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Who should adjust Pau Gasol or Dantoni?

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Post#1 » by bigdong23 » Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:11 pm

I think it has to be Dantoni, you cant except a 30 some year old allstar/ 2 time champ/ one of the best PF in the league / 7 footer to stop doing what he made a career out of and become a jump shooter over night. Players have their game, coaches need to know how to utilize that. Theres no reason Pau should avg 12 ppg, thats a joke. And no other team in the whole league other then the lakers would pick Antawn Jamison for Pau Gasol in the 4th Q, thats just foolish, the only reason for this is because of Dantoni being rigid about his system.

Side note: Lakers fans hating on Pau should be ashamed of themselves, w/o him no 3 trips to the finals. What have you done for me lately is going to a whole new level. Ungrateful.
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Post#2 » by Penberthy » Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:23 pm

I think the whole "not fitting the system" thing is overblown. He looks plain tired/injured. I count 2to4 point blank layups that Pau misses pretty much every game. He has ZERO lift as is evidenced by him being blocked multiple times on single possessions. If he somehow recovers and gets that lift back and makes those bunnies then boom he is back at 18-20 ppg.
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Post#3 » by bigdong23 » Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:48 pm

Penberthy wrote:I think the whole "not fitting the system" thing is overblown. He looks plain tired/injured. I count 2to4 point blank layups that Pau misses pretty much every game. He has ZERO lift as is evidenced by him being blocked multiple times on single possessions. If he somehow recovers and gets that lift back and makes those bunnies then boom he is back at 18-20 ppg.


good point, the health bug has really hit lakers hard early
hopefully get that out of the way early as opposed to dealing with it later in the year.
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Re: Who Should Adjust? 

Post#4 » by BEazy » Tue Dec 4, 2012 11:54 pm

Dude nobody is saying Pau had no part in the 3 finals run and the past 2 championships. The Pau we are seeing isn't the Pau we've saw during those championship runs.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQlXrRPNV4[/youtube]
^^^This is the Pau Gasol that has something to prove, something to gain. The one we are seeing today isn't the same. He has no fire, no emotion, and no effort.

I wish everybody would just stop talking about the whole 3 finals run and 2 championships. IT'S THE PAST, I'm sorry to say this but take some of the Laker haters' advise and quit living in the past.
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Post#5 » by bigdong23 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:16 am

Lakers-Texas wrote:Dude nobody is saying Pau had no part in the 3 finals run and the past 2 championships. The Pau we are seeing isn't the Pau we've saw during those championship runs.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQlXrRPNV4[/youtube]
^^^This is the Pau Gasol that has something to prove, something to gain. The one we are seeing today isn't the same. He has no fire, no emotion, and no effort.

I wish everybody would just stop talking about the whole 3 finals run and 2 championships. IT'S THE PAST, I'm sorry to say this but take some of the Laker haters' advise and quit living in the past.


Oh give me a break, Phil was able to utilize Gasol better then anyone. NOT Brown, nor Dantoni. Is he older and not the same player anymore? yes, but thats like anyone aging in the NBA. He needs to be utilized the way he was in the those 3 years we made it to the finals. Haters arent living in the moment, they're just typical casual fans with their knee jerk reaction. Pau Gasol is still one of the best PF's in the NBA, he didnt just fall of the earth after 2010, he just been victim of morons who dont know how to use him.
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Post#6 » by bigdong23 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:20 am

Lakers-Texas wrote:Dude nobody is saying Pau had no part in the 3 finals run and the past 2 championships. The Pau we are seeing isn't the Pau we've saw during those championship runs.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQlXrRPNV4[/youtube]
^^^This is the Pau Gasol that has something to prove, something to gain. The one we are seeing today isn't the same. He has no fire, no emotion, and no effort.

