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Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#1 » by TarktheShark » Tue Oct 2, 2012 10:45 pm

lets face the facts Thunder and Heat with us are the cream of the crop...I felt one of the biggest advantages that the Thunder had over us was our lack of depth . The heats bench came up big during their room


Lets compare the three

Back up Center

Jordan Hill Haslem Hasheem Thabeet

Haslem and Hill are equals. Both great rebounders with good d

Back up Power forward
Jamison Rasard Lewis Collison
This should be interesting.... I still think Jamison is going be big for us this year

Back up small forward
Clark/Ebanks Daquen Cook Mike Miller

I would give the edge to Mike Miller. Miller has proven to be tough and can shoot!! Clark and Ebanks have potential

Back Up Shooting Guard
Meeks James Harden Ray Allen
at this point no doubt James Harden has the edge... Meeks and Ray Allen are comparable at this point in their careers

Back up Point
Blake Maynor Cole
not one guy is out of this world


Chris Douglas Roberts could be a wild card. Don't forget since we have so much stars we more then likely we will have a star on the floor.. How do feel about how our bench stacks up with the Heat and Thunder
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Post#2 » by Mirjalovic » Wed Oct 3, 2012 12:04 am

Are you really sure Meeks & Allen are comparable ?
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#3 » by leeprettyp » Wed Oct 3, 2012 12:21 am

To be honest I actually like our bench overall over both of those teams. We're at least a legit 9 players deep.

J.Hill, Jamison, Meeks, Ebanks and I'm not to down on Blake like most on here are. Also Earl Clark can surprise some folks
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Post#4 » by Dr Aki » Wed Oct 3, 2012 12:34 am

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Post#5 » by TarktheShark » Wed Oct 3, 2012 12:39 am

I honestly feel like Douglas Roberts and Earl Clark can surprise people.. Blake blah... maybe Morris shocks the world
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Post#6 » by AcecardZ » Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:05 am

Sorry guys but Blake sucks. Somehow we need to find a way ship him out and get a better backup pg.
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Post#7 » by NCHeels2008 » Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:42 am

Maynor is world's better than Cole and Blake
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#8 » by Beethoven » Wed Oct 3, 2012 3:49 am

I don't care to compare our bench to others' as we haven't even started playing yet but what I can do is appreciate the fact that we upgraded from
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Post#9 » by JustAwesome » Wed Oct 3, 2012 11:01 am

Haslem and Hill are equals? Most teams would take the former over the latter any day. He's one of the best role players in the league.
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Post#10 » by Matt6288 » Wed Oct 3, 2012 12:02 pm

Our bench is pretty good we just need to get rid of Blake and sign Arenas.
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Post#11 » by mecxi2000 » Wed Oct 3, 2012 4:32 pm

This team has four players that need touches and fga, thats insane i dont remember any team with this kind of player so the only way this could work is to limit the time this players play together so every body has the points they want and we only see them togheter at the start of the game, starting the third and at the end of games averything in betewn wpuld a shoufle.
For instance we start with nash and kobe, our bench guys are blake and meeks. Does this mean thatr blake and meeks are going to play together, of course not. We would have one starter and one sub, that way we keep our starters happy and we have an advantage against others teams second unit. I dont understend we people are so worry about blake i think he would do fine against back up p.g. specially playing those minutes with kobe, just remember how he played better coming from the bench last year in the p.o.
The same principle applies to our big guys. The only problem i see on our team is back up s.f. we need a s.f. that can defend and shoot the open 3 thats all, if he can do more things better but the thing we need him to do are those two and i just cant see anybody on our bench doing that
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#12 » by JustAwesome » Fri Oct 5, 2012 5:11 pm

The rotation has to definitely include some minutes where Nash is on the floor with Gasol and/or Howard without Bryant. That's too powerful of an attack to not utilize.
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Post#13 » by lodom7 » Sat Oct 6, 2012 3:11 am

Our bench is actually not that bad:

Blake: A good shooter, will have much less pressure to carry the bench like last year, but kind of a liability on the defensive side of the ball

Meeks: Another good shooter/scorer, actually rated a very good defender, will come in handy dealing with the likes of Harden when coming off the bench.

Ebanks: A good defender and slasher, the kind of player that thrives with guys like Nash.

