The story/detail no one is talking about (Bynum)

Stebo_SSK · Post #1 » by **Stebo_SSK** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:25 pm

Everyone is caught in the Howard and Dwill hoopla but everyone seems to overlook the fact that Bynum doesnt have a long term deal right now. Alot of people think that trading for Dwight and renting him for a year is a bad move but what if Bynum feels that he should take his talents elsewhere? Who would you rather roll the dice with as a GM? Personally I think LA can get a ring out of Dwight with this roster and atleast 1 outside shooter and he is worth building around outside of the drama. Bynum just doesnt give me this franchise guy feel. Thoughts....

ShowTimeERA · Post #2 » by **ShowTimeERA** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:34 pm

Bynum isn't Dwight Howard as in marketable. Bynum will be taking the largest deal possible...

stunnar0b · Post #3 » by **stunnar0b** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:39 pm

Obviously howard but i doubt he'll stay without another superstar (dwill) coming as well. so for all we know if we trade for howard without the extension he could **** us around and pretend to have back problems all year. its reallyyriskt but after reading a report im sure Fo is looking at all possibilities

Michael Lucky · Post #4 » by **Michael Lucky** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:41 pm

Bynum loves his bank account. He'll go with the team that can offer him the most money and that's the team that will have him.

AcecardZ · Post #5 » by **AcecardZ** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:45 pm

stunnar0b wrote:Obviously howard but i doubt he'll stay without another superstar (dwill) coming as well. so for all we know if we trade for howard without the extension he could **** us around and pretend to have back problems all year. its reallyyriskt but after reading a report im sure Fo is looking at all possibilities

The same thought has crossed my mind but I just don't think he can afford to **** around for a whole year. If he doesn't sign an extension with the Lakers it will be a contract year for him and important for him to do well so he can get himself a lucrative deal.

The Lakers need to figure out how to turn Pau into D-Will. (I know not going to happen)

Anyway, as OP stated, if we swap out Bynum for Dwight our team becomes a championship contender overnight. If we can use the TPE we got from the Odom trade to add a shooter we'll be a very tough team to beat if we stay reasonably healthy.

tviper · Post #6 » by **tviper** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 3:51 pm

The Dwight talk is all moot. He is coming off of back surgery and has made it clear he doesn't want to play in LA. The Lakers can pay Bynum more than anyone and will extend him at the appropriate time.

AcecardZ · Post #7 » by **AcecardZ** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 4:00 pm

tviper wrote:The Dwight talk is all moot. He is coming off of back surgery and has made it clear he doesn't want to play in LA. The Lakers can pay Bynum more than anyone and will extend him at the appropriate time.

Why should the Lakers offer the max to a center with a bum knee and a questionable attitude?

Stebo_SSK · Post #8 » by **Stebo_SSK** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 4:30 pm

AcecardZ wrote:
tviper wrote:The Dwight talk is all moot. He is coming off of back surgery and has made it clear he doesn't want to play in LA. The Lakers can pay Bynum more than anyone and will extend him at the appropriate time.

Why should the Lakers offer the max to a center with a bum knee and a questionable attitude?

Exactly but its kind of a given at this point. With Roy Hibbert getting max deal offers right now, no way Bynum is going to get anything less than a max deal anywhere in the league. Im not sure why people keep bringing up Dwight's back. If his back was that bad, Orlando would be taking Brook Lopez for him right now. Not saying he wasnt injured but I doubt he has Larry Johnson back issues right now.

H00PDREAMS · Post #9 » by **H00PDREAMS** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:16 pm

Stebo_SSK wrote:
AcecardZ wrote:
Why should the Lakers offer the max to a center with a bum knee and a questionable attitude?

Exactly but its kind of a given at this point. With Roy Hibbert getting max deal offers right now, no way Bynum is going to get anything less than a max deal anywhere in the league. Im not sure why people keep bringing up Dwight's back. If his back was that bad, Orlando would be taking Brook Lopez for him right now. Not saying he wasnt injured but I doubt he has Larry Johnson back issues right now.

WORD! Theres now way Bynum gets anything less than whats being thrown at Hibbert right now. Keep your eyes on whats going down with Indiana to see how Bynum deal may go down.

Maybe thats is why Bird left the Pacers, I am guessing he didnt think Hibbert deserved MAX.

AcecardZ · Post #10 » by **AcecardZ** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:21 pm

Stebo_SSK wrote:
AcecardZ wrote:
tviper wrote:The Dwight talk is all moot. He is coming off of back surgery and has made it clear he doesn't want to play in LA. The Lakers can pay Bynum more than anyone and will extend him at the appropriate time.

Why should the Lakers offer the max to a center with a bum knee and a questionable attitude?

Exactly but its kind of a given at this point. With Roy Hibbert getting max deal offers right now, no way Bynum is going to get anything less than a max deal anywhere in the league. Im not sure why people keep bringing up Dwight's back. If his back was that bad, Orlando would be taking Brook Lopez for him right now. Not saying he wasnt injured but I doubt he has Larry Johnson back issues right now.

Agreed Bynum will get a max deal. I just hope it's not from us unless it's for a sign and trade. lol

wrt Dwight's back I read something a few weeks ago saying his surgery went smooth as butter and he should be just fine going forward. I'm a lot more confident in Dwight's back than I am Bynum's knees.