I wish everybody would just stop talking about the whole 3 finals run and 2 championships. IT'S THE PAST, I'm sorry to say this but take some of the Laker haters' advise and quit living in the past.


and I wish you would actually pay attention to the video you posted. u see all these plays have Pau scoring within 10-5 feet of the basket. Theres a reason he not doing that anymore, and instead missing BS jumpers and in the mike brown era shooting 3's for god sake! your jokes , talking abt emotions passion. the games comes down to X's and O's and hes clearly not being put in the situation he was in this vid
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Post#7 » by BEazy » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:20 am

bigdong23 wrote:
Lakers-Texas wrote:Dude nobody is saying Pau had no part in the 3 finals run and the past 2 championships. The Pau we are seeing isn't the Pau we've saw during those championship runs.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQlXrRPNV4[/youtube]
^^^This is the Pau Gasol that has something to prove, something to gain. The one we are seeing today isn't the same. He has no fire, no emotion, and no effort.

I wish everybody would just stop talking about the whole 3 finals run and 2 championships. IT'S THE PAST, I'm sorry to say this but take some of the Laker haters' advise and quit living in the past.


Oh give me a break, Phil was able to utilize Gasol better then anyone. NOT Brown, nor Dantoni. Is he older and not the same player anymore? yes, but thats like anyone aging in the NBA. He needs to be utilized the way he was in the those 3 years we made it to the finals. Haters arent living in the moment, they're just typical casual fans with their knee jerk reaction. Pau Gasol is still one of the best PF's in the NBA, he didnt just fall of the earth after 2010, he just been victim of morons who dont know how to use him.


So from what you said I guess Phil Jackson was a moron that couldn't utilize Pau in 2011. Since he had to literally yell at him and punch him in the chest to even get anything going for him.
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Re: Who Should Adjust? 

Post#8 » by BEazy » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:23 am

bigdong23 wrote:
Lakers-Texas wrote:Dude nobody is saying Pau had no part in the 3 finals run and the past 2 championships. The Pau we are seeing isn't the Pau we've saw during those championship runs.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQlXrRPNV4[/youtube]
^^^This is the Pau Gasol that has something to prove, something to gain. The one we are seeing today isn't the same. He has no fire, no emotion, and no effort.

I wish everybody would just stop talking about the whole 3 finals run and 2 championships. IT'S THE PAST, I'm sorry to say this but take some of the Laker haters' advise and quit living in the past.


and I wish you would actually pay attention to the video you posted. u see all these plays have Pau scoring within 10-5 feet of the basket. Theres a reason he not doing that anymore, and instead missing BS jumpers and in the mike brown era shooting 3's for god sake! your jokes , talking abt emotions passion. the games comes down to X's and O's and hes clearly not being put in the situation he was in this vid


Why is he scared to put the ball down and move up a little bit for a closer jumper? You got to adjust. Basketball is a game of adjustments. You are the player and the coach tells you what to do but sometimes that exact plan doesn't work out for the coach. It's all up to the player...The coach doesn't play the game, the players do.
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Re: Who Should Adjust? 

Post#9 » by bigdong23 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:26 am

Lakers-Texas wrote:
bigdong23 wrote:
Lakers-Texas wrote:Dude nobody is saying Pau had no part in the 3 finals run and the past 2 championships. The Pau we are seeing isn't the Pau we've saw during those championship runs.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQlXrRPNV4[/youtube]
^^^This is the Pau Gasol that has something to prove, something to gain. The one we are seeing today isn't the same. He has no fire, no emotion, and no effort.

I wish everybody would just stop talking about the whole 3 finals run and 2 championships. IT'S THE PAST, I'm sorry to say this but take some of the Laker haters' advise and quit living in the past.


Oh give me a break, Phil was able to utilize Gasol better then anyone. NOT Brown, nor Dantoni. Is he older and not the same player anymore? yes, but thats like anyone aging in the NBA. He needs to be utilized the way he was in the those 3 years we made it to the finals. Haters arent living in the moment, they're just typical casual fans with their knee jerk reaction. Pau Gasol is still one of the best PF's in the NBA, he didnt just fall of the earth after 2010, he just been victim of morons who dont know how to use him.


So from what you said I guess Phil Jackson was a moron that couldn't utilize Pau in 2011. Since he had to literally yell at him and punch him in the chest to even get anything going for him.



