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Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:48 pm
by TarktheShark
We all know Dwight is going to be our focal point in the post. He is just to dominant in the low post. Gasol again will be playing the elbow. Questions remain if Gasol is declining. Nash may make life easier via pick and roll and open looks. Gasol is a streaky mid range shooter, slow more of a center, his strength is his post game. He also will be the 4th option. Would you guys rather have a monster on the boards and defensive

ALA
Josh Smith

Or a stretch 4 who is a deadly shooter all the way to 3 point range. Look how much Ryan Anderson career took off playing next to Dwight. He allowed Dwight to do work in the paint, and Anderson spaced the floor for the 3 point ball...

Guys that come to mind
Gallinari
Andrea Bargnani
Ersan Ilyasova

our starter line up could use more quickness, and athletic ability .. Gasol checked out two playoffs in a row, is expensive and was lock down by Lebron this summer

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 4:59 pm
by Matt6288
Gasol is still an amazing player but I'd be lieing if i said i wouldn't think about replacing him with Josh Smith he's younger, much more athletic, a great defender and really good friends with Dwight. It would have to be Josh Smith for me though if we couldn't get him keep Pau....

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:03 pm
by TheXFactor
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Lakers have Nash this season. This is the reason why they are keeping Gasol, because Nash will make it easier for him, he can pick and roll or pick and pop with Nash, Gasol game should be better


Kobe and Gasol contract end in a couple of years. I think the Lakers FO is looking at the big picture 2 years from now, and win now and be in good position cap wise in the future.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:05 pm
by Alienware
I would trade Gasol for Josh Smith, but of course the Hawks wouldn't, so it's not really an option.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:05 pm
by TarktheShark
Imagine Josh Smith, World Peace and Dwight on defensive 0.o


Imagine if we were able to have the Hawks throw in a 3pt sniper in
Anthony Morrow or Kyler Korver for our bench too 0.o

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:06 pm
by TarktheShark
TheXFactor wrote:^

Lakers have Nash this season. This is the reason why they are keeping Gasol, because Nash will make it easier for him, he can pick and roll or pick and pop with Nash, Gasol game should be better


Kobe and Gasol contract end in a couple of years. I think the Lakers FO is looking at the big picture 2 years from now, and win now and be in good position cap wise in the future.


Couldn't J Smoove and Nash do the same...

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:07 pm
by Matt6288
Alienware wrote:I would trade Gasol for Josh Smith, but of course the Hawks wouldn't, so it's not really an option.


Obviously it wouldn't be a straight swap but if anyone could find a way to make this happen it's Mitch :D

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:08 pm
by TarktheShark
the Hawks should do it... Smith is not a go to scorer neither is Hortford... Hortford is more a 4 then a center, and Gasol has one of the best post games in the NBA... Hawks need to do something because every year they are a first round out

Gasol Hortford
Hortford makes more sense then Smith

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:15 pm
by Matt6288
DO IT MITCH!!!

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:32 pm
by vtime
Antwan Jamison is one of the best stretch 4s of all-time.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:34 pm
by TarktheShark
yeah he is, but another stretch 4 in the starting line up could be useful

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:37 pm
by Kilroy
I think we are set at 2, 4 and 5... We may be fine at the 3 too... It depends on how MWP, AJ, and Ebanks figure things out...

What we really need is a quick, athletic defensive 1 that can hit a jump shot once and a while...

Length would be nice too... Basically Steve Blake like 4-5 seasons ago.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:44 pm
by TarktheShark
who is a quick defensive 1 who can hit jumpers???

Eric Bleadsoe? those guys hard to come by

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:44 pm
by Matt6288
Kilroy wrote:I think we are set at 2, 4 and 5... We may be fine at the 3 too... It depends on how MWP, AJ, and Ebanks figure things out...

What we really need is a quick, athletic defensive 1 that can hit a jump shot once and a while...

Length would be nice too... Basically Steve Blake like 4-5 seasons ago.


I agree we could do with a decent backup 1. We also have Clark at the 3 and he's pretty good.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:45 pm
by LAKESHOW
Never seen the guy, but I thought that was the new guy clark...

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:29 pm
by dockingsched
i wouldn't even trade MWP for josh smith, much less a star like pau gasol.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:32 pm
by Kilroy
dockingsched wrote:i wouldn't even trade MWP for josh smith, much less a star like pau gasol.


:lol: That's basically how I feel too but didn't want to say it because I thought I was being too harsh on Smith...

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:35 pm
by dockingsched
josh smith is, for me, the prime example of a player whose game i totally despise. throw in chucker demarcus cousins and i'd have to stop rooting for the lakers.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:26 pm
by Kilroy
Yeah... I despise Cousins... I don't dislike Smith nearly that much, but there would have to be a hell of a lot more coming back in return for me to trade Pau for him...
And I actually wouldn't be opposed to trading Pau... Part of me isn't entirely convinced Pau/Dwight will work any better than Pau/Bynum did... But the potential is there.

Re: Could we use a stretch 4 or a defensive monster

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 8:29 pm
by Stebo_SSK
Not sure why guys keep bringing up a Pau for Smith trade. There is little incentive for ATL to do this. Smith is younger and cheaper. Pau isnt going to put them over the top so trading for him at 19 mil and 32 years of age isnt going to help them. Notice how once Joe Johnson was traded alot of that J Smith trade stuff died down. He isnt going anywhere.