Jamison: Our sixth man and can score from multiple areas on the court, whether it means stretching the floor for Dwight and Pau or cutting to the basket and getting easy looks from Nash.

Hill: Probably one of the best backup centers in the league, averaged 14 & 13 per36 with the Lakers last year, he brings so much rebounding and interior defense as a backup center you almost forget that we have the most dominant defensive player in the league starting in front of him.
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#14 » by Ballings7 » Sat Oct 6, 2012 4:27 am

Right with OKC's...

Maynor > Blake

Harden > Meeks

Hayward < Ebanks

Jamison = Collison (spark and impact in different ways at big foward)

Hill > Thabeet

Perry Jones III has talent and very nice length, but is a quesiton mark as to how effective and significant in the rotation he'll be
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Post#15 » by DEEP3CL » Sat Oct 6, 2012 5:17 am

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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#16 » by kamelion4291 » Sat Oct 6, 2012 2:54 pm

Few things:

Joel Anthony is probably the backup center behind Bosh. I can't see anybody else getting minutes there on a regular basis.

Haslem isn't a center. He's almost exclusively a power forward. He's also easily the best PF on either bench. Either Haslem will start at PF or Lewis will.

The backup small forward is Shane Battier who will get minutes at PF.

Jodie Meeks is nowhere close to Ray Allen as a player.

Technically the backup point guard is nobody. When Wade and Chalmers go to the bench, more often than not LeBron stays on the floor and a bunch of shooters come into the game with everybody sliding over. LeBron runs the offense at that point with no point guard on the floor. Cole might come into the game and get minutes here and there, but he's on a short leash due to the depth.
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#17 » by JustAwesome » Sat Oct 6, 2012 7:51 pm

With teams shifting to smaller lineups, Haslem will get some minutes at the "center" position (basically, a three forward lineup).
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#18 » by lodom7 » Sat Oct 6, 2012 9:12 pm

kamelion4291 wrote:Few things:

Joel Anthony is probably the backup center behind Bosh. I can't see anybody else getting minutes there on a regular basis.

Haslem isn't a center. He's almost exclusively a power forward. He's also easily the best PF on either bench. Either Haslem will start at PF or Lewis will.


Haslem is for sure not easily the best 4 on either bench, he was terrible last year (6 and 6 on 45% shooting). Jamison is easily a better player and fit then Haslem and the same can be said about Jordan Hill if you want to consider him a 4.


Jodie Meeks is nowhere close to Ray Allen as a player.


If you want to compare Meeks to the Ray Allen of 4 years ago then yes. But this is a Ray Allen who is playing on sketchy ankles and got sent to the bench in favor of Avery Bradley last year. Meeks is also an underrated defender so I wouldn't expect to see Ray light up Meeks.
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#19 » by Mamba Mentality » Sun Oct 7, 2012 12:13 am

Aki wrote:if we sign hibachi, we're sweet.


I'd much rather play Blake than put that chucked into our rotation. He's washed up like no other.
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Re: Compare our bench to the Thunder and Heat 

Post#20 » by kamelion4291 » Sun Oct 7, 2012 5:23 am

lodom7 wrote:
kamelion4291 wrote:Few things:

Joel Anthony is probably the backup center behind Bosh. I can't see anybody else getting minutes there on a regular basis.

Haslem isn't a center. He's almost exclusively a power forward. He's also easily the best PF on either bench. Either Haslem will start at PF or Lewis will.


Haslem is for sure not easily the best 4 on either bench, he was terrible last year (6 and 6 on 45% shooting). Jamison is easily a better player and fit then Haslem and the same can be said about Jordan Hill if you want to consider him a 4.


Jodie Meeks is nowhere close to Ray Allen as a player.


If you want to compare Meeks to the Ray Allen of 4 years ago then yes. But this is a Ray Allen who is playing on sketchy ankles and got sent to the bench in favor of Avery Bradley last year. Meeks is also an underrated defender so I wouldn't expect to see Ray light up Meeks.


You're right. Let's compare the Haslem who had a terrible year last season and not the one who has been consistent every other year of his career. And teams I guess were lining up to sign Jodie Meeks. Oh wait, the veteran's minimum? Yeah ok, he's clearly better than a guy like Ray Allen who was offered 2 years 12 million for a reason. That's not an unbiased opinion or anything...

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