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No wonder we're losing!

2012-2013 Rank Player USG%

1) Jordan Hill @ 32.0
2) Kobe Bryant @ 28.1
3) Dwight Howard @ 26.8
4) Pau Gasol @ 23.0
5) Metta World Peace @ 14.8
6) Jodie Meeks @ 14.8
7) Steve Nash @ 13.4
8) Antawn Jamison @ 11.6
9) Steve Blake @ 7.4

Definition of USG% - The number of team plays and possessions a player utilizes while on the court.

Compare that to last season at 20 games played or more:

2011-2012 Rank Player USG%

1) Kobe Bryant @ 35.7
2) Andrew Bynum @ 23.8
3) Pau Gasol @ 22.1
4) Andrew Goudelock @ 21.9
5) Ramon Sessions @ 20.5
6) Matt Barnes @ 16.4
7) Metta World Peace @ 15.6
8) Devin Ebanks @ 14.2
9) Derek Fisher @ 13.4

Small sample size

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stat means nothing.

he's only playing 11 mpg and he's putting up a mind blogging 30% offensive rebound rate. that means a ton of put backs in a small span of time, that inflates the USG%. really no reason to even discuss it further.

I would say that Jordan Hill should rarely be given the ball in the post. More he should be out there for defense an hustle plays with the occasional wide-open 15-footer.

Oh it's a jordan-esque thread, stupid miggs there's no neutrality here. thanks ty, where would i be without you?

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dockingsched wrote:stat means nothing.

he's only playing 11 mpg and he's putting up a mind blogging 30% offensive rebound rate. that means a ton of put backs in a small span of time, that inflates the USG%. really no reason to even discuss it further.

I miss watching you stomp on bugs in blue. I'm even beginning to miss snaq. If the rich had a billion dollars for everytime a pawn complained of not being suppressed as much, they'd have a billion dollars.


i had a joke in there oh well it's gone. hi guys i'm miggs,

Ah, it all makes sense now. Jordanesque's more concerned about his fantasy team than his real team.

talk about small sample sizes and making mountains out of molehills

Stupid.

The real problem is when you look at Steve Nash's usage

I expect Steve Nash's usage to go up as he gets more comfortable with the Princeton and allows himself to freelance. Also, consider Nash was injured for the second half of our second game. That's like 1/4th of the total sample size, which by itself is too small to make any conclusions from.

Metta No Peace and Jodie Fking Meeks have higher usage than Nash!

Nash is gonna have to better balance how he attacks and how he defers. he's consciously trying to take a step back right now though, so no biggie. not like he's just being forgotten

https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne

Nash said, "I want to learn, I want to build this team up. Then if I need to be more proactive and a bigger part of things, that'll come."

everyone soo fast to nit pick brown. We beat ourselves with 20+ TO's in both games. Its not panic time yet, we can always revert back to kb/nash pick n rolls all season long.

steve nash 13.4%

nuff said

Tasp wrote:I expect Steve Nash's usage to go up as he gets more comfortable with the Princeton and allows himself to freelance. Also, consider Nash was injured for the second half of our second game. That's like 1/4th of the total sample size, which by itself is too small to make any conclusions from.

This was the USG after the 1st game / opening game vs Dallas:

Game 1 (vs Dallas)

Rank Player USG%

1) Jordan Hill @ 31.6
2) Pau Gasol @ 28.1
3) Dwight Howard @ 25.5
4) Kobe Bryant @ 21.0
5) Metta World Peace @ 15.1
6) Jodie Meeks @ 14.1
7) Antawn Jamison @ 13.6
8) Steve Nash @ 13.5
9) Steve Blake @ 9.8

So Steve Nash was still at the bottom, and Jordan Hill's USG after the 2nd game actually went up.

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Wow that's some great agenda!

Stat for the stat people who go to far into stats.

Jordan-esque wrote:

Tasp wrote:I expect Steve Nash's usage to go up as he gets more comfortable with the Princeton and allows himself to freelance. Also, consider Nash was injured for the second half of our second game. That's like 1/4th of the total sample size, which by itself is too small to make any conclusions from.

This was the USG after the 1st game / opening game vs Dallas:

Game 1 (vs Dallas)

Rank Player USG%

1) Jordan Hill @ 31.6
2) Pau Gasol @ 28.1
3) Dwight Howard @ 25.5
4) Kobe Bryant @ 21.0
5) Metta World Peace @ 15.1
6) Jodie Meeks @ 14.1
7) Antawn Jamison @ 13.6
8) Steve Nash @ 13.5
9) Steve Blake @ 9.8

So Steve Nash was still at the bottom, and Jordan Hill's USG after the 2nd game actually went up.

You totally neglected to acknowledge the second part of my statement which said regardless of what these usage stats show, the sample size is too small to draw any adequate inferences. Realize that Nash is consciously deviating from his bread and butter pick and roll game in order to expedite the integration of the offense. Once we get this Princeton thing down, a month into the season, maybe these usage numbers would be more illuminating and less misleading.