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Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:49 pm
by Allstar242
Does anyone know when exactly dwight howard is supposedly going to be able to practice with the lakers due to his back injury. To add, how do players with serious injuries like this work on to improve their game during the off-season. I hope Dwight uses this time wisely and works on his FT shooting, because that's a huge area of concern I have regarding his game which he can work to improve on since he is limited on what he can actually do.
*Discuss*

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:52 pm
by lodom7
August 20 is officially 4 months after surgery, supposedly that is when he is cleared to work out

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:57 pm
by Matt6288
i think its supposed to take 4-6 months to recover from this type of surgery but he wont rush back in case he screws his back up more, I think he'll be ok by the time the season starts and he takes really good care of himself so hopefully he wont injure it again...

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:04 pm
by Allstar242
I just hope he is at least doing light practice with his teammates around the start of training camp. I dont want him to feel left out when the coaches are trying to explain to the lakers players exactly what they want/expect of them for the upcoming season. But he really needs to work on his FT shooting during the off-season, I would hate to see another Shaq like center shooting roughly 50% from the FT line, I wish this can happen so he can at least maintain a 65-72% FT shooting percentage throughout the season, I might just be to greedy lol.

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:08 pm
by BosssPlaya
Recap of Dr. Robert Klapper on 08/11/12 710's Weekend Warriors program & chief of orthopedic surgery at Cedar Sinai.

Some highlights:

1. From an orthopedic surgery standpoint he would much rather have Dwight's back than Andrew's knees.

2. The knees have a much more "chronic injury" issue than Dwight's back which is an "acute injury" that can be repaired with very little sequelae.

3. After surgery, you can't play basketball and engage in any heavy physical activity for 4 months.

Why?

Because the injury is a disc herniation: a small amount of the nucleus pulposus or the "shock absorber" of the disc got squeezed out. It is a VERY SMALL amount. You get rid of the "squirted out" material with a 1 inch incision under a microscope.

There is a 5-10 percent chance that returning to physical activity too early could herniate more material. That's obviously not good because you've reherniated the disc and have to remove more of the extruded disc.

Bear in mind that Dwight was fully recovered, pain free, and ready to work out probably a few weeks after surgery (it is only 1 inch incision after all). BUT returning to physical activity too early gets you that 5-10 percent chance. Keep in mind that means there is a 90 to 95% chance that if he came back after only a month or so he would be fine.

But he is Dwight Howard and so they are being super, super cautious.

4. He had surgery 04/20/2012 which means he should be able to resume training, weights, basketball activity, etc around 08/20/2012 if everything goes according to schedule and he feels no pain, etc.

5. Per Dr. Klapper, based on that schedule Dwight should be ready for opening night (10/30/2012). He'll have 2 months to get his conditioning back. Again assuming he recovers as expected and at his age and conditioning there should be NO REASON for any setbacks.

6. Dwight will ALWAYS know he had surgery, he'll ALWAYS feel just a little different. That's unavoidable. BUT that feeling doesn't affect his ability to do what he needs to do. Per Dr. Klapper as fans we should be able to tell NO DIFFERENCE in the way he plays. He should have essentially NO difference in his skills, athleticism, etc.

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:28 pm
by Allstar242
BosssPlaya wrote:Recap of Dr. Robert Klapper on 08/11/12 710's Weekend Warriors program & chief of orthopedic surgery at Cedar Sinai.

Some highlights:

1. From an orthopedic surgery standpoint he would much rather have Dwight's back than Andrew's knees.

2. The knees have a much more "chronic injury" issue than Dwight's back which is an "acute injury" that can be repaired with very little sequelae.

3. After surgery, you can't play basketball and engage in any heavy physical activity for 4 months.

Why?

Because the injury is a disc herniation: a small amount of the nucleus pulposus or the "shock absorber" of the disc got squeezed out. It is a VERY SMALL amount. You get rid of the "squirted out" material with a 1 inch incision under a microscope.

