Steve Nash roll and responsibilities in the new offense

[iamworthy]

Not sure if any of you have been following the lakers training camp report but listening to Steve Nash he clearly will not be so ball dominant this year as he was with the Suns. He himself said he will play off the ball more. Which IMO is a good thing. He's the best shooter on the lakers. No way can he only do PnR's and not shoot the ball. IMO he should average close to 14-16 points a game due to the fact that Kobe and D12 will get him plenty of open looks. At this point everyone is learning the new offense but it seems like Nash has the most to learn. He will be giving the opportunity to run the PnR as he see's fit but listening to his interviews he will clearly be playing off the ball more than usual. What do you think?

[DEEP3CL]

Glad to see one of my thoughts is coming true, it was no need for Nash to pound on the rock like he constantly did in Phoenix. His shooting strength is a key component we need to take advantage of nightly, gonna make us so much more tougher to guard.

[iamworthy]

Glad to see one of my thoughts is coming true, it was no need for Nash to pound on the rock like he constantly did in Phoenix. His shooting strength is a key component we need to take advantage of nightly, gonna make us so much more tougher to guard.

Deep, dont get me started!!! Im going to cringe when Nash dribbles the ball from half court, to the top of the key, penetrate in the lane, and dribble back out again because he finds no open man. The over dribbling is going to drive me crazy. It's going to drive anyone who has ever played the game crazy.

[DEEP3CL]

Exactly Big Game, that's the last thing I wanted to see. When he did that all he did it for was to drain the defense, his guys would keep moving and moving until the guy they actually wanted to shoot got the ball. Drove me nuts too, but in reality guard especially PG's are taught to keep the dribble "live". Just never thought a guy in the pros would run it to the extreme !!

[iamworthy]

Exactly Big Game, that's the last thing I wanted to see. When he did that all he did it for was to drain the defense, his guys would keep moving and moving until the guy they actually wanted to shoot got the ball. Drove me nuts too, but in reality guard especially PG's are taught to keep the dribble "live". Just never thought a guy in the pros would run it to the extreme !!

Agree. Im just happy that no one on this team is untouchable in regards to refining their game. Everyone has to improve.

[Wreckus13]

I thank the basketball gods that we finally have good 3pt shooters to stretch the floor!

I hoping Nash can give us some 3's that I was sorely missing last year.

[nikomCH]

A lot of people are worried Nash would be under utilized if he isn't creating for others, but people also need to understand he's 38 years old and he can't be running all over the court exerting loads of energy to create for others all the time. It would actually be a nice change for him to not be relied upon for creating offense on every possession and can just sit back and take jumpers.

[Dr Aki]

say what you will, but nash led some of the most efficient offenses in the NBA despite dribbling and dribbling and dribbling some more...

but i can see why nash needs the rest at times

[leeprettyp]

Big james and Deep ya'll know these Nash homers arent gonna wanna hear the truth. But to be honest from the footage i've seen from practice and also from Kobe's mouth I'm pretty sure Bean wont be pounding the ball from the wing to much this season. He'll be willing to sacrifice that part of his game but will still get his on spot ups and pinch post action. The biggest benefit of having Nash (besides the awesome playmaking ability) is that Kobe will be able to save his leg to close games (tired legs= clank jumpers)

BTW for the people who think Bean avgs are gonna go down I just cant see any lower than 25ppg (really think he may avg around where he was last season on high fg%) because we'll still need his scoring. I see Nash avg about 10-12ppg 12apg thats really about what we need from him.

just a guess (doesnt really matter) *****EDITED for better estimates*****

Nash 11ppg 12apg
Kobe 26ppg 5rpg 3apg
Metta 8ppg
Pau 14ppg 8rpg
Dwight 22ppg 14rpg 2bpg
Jamison 9ppg
Hill 6ppg 6rpg

[ROballer]

Big james and Deep ya'll know these Nash homers arent gonna wanna hear the truth. But to be honest from the footage i've seen from practice and also from Kobe's mouth I'm pretty sure Bean wont be pounding the ball from the wing to much this season. He'll be willing to sacrifice that part of his game but will still get his on spot ups and pinch post action. The biggest benefit of having Nash (besides the awesome playmaking ability) is that Kobe will be able to save his leg to close games (tired legs= clank jumpers)

BTW for the people who think Bean avgs are gonna go down I just cant see any lower than 25ppg (really think he may avg around where he was last season on high fg%) because we'll still need his scoring. I see Nash avg about 10-12ppg 12apg thats really about what we need from him.

just a guess (doesnt really matter)

Nash 12ppg 12apg
Kobe 27ppg 5rpg 3apg
Metta 10ppg
Pau 17ppg 10rpg
Dwight 22ppg 14rpg 2bpg
Jamison 9ppg
Hill 8ppg 7rpg

That's 105 ppg from 7 guys.....sorry,not gonna happen

Pau's production gonna drop,I see him around 15 ppg at best...Kobe's gonna be around 24-26 ppg

Jamison and Hill's predictions aren't possible if Jamison isn't used A LOT at SF because there isn't enough time left after Gasol and Howard(around 25 mins per game I'd say) to get that production from 2 guys

[leeprettyp]

I can agree there I was on the high end with Pau and Hill. Jamison will play alot between the 3 and 4 positions so he will get minutes. But I cant see Kobe not in that 25-27ppg range . More than likely 2 of our 4 best players will be on the floor majority of the time based on rotations and which players compliment each other best so their will be scoring opportunities available there.

