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Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 7:01 am
by Xpressure
http://sulia.com/channel/la-lakers/f/ac ... cb9cc8a54/Why isn't Jodie Meeks playing more? Mike Brown explains ...
"I’ve tried to take a look at everybody, and right now, off the bench, I’m going to try to bring Metta and Dwight back, or keep either Pau or Dwight with our starting group most of the time and try to get Metta back with that group too."
"Then I want to give Jamison a long look out on the floor and I like the way that Jordan Hill has played at the power forward from time to time with his size and his energy and what he’s done for us last year and so, what it has come down to is basically Meeks and Ebanks. There’s still not a whole lot of minutes there. There could be a lot of minutes. It’s going to basically be a night-to-night type deal, but right now it’s Ebanks."
"What I need to do is I need to let it flow for a little bit. This is the first time in consecutive games that I’m, for the most part, going to go with the same rotation or the same group of guys consecutively. I hadn’t done it all preseason, I hadn’t done it so far in the regular season and I need to start doing it. Even if they don’t play well, I need to do it for a few games in a row to see if we can try to get a rhythm."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketbal ... 2581.storyJodie Meeks was brought in to shoot but has sat.
"It's disappointing because everyone wants to play," said Meeks, who has made two of seven shots, including two of five from three-point range, and is averaging 2.0 points in 7.3 minutes per game. "But there's really nothing I can do. Right now it's just out of my control and his decision."
It's apparently going to take even longer for Meeks, who has been pushed toward the end of the bench with Coach Mike Brown designating Devin Ebanks as Kobe Bryant's primary backup at shooting guard for the next few weeks.
A bad sign for Meeks: He played only four minutes against Detroit, and that was with the Lakers holding leads as large as 36 points.
If nothing else, Meeks is making an impression in practice. He was the last player to leave the court Monday, sprinting to different spots on the court to spot up for jumpers long after his teammates had disappeared into the back rooms of their training facility.
I applaud Jodie for at least trying to work harder and make an impression.
But please no more Darius Morris and Steve Blake playing in the back court together.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 7:27 am
by gotokyo
The new goudelock
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 7:29 am
by Kobe System
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 8:53 am
by Asianiac_24
Mike Brown must hate really shooters or something. First G-Lock, now Meeks. For a team in such dire need for perimeter outside shooting, to freeze out our best shooters like this is just ridiculous. Ebanks and Morris have shown nothing worthy for them to take minutes away from Meeks, and as said before Jamison is brought in as a stretch 4. Dude CANNOT play the 3 spot. We could have Steve Novak here bombing 3s after 3s every game and he'd still be frozen on the bench because "its not like he can give us 10 to 15 points or something" SMH
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 9:30 am
by tugs
Ebanks probably is the competition for PT for Meeks. with Blake's "resurgence" and Morris starting to bloom, it's going to be hard.
it's a good problem to have in any team, but wow that rotation is just plain bad.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 9:32 am
by dingclancy
i do not get MBs fascination on length at the detriment of player playing out of position.
Jamison should be playing PF, Ebanks on SF, and Meeks as the Kobe Backup.
Right now Between Jamison and Hill, I'd take Jordan Hill. So that means Twan should be benched.
2nd quarter rotation should be Howard/Gasol, Hill, Ebanks (though questionable), Meeks, Blake.
I'd love for Jamison to work out, but if MB prefers Hill, then he should do so without ruining floor balance.
Howard/Gasol, Hill, Jamison, Ebanks, Blake is just a bad scoring unit.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 9:38 am
by Kobe System
Well, what can I say? We have a stupid coach. But we already know that.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 9:51 am
by rhp1990
Meeks is known for his shooting. I know he has phases of inconsistency, but he's still a 3 point specialist. He needs to be in there for floor spacing! He needs to get comfortable playing with a certain rotation or else i doubt Meeks even finds a comfort zone this year.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 9:55 am
by rhp1990
I dont get Mike Brown. Even Rick Carlisle is dealing with injury problems and depth issues, but his starters who are YOUNGER than ours are playing less minutes. Collison/OJ are only playing 32-33ish, and they are still competing fine!
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 10:46 am
by Compton310
this fool we have as a coach is freakingretarded jesus christ.. are bench been outscored 198 to 50 wtf
an u mean to tell me there's no room for meeks on the floor one of the best 3point shooters on the team besides nash
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 10:46 am
by EArl
Kobe System wrote:Well, what can I say? We have a stupid coach. But we already know that.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 12:58 pm
by Imadogg
Some stats for you guys.
Jodie Meeks' career 3pt numbers
32% in 12mpg his rookie year, 40% in 28mpg the next year, and 36% in 25mpg last year.