There is a 5-10 percent chance that returning to physical activity too early could herniate more material. That's obviously not good because you've reherniated the disc and have to remove more of the extruded disc.

Bear in mind that Dwight was fully recovered, pain free, and ready to work out probably a few weeks after surgery (it is only 1 inch incision after all). BUT returning to physical activity too early gets you that 5-10 percent chance. Keep in mind that means there is a 90 to 95% chance that if he came back after only a month or so he would be fine.

But he is Dwight Howard and so they are being super, super cautious.

4. He had surgery 04/20/2012 which means he should be able to resume training, weights, basketball activity, etc around 08/20/2012 if everything goes according to schedule and he feels no pain, etc.

5. Per Dr. Klapper, based on that schedule Dwight should be ready for opening night (10/30/2012). He'll have 2 months to get his conditioning back. Again assuming he recovers as expected and at his age and conditioning there should be NO REASON for any setbacks.

6. Dwight will ALWAYS know he had surgery, he'll ALWAYS feel just a little different. That's unavoidable. BUT that feeling doesn't affect his ability to do what he needs to do. Per Dr. Klapper as fans we should be able to tell NO DIFFERENCE in the way he plays. He should have essentially NO difference in his skills, athleticism, etc.


You the Man !

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:32 pm
by XXIV
BosssPlaya wrote:Recap of Dr. Robert Klapper on 08/11/12 710's Weekend Warriors program & chief of orthopedic surgery at Cedar Sinai.

Some highlights:

1. From an orthopedic surgery standpoint he would much rather have Dwight's back than Andrew's knees.

2. The knees have a much more "chronic injury" issue than Dwight's back which is an "acute injury" that can be repaired with very little sequelae.

3. After surgery, you can't play basketball and engage in any heavy physical activity for 4 months.

Why?

Because the injury is a disc herniation: a small amount of the nucleus pulposus or the "shock absorber" of the disc got squeezed out. It is a VERY SMALL amount. You get rid of the "squirted out" material with a 1 inch incision under a microscope.

There is a 5-10 percent chance that returning to physical activity too early could herniate more material. That's obviously not good because you've reherniated the disc and have to remove more of the extruded disc.

Bear in mind that Dwight was fully recovered, pain free, and ready to work out probably a few weeks after surgery (it is only 1 inch incision after all). BUT returning to physical activity too early gets you that 5-10 percent chance. Keep in mind that means there is a 90 to 95% chance that if he came back after only a month or so he would be fine.

But he is Dwight Howard and so they are being super, super cautious.

4. He had surgery 04/20/2012 which means he should be able to resume training, weights, basketball activity, etc around 08/20/2012 if everything goes according to schedule and he feels no pain, etc.

5. Per Dr. Klapper, based on that schedule Dwight should be ready for opening night (10/30/2012). He'll have 2 months to get his conditioning back. Again assuming he recovers as expected and at his age and conditioning there should be NO REASON for any setbacks.

6. Dwight will ALWAYS know he had surgery, he'll ALWAYS feel just a little different. That's unavoidable. BUT that feeling doesn't affect his ability to do what he needs to do. Per Dr. Klapper as fans we should be able to tell NO DIFFERENCE in the way he plays. He should have essentially NO difference in his skills, athleticism, etc.


Great recap, covered the major points almost perfectly (I was listening to the interview).

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:34 pm
by semi-sentient
Use the "And 1" feature bitches.



;)

That's some awesome news though. Our schedule is easy to start the year (home heavy) so even if Howard plays limited minutes to get his conditioning back we'll be just fine.

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:03 pm
by NOODLESTYLE
You can listen to the full show with Dr. Klapper and Dr. Hunt talking about Dwight Howard's back here:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/radio/archive?id=6182844

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:06 pm
by EArl
BosssPlaya wrote:Recap of Dr. Robert Klapper on 08/11/12 710's Weekend Warriors program & chief of orthopedic surgery at Cedar Sinai.