[Al242]

Big james and Deep ya'll know these Nash homers arent gonna wanna hear the truth. But to be honest from the footage i've seen from practice and also from Kobe's mouth I'm pretty sure Bean wont be pounding the ball from the wing to much this season. He'll be willing to sacrifice that part of his game but will still get his on spot ups and pinch post action. The biggest benefit of having Nash (besides the awesome playmaking ability) is that Kobe will be able to save his leg to close games (tired legs= clank jumpers)

BTW for the people who think Bean avgs are gonna go down I just cant see any lower than 25ppg (really think he may avg around where he was last season on high fg%) because we'll still need his scoring. I see Nash avg about 10-12ppg 12apg thats really about what we need from him.

just a guess (doesnt really matter)

Nash 12ppg 12apg
Kobe 27ppg 5rpg 3apg
Metta 10ppg
Pau 17ppg 10rpg
Dwight 22ppg 14rpg 2bpg
Jamison 9ppg
Hill 8ppg 7rpg

I hope your right but I doubt it

[JustAwesome]

Not sure if any of you have been following the lakers training camp report but listening to Steve Nash he clearly will not be so ball dominant this year as he was with the Suns. He himself said he will play off the ball more. Which IMO is a good thing. He's the best shooter on the lakers. No way can he only do PnR's and not shoot the ball. IMO he should average close to 14-16 points a game due to the fact that Kobe and D12 will get him plenty of open looks. At this point everyone is learning the new offense but it seems like Nash has the most to learn. He will be giving the opportunity to run the PnR as he see's fit but listening to his interviews he will clearly be playing off the ball more than usual. What do you think?

The team is much more dangerous when Nash is running the offense. He makes the other four guys a threat to score. Makes it harder to defend. I hope he doesn't spend the season as a spot up shooter. That would be a waste of his talents.

[GoldKnightRises]

I really hope you guys are not implying that Nash stands around the 3 point line like Ray Allen all season. As it has already been said before, his talents would be completely wasted. We need Nash to dominate the ball coming up the court for ll of our players to be more effective. Never once did he say he was not going to dominate the ball as he did last season, he said his responsibilities have diminished and won't have to do as much as he did in Phoenix. But Steve Nash will still be & should be Steve Nash. That's who he is and anything other than that would be a major error in the offense.

[Kobean]

I really hope you guys are not implying that Nash stands around the 3 point line like Ray Allen all season. As it has already been said before, his talents would be completely wasted. We need Nash to dominate the ball coming up the court for ll of our players to be more effective. Never once did he say he was not going to dominate the ball as he did last season, he said his responsibilities have diminished and won't have to do as much as he did in Phoenix. But Steve Nash will still be & should be Steve Nash. That's who he is and anything other than that would be a major error in the offense.

I saw an interview with Mike Brown and he said that Nash will have the option of running a Pick n Roll every time he brings the ball up the court so I hope he means it but it will be nice to see him get a few open 3s every now and agian since he is one of the best shooters ever.

[Stebo_SSK]

Lets not overanalyze things. This offense is probably going to be very dynamic and will change most likely in response to the opponent. In the end I have no worries about the offense outside of guys not being able to hit wide open long range shots at efficient rates. No more MWP at sub 30% and Kobe at 30% 3's. If these 2 give us anything around 34% and above we are more than good.

[iamworthy]

Not sure if any of you have been following the lakers training camp report but listening to Steve Nash he clearly will not be so ball dominant this year as he was with the Suns. He himself said he will play off the ball more. Which IMO is a good thing. He's the best shooter on the lakers. No way can he only do PnR's and not shoot the ball. IMO he should average close to 14-16 points a game due to the fact that Kobe and D12 will get him plenty of open looks. At this point everyone is learning the new offense but it seems like Nash has the most to learn. He will be giving the opportunity to run the PnR as he see's fit but listening to his interviews he will clearly be playing off the ball more than usual. What do you think?

The team is much more dangerous when Nash is running the offense. He makes the other four guys a threat to score. Makes it harder to defend. I hope he doesn't spend the season as a spot up shooter. That would be a waste of his talents.

Nash is the PG of this team. He's going to have the ball alot but believe it or not he will not have the ball 100% of the time. There's going to be times when Kobe has the ball on the wing/post, Gasol will have the ball 15-18 feet out or at the elbow, or D12 will have the ball on the low block. In anyone of those scenarios Nash should be spotting up. Nash is one of if not the best shooter in the league. It would be a complete waste of his talents if we didnt take advantage of that.

[JustAwesome]

Glad to see one of my thoughts is coming true, it was no need for Nash to pound on the rock like he constantly did in Phoenix. His shooting strength is a key component we need to take advantage of nightly, gonna make us so much more tougher to guard.

Nash pounding the rock is different. When scorers do it, they're actually causing their teammates to become bystanders. When someone like Nash is doing it, he's trying to find a way for his teammates to get involved.

[Kobean]

Glad to see one of my thoughts is coming true, it was no need for Nash to pound on the rock like he constantly did in Phoenix. His shooting strength is a key component we need to take advantage of nightly, gonna make us so much more tougher to guard.

Nash pounding the rock is different. When scorers do it, they're actually causing their teammates to become bystanders. When someone like Nash is doing it, he's trying to find a way for his teammates to get involved.

I agree but its also going to be good for Nash to spend a bit of time spotting up since he is an amazing shooter, I'm pretty sure there will still be lots of pick n roll but I do like the idea of Nash getting a few open 3s.

[nashill]

i would like to see nash doing his old stuff together with the second unit.