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Ramon Sessions Contract 

Post#1 » by monk302 » Tue May 22, 2012 2:18 pm

He plans to opt-out of the final year of his contract.The way he played during the playoffs I think he needs to seriously re-think that choice.No Gm's are going to give this guy big $$$$$. Agree or disagree?
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Post#2 » by dockingsched » Tue May 22, 2012 2:24 pm

i'm predicting a steve blake like 4/4/4
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Post#3 » by ALL HAIL » Tue May 22, 2012 3:30 pm

It would be a mistake to sign him BEFORE trading for a starting PG.

If Sessions can compliment whoever that starting PG is then resign him. If not let him walk or sign and trade him for a pick or to fill a whole.

If Irving, Wall, Turner, or Curry is brought here, I can only see him having a role with Curry or Irving.
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Post#4 » by skEwb » Tue May 22, 2012 3:38 pm

monk302 wrote:He plans to opt-out of the final year of his contract.The way he played during the playoffs I think he needs to seriously re-think that choice.No Gm's are going to give this guy big $$$$$. Agree or disagree?


Agree, he sucks. Get rid of arrogant Bynum and indecisive Pau as well. Just keep Kobe, Hill and McRoberts. Mike Brown needs to go too, he's tweaking the system during a playoff game. :wink:
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Post#5 » by crazyeights » Tue May 22, 2012 4:20 pm

What the hell has McRoberts done to warrant being a cornerstone or even retained? Hill TOOK his minutes.
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Post#6 » by desertlakerfan » Tue May 22, 2012 4:43 pm

Well the coaching staff did management a solid by holding him back, the guy was looking to get a much bigger payday before they put the brakes on his game killing his production. I wouldn't be surprised to see him take the player option now that he's had such a horrible playoffs, if he even decides to stay with us.

The guy is starter material, just not when you tell him he has to wait for 2 7 footers to plod down the court every possession. If we move Pau and just start 1 slow 7 footer, you'd likely see the coaching staff give him the green light to play like he did in the first month after the trade.
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Post#7 » by Payaso » Tue May 22, 2012 5:03 pm

skEwb wrote:
monk302 wrote:He plans to opt-out of the final year of his contract.The way he played during the playoffs I think he needs to seriously re-think that choice.No Gm's are going to give this guy big $$$$$. Agree or disagree?


Agree, he sucks. Get rid of arrogant Bynum and indecisive Pau as well. Just keep Kobe, Hill and McRoberts. Mike Brown needs to go too, he's tweaking the system during a playoff game. :wink:


I actually agree. Mcroberts is cheap, good back up big. But can go either way. Hopefully get LO for .10 on the dollar. Trade the rest.
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Post#8 » by Stebo_SSK » Tue May 22, 2012 5:04 pm

Sessions is a good player, but they basically turned him into a young Fisher towards the end of the season and the playoffs. He isnt a spot up shooter or passive player. They basically neutered his game. Coaches and GMs know what he is capable of and I could see him getting a decent deal somewhere even if its with LA.
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Post#9 » by Jajwanda » Tue May 22, 2012 6:07 pm

If you want a young Fisher to start then start Goudelock. It's really that simple. I think they can build from within and keep Sessions.
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Post#10 » by milesfides » Tue May 22, 2012 6:33 pm

Yeah, Sessions would be better not under Mike Brown's halfcourt, pass to Bynum system. But you can't ignore the fact that he COMPLETELY COLLAPSED in the playoffs. He couldn't hit a shot, didn't want to shoot, couldn't dribble, couldn't finish. He couldn't pass.

He basically couldn't play basketball anymore.

To me, that's a lack of mental toughness. Because tough-minded players rise to the occasion, and even if they struggle, they find a way to contribute. They fight. But Sessions mostly just imploded.

I would not roll the dice on him again for being our starting point guard. Because regardless of what he does in the regular season, it's the playoffs that count.

And I wouldn't count on him. At all.

