What happened to Jordan Hill?

[Kobe Bean]

Cmon Pringles

Even the 2k lineups are better than this

He should run Pau/Hill much more often. That'll give Pau the space to operate in the low post, a very capable defender to cooperate with, while also giving Hill an opportunity to finally play

[Kobe System]

MDA doesn't really like him.

[MensRea]

Dantoni

[Draper]

At the very least Jordan will provide much needed energy/hustle and can protect the rim when Dwight's on the bench. Right now teams are getting layups and dunks far too easily with the Pau/Jamison lineup.

[NY2k1]

If this is any indication of what he did in NY, then good luck seeing Hill on the floor.

[semi-sentient]

I'm already developing a strong dislike for D'Antoni.

Hill was one of the few bright spots off the bench last season and was playing well prior to us hiring Mike. He deserves some playing time.

[ennui]

D'antoni's coaching so far has been a disappointment. I've always considered a good coach one who incorporates players skill-sets within the pre-existing system, not force them to be something they aren't. Both Hill and Pau are becoming increasingly obsolete with D'antoni's high-paced spread pnr system. Unless Mike knows through some clandestine channel that Hill and Pau are on the trading block, his usage of them has been dubious to say the least.

It's grating to hear him berate the roster with accusations of being unathletic, which while being true is perplexing. What did he think he was getting with this squad? We've all harped on his reliance of Steve Nash, and while Nash will obviously be wondrous on the offensive end, he can't solve our lack of athleticism and defensive miscues. So to continue to use his absence as a scapegoat for our current struggles is (imo) misleading, and kind of amateurish on his part.

[Desiderium]

ridiculous how ebanks gets the nod before hill.

[Wavy Q]

People surprised that D'Antoni sucks

thats a shocker

[Tha Hater]

Not sure why guys keep criticizing D'Antoni for his coaching moves. Jordan Hill wouldnt have prevented a 40 pt 4th qtr against the Magic. The starters in general need to step up their D and offensive flow. Stop blaming everyone else for this team's lack of intensity.

[SniperHawk10]

Not sure why guys keep criticizing D'Antoni for his coaching moves. Jordan Hill wouldnt have prevented a 40 pt 4th qtr against the Magic. The starters in general need to step up their D and offensive flow. Stop blaming everyone else for this team's lack of intensity.

Lack of heart, intensity and energy.. Something HIll can provide off the bench.

He wouldn't stop a 40 pt run, but he is more than serviceable off the bench

[RatherUnique]

D'Antoni likes short rotations & Jamison has taken Hill's spot as the backup 4.

[Father Time]

Jamison is playing really well right now, so he's getting the PT.

I also don't understand the constant criticism of Dantoni. Not every coach is going to be Phil quality, people need to get over it. That being said, I think he's done a decent job in the 7 games he's coached. Players seem to be buying in to his style even if it isn't a perfect fit for this roster. Players are having fun and playing freely again. He has emphasized defense and rightly criticized the team's lackadaisical approach at that end. He has made mostly good rotation adjustments from game to game. I don't see the reason for all the griping.

[Asianiac_24]

Jordan Hill deserves some playing time. I would cut Ebanks out of the rotation and have Jamison and Kobe split the back up 3 minutes. My ideal rotation:

Nash (30)/Morris(12)/Blake & Duhon (6)
Kobe (28) / Meeks (20)
MWP (30) / Jamison (12) / Kobe (6)
Gasol (18) / Hill (18) / Jamison(12)
Dwight(36) / Gasol (12)

Running a shorten lineup is just (Please Use More Appropriate Word) when the season is still 65 games long. Our main guys are in their 30s, there is no reasons to run a shorten lineup right now, that is for the playoffs. When Gasol is playing the 5 spot, Hill should ALWAYS play the 4. When Dwight is on, Jamison would fill in the 4. That way we have a better balance of spacing and interior defense.

[Asianiac_24]

Jamison is playing really well right now, so he's getting the PT.

I also don't understand the constant criticism of Dantoni. Not every coach is going to be Phil quality, people need to get over it. That being said, I think he's done a decent job in the 7 games he's coached. Players seem to be buying in to his style even if it isn't a perfect fit for this roster. Players are having fun and playing freely again. He has emphasized defense and rightly criticized the team's lackadaisical approach at that end. He has made mostly good rotation adjustments from game to game. I don't see the reason for all the griping.