League's 3pt shooting last year
Sorted by %. League average? Around 35% from deep. Where are we.. look lower.. yea at 25th. 32.6% ahead of the Griz, Jazz, Wizards, Kings, Bobcats. Good job Lakers.
Our 3pt shooting last year
That's our top 10 guys, sorted by %. Let's throw out Morris who was up there in limited time/attempts, and McRoberts who doesn't count with his minuscule attempts.
So these are now are top 8 3pt shooters from last year.
Ramon Sessions shot an absurd 49% in 1.5 attempts. Gone.
Troy Murphy 42% in just 1 attempt. Gone.
Goudelock a good 37% in 2 attempts in just 10mpg. Gone.
Remember the average 3pt shooting in the league? 35%? Well we had those guys above average, and they're gone.
That left Blake at 33% (respectable), Barnes and Fisher gone, Kobe and Metta at 30% (meh).
Now lets go back to Meeks. Hmm, we dumped Goudelock who can shoot because "he's small and can't play D". Our other shooters are gone (Troy was useless cuz he can't move, Sessions had to go).. lets get this guy Meeks! Look at his numbers again. Shooting way above league averages on 4+ attempts a game.. that's what you want from a 3 shooter! Great signing on that one Mitch!
Oh wait. He shoots really well. Lets not play him. Because like other guys have longer arms. Yea. Lets not play our shooters. Smart.
Thank you based Mike Brown.
****.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:24 pm
by ROballer
We're starting to hit our 3's though this year(even without Meeks)
Albeit a very small sample size,but we're shooting almost 41% from deep(7 makes per game)...that number will probably dip but I'd be very pleased with 37% overall
Kobe 53% on 4.3 attempts
Blake 62% on 2 attempts
Morris 67% on 1.5 attempts
Meeks 40% on 1.5 attempts
MWP and Nash with low percentages right now,which will improve most likely
That being said,I'd rather see Meeks too over Ebanks at SG
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 1:47 pm
by Alleyooops
This is classic Mike Brown. In the final playoff series he coached against Boston with the Cavs he didn't play Daniel Gibson because he was looking for length. Completely ignoring the fact that he's probably the best outside shooter on the roster and a good, scrappy defender.
I like Mike Brown but I still don't think he's head coaching material. He's an excellent players coach and he's an excellent teacher when it comes to defense. But I don't think he's the total package, he can't seem to pull it all together.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:35 pm
by crazyeights
Alleyooops wrote:This is classic Mike Brown. In the final playoff series he coached against Boston with the Cavs he didn't play Daniel Gibson because he was looking for length. Completely ignoring the fact that he's probably the best outside shooter on the roster and a good, scrappy defender.
I like Mike Brown but I still don't think he's head coaching material. He's an excellent players coach and he's an excellent teacher when it comes to defense. But I don't think he's the total package, he can't seem to pull it all together.
Calling MB "excellent" at anything seems to be a little silly. If he's such a great defensive teacher then why did the Lakers get worse at defense last year as the season went on?
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:36 pm
by semi-sentient
dingclancy wrote:Jamison should be playing PF, Ebanks on SF, and Meeks as the Kobe Backup.
Right now Between Jamison and Hill, I'd take Jordan Hill. So that means Twan should be benched.
Completely agree with this. Jamison has not earned playing time at the 4 and he sucks as a 3.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:40 pm
by MistyMountain20
This isn't fair. Someone please save us from Mike Brown.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 2:46 pm
by dockingsched
semi-sentient wrote:dingclancy wrote:Jamison should be playing PF, Ebanks on SF, and Meeks as the Kobe Backup.
Right now Between Jamison and Hill, I'd take Jordan Hill. So that means Twan should be benched.
Completely agree with this. Jamison has not earned playing time at the 4 and he sucks as a 3.
one reason for him going with jamison at the 3 right now is that eh's familiar with the offense, having played under eddie jordan in washington. brown might want him in there to help scaffold the learning process for all the other princeton offense noobs.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 3:56 pm
by The Skyhook
His rotations are going to be a game by game thing? No wonder why guys can't establish any confidence. They aren't even given a chance to improve because Mike Brown will yank them as soon as they have a bad game. I wish he would just establish set rotations and stick with them for the entire season.
Re: Jodie Meeks won't be in rotation explains Mike Brown
Posted: Tue Nov 6, 2012 4:01 pm
by Kilroy
All I'm going to say is, what looks good on paper doesn't always work in practice... ie: We don't really know what's going on in practice... Maybe Meeks is just lost out there...
The one thing I'll say about Brown, and it's always been my question about him, is, I can give a **** about him being a "Players Coach" and that his guys love him... I would much rather have a coach that his players respected.
That said, it's still too early in this experiment to form any kind of meaningful impression of the job he's doing.