He was fool's gold.
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Post#11 » by Jajwanda » Tue May 22, 2012 6:34 pm

After that post-season I think he stays.
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Post#12 » by milesfides » Tue May 22, 2012 6:34 pm

He's not going to opt-out. His value couldn't be lower right now.
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Post#13 » by Jajwanda » Tue May 22, 2012 6:35 pm

Agreed. I think he's a perfect backup PG. Did you like my roster?
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Post#14 » by Edrees » Tue May 22, 2012 6:40 pm

Resign him for extremely low, but either make mike brown let him play his real game and push the tempo or get a new coach. Sessions sucked but he's worth what we can get him for.
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Post#15 » by The Boot Room » Tue May 22, 2012 6:49 pm

first playoffs for the kid, give him a break...I doubt he will ask for more money than he's worth.
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Post#16 » by milesfides » Tue May 22, 2012 8:17 pm

10-11 Playoffs D. Fish 32.5 MPG FG 43.3% 3PT 41% FT 81%, 8.2 pts 3.6 ast 2.7 reb, 0.8 TO
11-12 Playoffs Ramon 31.7 MPG FG 37.7% 3PT 16% FT 74%, 9.7 pts 3.6 ast 3.1 reb, 1.8 TO

nice upgrade for our future PG

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Post#17 » by Jajwanda » Tue May 22, 2012 9:03 pm

I like Marquis Teague out of Kentucky this year. I think we need a scoring PG to start that can play D, run the P and R and attack off ball while Sessions should be the backup in an uptempo unit.
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Post#18 » by frozt » Tue May 22, 2012 9:58 pm

Sign Delonte
Sign Odom
Shop Bynum for Howard if not push for Deron, if not consider Rondo + someone.
Keep McRoberts and Jordan Hill
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Post#19 » by Kdot » Wed May 23, 2012 8:57 am

skEwb wrote:
monk302 wrote:He plans to opt-out of the final year of his contract.The way he played during the playoffs I think he needs to seriously re-think that choice.No Gm's are going to give this guy big $$$$$. Agree or disagree?


Agree, he sucks. Get rid of arrogant Bynum and indecisive Pau as well. Just keep Kobe, Hill and McRoberts. Mike Brown needs to go too, he's tweaking the system during a playoff game. :wink:


Keep Hill and McRoberts over Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. Laker fans are getting ridiculous. This team could have easily been up 3-2 after last game going back to Staples center. It all came down to execution. Yes we made costly turnovers but our players shouldn't be put in that situation anyways. We looked absolutely lost down the stretch during those losses. Even Kobe said they didn't know what they were doing at times. That falls on the coach. This team just also didn't play inspired. If we all think Mike Brown is an idiot what do you think the players think? They're not stupid. We need a coach that demands respect and actually has a clue about running some sort of structured offense.
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Re: Ramon Sessions Contract 

Post#20 » by Emperor_Earth » Thu May 24, 2012 4:20 am

I seem to remember a jelly bean bricking a few shots and people calling him mentally "soft". Shall we count rings and see how that assessment went?

That being said, I have one huge problem with Sessions. Dude doesn't understand PnR D at the NBA level, especially when he's getting big-man hedging help. He sags when he should go over, goes over when he should sag, traps when he shouldn't and lets people split doubles. If he were as good or as active on D as Bryant was in his youth, I would be all over trying to get a long-term contract for him.

Let's see our team:

Bryant: Turnover problems (including terrible shot->TO syndrome)
Bynum: PnR defense + consistency of effort
Gasol: boxing out, not playing smart (seriously, if Ibaka is guarding do, give him a fake... if you're boarding put a body on him you're not outjumping him whether you're shooting or you're going for a board)
MWP: playing the refs. can't keep putting refs on the fence against you. you'll lose more often than not
Sessions: PnR D, shooting as a first resort
Hill: putback fails, generally missing bunnies

Mike Brown - terrible offense, shackling Sessions, terrible substitution (srsly, Blake + Sessions simultaneously?), play D-banks on KD... he's the only one with the length and footspeed to contest with some cushion

General team: srsly... your big gets fronted and you get flummoxed? at the NBA level?
either have him reverse seal + ball reversal on perimeter or have pg attack the fronter and force a collapse, or go hi-lo....

How do you decide that the best idea is to do none of these?

It also seems like Greg Popp is the only coach in the NBA that molds a system to his players and not players to a system.

@#$@

Final note, why did we lose to the Thunder? Here's the real secret:

Bynum + Sessions suck at PnR D
KPerkins is the best [il]legal on-ball screen setter in the NBA
Russell Westbrook is top5 PG at scoring off PnR-pull up j's

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