. The moment Goudelock demonstrated that he was a proficient three point shooter guys would close on him and that opened up room in the lane for his floater. He's not the greatest at creating for others but neither is Blake, and FWIW, the point in playing him would be to;

a. open up room in the lane for others by having Goudelock out on the perimeter as a legit deep threat

and

b. relieve some of the minutes on Bryant and even Barnes and MWP.

I mean WAKE THE F UP DUDE! We don't need him to drop 14-15 so much as we need him to reduce Bryant's PT. Furthermore, Barnes and MWP make for a solid defensive tandem, but you have to have a balanced lineup. Between Goudelock and Murph as a floor spacer I'd run with little Drew, and even then Murph should also be getting a bit of run as our 4th big. Four of our most important players (Bryant, Gasol, Barnes and MWP) are over 30 and this idiot is running our team into the ground with an eight man rotation. How stupid can you be? At the very least Goudelock and Murph take minutes off the legs of Bryant and Gasol.

I just want to say that I flat-out refused to trash on Brown before the start of the season as I thought he deserved a fair shake before we all assessed him as the coach of our team, but given how inept he's been when it comes to something as simple as the player rotation...I mean come on man.

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[barrettcg]

and I thought that Ph11ls rotations were strange sometimes? MB is off of his rocker and if he is allowed to continue to run the team next year I will have zero faith that the lake show can do anything but fall apart.

[crimsonkb24]

Well, Brown is right, no need to go overboard on this

[Anklebreaker702]

i'm done with this guy.

#TeamAmnestyBrown

This guy is a horses a** I'm done with him too. So Blake is giving us that right?

[Anklebreaker702]

Where to begin with this...First he says he was doing what we asked of him, then he says it wasnt like he was getting 14 or 15 off the bench for us...Sounds like a bunch of excuses from a guy who is trying to dig himself out of his own grave.

First of all, Mike Brown is right, He wasnt getting 14-15 off the bench but who in the Nba is..
Second, the one thing the bench was missing was scoring and goudelocke was the only one providing that, as well as the only one off the bench who could create his own shot. So I dont no what the hell he is talking about, but he probably doesnt no either.
Third, as Sedale mentioned, who the hell creates shots for others on this team besides Sessions and sometimes Kobe..Even when Blake was in his prime dropping 30 on the Lakers, he never created shots for others.

Mike Brown is not just a dumb coach, hes an idiot.

This! Glad I didn't jump the gun on this guy. I've been saying for about a week now I had to change my stance & admit this was a bad hire & all he does each & everyday is confirm what I felt.

[AlexBarrera1]

At least he has more than one dimension in his game, unlike Blake. In fact, Blake barely has one dimension. I can see the issue with not making plays for others, but the guy can make a clean entry pass and that should be more than enough. And if him playing PG is an issue, play him at SG. He's the only other guard besides Kobe and Sessions that can create for himself, and was capable of putting up around 8-12 PPG if given the minutes and looks.

I knew Brown was dumb, but didn't realize he was this dumb.