AcecardZ · Post #11 » by **AcecardZ** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:26 pm

H00PDREAMS wrote:
Stebo_SSK wrote:
AcecardZ wrote:
Why should the Lakers offer the max to a center with a bum knee and a questionable attitude?

Exactly but its kind of a given at this point. With Roy Hibbert getting max deal offers right now, no way Bynum is going to get anything less than a max deal anywhere in the league. Im not sure why people keep bringing up Dwight's back. If his back was that bad, Orlando would be taking Brook Lopez for him right now. Not saying he wasnt injured but I doubt he has Larry Johnson back issues right now.

WORD! Theres now way Bynum gets anything less than whats being thrown at Hibbert right now. Keep your eyes on whats going down with Indiana to see how Bynum deal may go down.

Maybe thats is why Bird left the Pacers, I am guessing he didnt think Hibbert deserved MAX.

If that is in fact the reason Bird left Indy, and we can only speculate, then I'm inclined to agree with Larry. Hibbert is too slow and my guess is he isn't the type of player that's going to age well.

TylersLakers · Post #12 » by **TylersLakers** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:34 pm

Mitch said in an interview a few days ago "anyone who has Andrew on their team doesn't look at him as an "expiring contract," you would much rather want him on a long term deal so we'll work on that."

Clearly shows what we want to do.

desertlakerfan · Post #13 » by **desertlakerfan** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 5:34 pm

H00PDREAMS wrote:
WORD! Theres now way Bynum gets anything less than whats being thrown at Hibbert right now. Keep your eyes on whats going down with Indiana to see how Bynum deal may go down.

Maybe thats is why Bird left the Pacers, I am guessing he didnt think Hibbert deserved MAX.

Bird understands the value of bigmen in today's NBA, his leaving imo had little to do with Hibbert getting offered the max. Before Bird's decision there was a article by one of the Indiana beat writers about what the main deciding factor would be. According to him Larry was meeting with the owner to find out if he was serious about spending the money required to put out a championship contending team or not. With Bird stepping down, it's easy to conclude the owner did not want to spend the luxury tax money Larry felt was necessary to win it all.

They not only have to decide on matching Hibbert's max offer from Portland, but they have to resign George Hill as well who they traded Kahwi Leonard to get. Larry saw those two needed to get paid and they still needed to improve the roster to challenge Miami, apparently he and the owner didn't agree on how much they needed to spend to do so.

smooth704 · Post #14 » by **smooth704** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 7:02 pm

if i were the Lakers i would consider trading both Gasol and Bynum....

Mamba Venom · Post #15 » by **Mamba Venom** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 9:42 pm

Just do D-12 for Bynum. Don't look back. This has gone on too long and it is a distraction. The Hornets deal that fell apart will forever haunt the Lakers until a big move is made.

32 year old passive Gasol is the perfect 3rd wheel. Think Nike - Just do it.

Stebo_SSK · Post #16 » by **Stebo_SSK** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 9:46 pm

Mamba Venom wrote:Just do D-12 for Bynum. Don't look back. This has gone on too long and it is a distraction. The Hornets deal that fell apart will forever haunt the Lakers until a big move is made.

32 year old passive Gasol is the perfect 3rd wheel. Think Nike - Just do it.

Although that sounds good its not that simple. Alot of different scenarios to consider and this isnt 2k where you can just try anything out. When its done its done, and this is a franchise changing move.

Anklebreaker702 · Post #17 » by **Anklebreaker702** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 11:40 pm

Mamba Venom wrote:Just do D-12 for Bynum. Don't look back. This has gone on too long and it is a distraction. The Hornets deal that fell apart will forever haunt the Lakers until a big move is made.

32 year old passive Gasol is the perfect 3rd wheel. Think Nike - Just do it.

Without an extension? Man some of you would drive the Lakers ship right into the ground.

Post #18 » by **Kilroy** » Sun Jul 1, 2012 11:45 pm

I've had serious doubts for a while now about whether Bynum would actually sign an extension with us...
I think it might have already happened otherwise.

Stebo_SSK · Post #19 » by **Stebo_SSK** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:21 am

Kilroy wrote:I've had serious doubts for a while now about whether Bynum would actually sign an extension with us...
I think it might have already happened otherwise.

Id rather roll the dice with Howard for one year and be a top 3 team and lose him than sign Bynum long term and LA never really seriously contends.

AcecardZ · Post #20 » by **AcecardZ** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:54 am

Stebo_SSK wrote:
Id rather roll the dice with Howard for one year and be a top 3 team and lose him than sign Bynum long term and LA never really seriously contends.

Exactly!!

I totally understand people liking Bynum and wanting him to stay a Laker. What I don't understand are people thinking Bynum is actually going to take the team anywhere. Did you guys not watch the guy play this year? He's great if he gets a week of rest. He's not so great, and definitely not consistent, when he has to play three games in a week. Also, he struggles against the better teams.

If you'd like to see Kobe get back to the finals one more time before he has to hang up the sneakers Dwight Howard is the Lakers best shot. I'm not saying it's a perfect, foolproof, solution. I'm saying it's the best chance the Lakers have of getting another 'ship before Kobe's too old to be a major contributor.