D'Antoni has done a decent job? Giving up 40 points in the 4th quarter and 113 points in the whole game against a team that sucks ass on offense is doing a decent job? In the 7 games he coached, which game have we won by playing good defense? His first game against Brooklyn? The 3 wins we won have largely come from our offense, and that just isn't going to cut it come playoff time. Our defense has to improve, and with Kobe/MWP/Dwight in our lineup this defense is inexcusable. We are 3-4 in his 7 games, that is FAR from decent considering we have 3 stars in our starting lineup, 4 when Nash comes back.

[Optms]

Jordan Hill deserves some playing time. I would cut Ebanks out of the rotation and have Jamison and Kobe split the back up 3 minutes. My ideal rotation:

Nash (30)/Morris(12)/Blake & Duhon (6)
Kobe (28) / Meeks (20)
MWP (30) / Jamison (12) / Kobe (6)
Gasol (18) / Hill (18) / Jamison(12)
Dwight(36) / Gasol (12)

What are you smoking? This is part of the reason why I was glad to see Brown go. That rotation you've set up flat out makes me want to vomit. Giving Jamison any time at the 3 is unacceptable. Offensively and defensively his game will take a nose dive. He hasn't played that position in years. We might as well cut him now if that's the plan.

Hill is a good player but this team doesn't have the floor spacing whenever he's on the floor with Pau or Howard. Hill isn't the answer to our problems. Offensively Jamison is just the better fit on this team.

The truth is this team is going to struggle defensively all year. Its D'Antoni's job to maximize the offense and set reasonably sane rotations. He wasn't brought here to run things the way Brown did.

[Father Time]

Jamison is playing really well right now, so he's getting the PT.

I also don't understand the constant criticism of Dantoni. Not every coach is going to be Phil quality, people need to get over it. That being said, I think he's done a decent job in the 7 games he's coached. Players seem to be buying in to his style even if it isn't a perfect fit for this roster. Players are having fun and playing freely again. He has emphasized defense and rightly criticized the team's lackadaisical approach at that end. He has made mostly good rotation adjustments from game to game. I don't see the reason for all the griping.

D'Antoni has done a decent job? Giving up 40 points in the 4th quarter and 113 points in the whole game against a team that sucks ass on offense is doing a decent job? In the 7 games he coached, which game have we won by playing good defense? His first game against Brooklyn? The 3 wins we won have largely come from our offense, and that just isn't going to cut it come playoff time. Our defense has to improve, and with Kobe/MWP/Dwight in our lineup this defense is inexcusable. We are 3-4 in his 7 games, that is FAR from decent considering we have 3 stars in our starting lineup, 4 when Nash comes back.

How is the defense his fault exactly? He can't play defense for the team. Blame Kobe, Pau, Dwight, whoever but to place the entirety of the blame on the coach is ridiculous period. He can only control so much and have so much influence over the game, but ultimately it is decided by the players on the court. If the team isn't going to put up any resistance than that's on the players defending. Dantoni can say "come on guys let's pick up the defense", but if the players are too lazy to do so then it means nothing.

We have 3 stars, 2 are out of their primes and the third is recovering from back surgery. The fourth is 39 and has missed almost the whole season. We've switched coaches and offensive systems multiple times. We have a bunch of new guys who have been playing together for basically 15 games. Our third and 4th string PGs are playing right now because Blake and Nash are injured. I mean, I could go on. We were 1-4 in Brown's 5 games, so he's already an improvement.

Honestly how we win doesn't matter much to me. If we go 16-0 in the playoffs but give up 110 points per game, who cares as long as we're winning? We've won our games with explosive offense that should get more consistent as the players get more familiar and comfortable with each other. Our defense has shown flashes of being smothering, so I don't know what your deal is.

[tugs]

hopefully Hill can be utilized once Nash gets back. he's not as strong and athletic as Amare was but is more active and that makes up for it.

[The Skyhook]

D'Antoni was never a fan of Hill during his time with the Knicks so the lack of play time shouldn't come off as a big shock. I know he is undersized but how effective can Hill be at the 5? Gasol could really use some rest right now. Does D'Antoni care more about playing a certain guy over having the healthiest team come playoff time?

[Kobean]

Somebody needs to get the ''WE WANT HILL'' chants going at Staples center, he is such an important part of the bench its stupid to not play him.