Some highlights:

1. From an orthopedic surgery standpoint he would much rather have Dwight's back than Andrew's knees.

2. The knees have a much more "chronic injury" issue than Dwight's back which is an "acute injury" that can be repaired with very little sequelae.

3. After surgery, you can't play basketball and engage in any heavy physical activity for 4 months.

Why?

Because the injury is a disc herniation: a small amount of the nucleus pulposus or the "shock absorber" of the disc got squeezed out. It is a VERY SMALL amount. You get rid of the "squirted out" material with a 1 inch incision under a microscope.

There is a 5-10 percent chance that returning to physical activity too early could herniate more material. That's obviously not good because you've reherniated the disc and have to remove more of the extruded disc.

Bear in mind that Dwight was fully recovered, pain free, and ready to work out probably a few weeks after surgery (it is only 1 inch incision after all). BUT returning to physical activity too early gets you that 5-10 percent chance. Keep in mind that means there is a 90 to 95% chance that if he came back after only a month or so he would be fine.

But he is Dwight Howard and so they are being super, super cautious.

4. He had surgery 04/20/2012 which means he should be able to resume training, weights, basketball activity, etc around 08/20/2012 if everything goes according to schedule and he feels no pain, etc.

5. Per Dr. Klapper, based on that schedule Dwight should be ready for opening night (10/30/2012). He'll have 2 months to get his conditioning back. Again assuming he recovers as expected and at his age and conditioning there should be NO REASON for any setbacks.

6. Dwight will ALWAYS know he had surgery, he'll ALWAYS feel just a little different. That's unavoidable. BUT that feeling doesn't affect his ability to do what he needs to do. Per Dr. Klapper as fans we should be able to tell NO DIFFERENCE in the way he plays. He should have essentially NO difference in his skills, athleticism, etc.

It scares me a little that it says he will always feel something. That is more mental than Physical. If Dwight can get through that, than its gravy!

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:13 pm
by Allstar242
NOODLESTYLE wrote:You can listen to the full show with Dr. Klapper and Dr. Hunt talking about Dwight Howard's back here:

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/radio/archive?id=6182844


Thanks !

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:27 am
by VTi
nice find! Understanding his injury a bit better now!

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:06 pm
by VanExel
BosssPlaya wrote:Recap of Dr. Robert Klapper on 08/11/12 710's Weekend Warriors program & chief of orthopedic surgery at Cedar Sinai.

Some highlights:

1. From an orthopedic surgery standpoint he would much rather have Dwight's back than Andrew's knees.

2. The knees have a much more "chronic injury" issue than Dwight's back which is an "acute injury" that can be repaired with very little sequelae.

3. After surgery, you can't play basketball and engage in any heavy physical activity for 4 months.

Why?

Because the injury is a disc herniation: a small amount of the nucleus pulposus or the "shock absorber" of the disc got squeezed out. It is a VERY SMALL amount. You get rid of the "squirted out" material with a 1 inch incision under a microscope.

There is a 5-10 percent chance that returning to physical activity too early could herniate more material. That's obviously not good because you've reherniated the disc and have to remove more of the extruded disc.

Bear in mind that Dwight was fully recovered, pain free, and ready to work out probably a few weeks after surgery (it is only 1 inch incision after all). BUT returning to physical activity too early gets you that 5-10 percent chance. Keep in mind that means there is a 90 to 95% chance that if he came back after only a month or so he would be fine.

But he is Dwight Howard and so they are being super, super cautious.

4. He had surgery 04/20/2012 which means he should be able to resume training, weights, basketball activity, etc around 08/20/2012 if everything goes according to schedule and he feels no pain, etc.

5. Per Dr. Klapper, based on that schedule Dwight should be ready for opening night (10/30/2012). He'll have 2 months to get his conditioning back. Again assuming he recovers as expected and at his age and conditioning there should be NO REASON for any setbacks.

6. Dwight will ALWAYS know he had surgery, he'll ALWAYS feel just a little different. That's unavoidable. BUT that feeling doesn't affect his ability to do what he needs to do. Per Dr. Klapper as fans we should be able to tell NO DIFFERENCE in the way he plays. He should have essentially NO difference in his skills, athleticism, etc.


The OP of this summary is a head and neck surgeon who posts on lakersground.net. He has some follow up posts with more information/conversation in this thread for those who are interested:

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopi ... sc&start=0

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:41 pm
by Allstar242
Thanks for all the udates guys, to kind of change the topic though. Does anyone know anything about Steve Nash's chronic back problems and spasms he suffered throughout last years season? I am looking to make sure he is not going have any serious problems moving forward

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:17 pm
by laffertydaniel
I just saw a movie where a guy got his back broken, vertebrae sticking out and all it took was someone punching it back into place and hanging from a rope for a small amount of time and he was back to perfect help

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:32 pm
by EArl
laffertydaniel wrote:I just saw a movie where a guy got his back broken, vertebrae sticking out and all it took was someone punching it back into place and hanging from a rope for a small amount of time and he was back to perfect help

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:23 am
by Mamba Venom
XXIV wrote:
BosssPlaya wrote:Recap of Dr. Robert Klapper on 08/11/12 710's Weekend Warriors program & chief of orthopedic surgery at Cedar Sinai.

Some highlights:

1. From an orthopedic surgery standpoint he would much rather have Dwight's back than Andrew's knees.

2. The knees have a much more "chronic injury" issue than Dwight's back which is an "acute injury" that can be repaired with very little sequelae.

3. After surgery, you can't play basketball and engage in any heavy physical activity for 4 months.

Why?

Because the injury is a disc herniation: a small amount of the nucleus pulposus or the "shock absorber" of the disc got squeezed out. It is a VERY SMALL amount. You get rid of the "squirted out" material with a 1 inch incision under a microscope.

There is a 5-10 percent chance that returning to physical activity too early could herniate more material. That's obviously not good because you've reherniated the disc and have to remove more of the extruded disc.

Bear in mind that Dwight was fully recovered, pain free, and ready to work out probably a few weeks after surgery (it is only 1 inch incision after all). BUT returning to physical activity too early gets you that 5-10 percent chance. Keep in mind that means there is a 90 to 95% chance that if he came back after only a month or so he would be fine.

But he is Dwight Howard and so they are being super, super cautious.

4. He had surgery 04/20/2012 which means he should be able to resume training, weights, basketball activity, etc around 08/20/2012 if everything goes according to schedule and he feels no pain, etc.

5. Per Dr. Klapper, based on that schedule Dwight should be ready for opening night (10/30/2012). He'll have 2 months to get his conditioning back. Again assuming he recovers as expected and at his age and conditioning there should be NO REASON for any setbacks.

6. Dwight will ALWAYS know he had surgery, he'll ALWAYS feel just a little different. That's unavoidable. BUT that feeling doesn't affect his ability to do what he needs to do. Per Dr. Klapper as fans we should be able to tell NO DIFFERENCE in the way he plays. He should have essentially NO difference in his skills, athleticism, etc.


Great recap, covered the major points almost perfectly (I was listening to the interview).



GREAT POST 8-)

Re: Dwight Howard Injury Concerns

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:40 am
by 83SixersRocked
Allstar242 wrote:Does anyone know when exactly dwight howard is supposedly going to be able to practice with the lakers due to his back injury. To add, how do players with serious injuries like this work on to improve their game during the off-season. I hope Dwight uses this time wisely and works on his FT shooting, because that's a huge area of concern I have regarding his game which he can work to improve on since he is limited on what he can actually do.
*Discuss*

Dude, let him get healthy. It's what players with back injuries do. I really don't think he'll work on FTs simply because of your concerns.