Oh here we go, typical casual fan. watching a few games in the playoffs thinking they can talk about bball. dallas was the better team that year, the ended up even beating the heat. u gonna say that was Pau's fault? Lol
watch these highlights you moron, there all inside which is his specialty, theres a reason you dont see him doing that anymore. It has to do with him not being able to play inside anymore like he use to due to coaching moves by brown and dantoni. Thats like telling LBJ not to drive inside, and just shoot jumpers and 3's = stupid.
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Post#10 » by BEazy » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:33 am

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Oh here we go, typical casual fan. watching a few games in the playoffs thinking they can talk about bball. dallas was the better team that year, the ended up even beating the heat. u gonna say that was Pau's fault? Lol
watch these highlights you moron, there all inside which is his specialty, theres a reason you dont see him doing that anymore. It has to do with him not being able to play inside anymore like he use to due to coaching moves by brown and dantoni. Thats like telling LBJ not to drive inside, and just shoot jumpers and 3's = stupid.


Yeah I'm done with you. Calling me casual fan is hilarious because I've probably watched more Laker games than your whole entire family. lol. It's nice that you can call somebody a moron but have nothing to say besides the same crap you said earlier. But cool, preach your 3 finals run and 2 championship run like Pau Gasol was the sole reason for those championships.
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Post#11 » by bigdong23 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:33 am

Lakers-Texas wrote:
bigdong23 wrote:
Lakers-Texas wrote:Dude nobody is saying Pau had no part in the 3 finals run and the past 2 championships. The Pau we are seeing isn't the Pau we've saw during those championship runs.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQlXrRPNV4[/youtube]
^^^This is the Pau Gasol that has something to prove, something to gain. The one we are seeing today isn't the same. He has no fire, no emotion, and no effort.

I wish everybody would just stop talking about the whole 3 finals run and 2 championships. IT'S THE PAST, I'm sorry to say this but take some of the Laker haters' advise and quit living in the past.


and I wish you would actually pay attention to the video you posted. u see all these plays have Pau scoring within 10-5 feet of the basket. Theres a reason he not doing that anymore, and instead missing BS jumpers and in the mike brown era shooting 3's for god sake! your jokes , talking abt emotions passion. the games comes down to X's and O's and hes clearly not being put in the situation he was in this vid


Why is he scared to put the ball down and move up a little bit for a closer jumper? You got to adjust. Basketball is a game of adjustments. You are the player and the coach tells you what to do but sometimes that exact plan doesn't work out for the coach. It's all up to the player...The coach doesn't play the game, the players do.

Bahaha another dumb response, Why is he scared to move in a lil bit. Dude hes a 7 footer! 7 footers dont drive like guard do all the way from near the arc to the inside. Theres a reason why. i hope i dont need to explain you this as well.
and your cliche line on adjustments, thats not even meant to be talking abt making adjustments to your game, most NBA players are pretty much the same kinda players they were from college just Get better and doing what they always done. This adjustments in basketball is more so on decisions and style of play such as going in side, playing up tempo etc.
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Post#12 » by bigdong23 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:38 am

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Oh here we go, typical casual fan. watching a few games in the playoffs thinking they can talk about bball. dallas was the better team that year, the ended up even beating the heat. u gonna say that was Pau's fault? Lol
watch these highlights you moron, there all inside which is his specialty, theres a reason you dont see him doing that anymore. It has to do with him not being able to play inside anymore like he use to due to coaching moves by brown and dantoni. Thats like telling LBJ not to drive inside, and just shoot jumpers and 3's = stupid.


Yeah I'm done with you. Calling me casual fan is hilarious because I've probably watched more Laker games than your whole entire family. lol. It's nice that you can call somebody a moron but have nothing to say besides the same crap you said earlier. But cool, preach your 3 finals run and 2 championship run like Pau Gasol was the sole reason for those championships.


Bahaha oh you goin soft huh? my bad i hurt your feelings. And its good to know you watch more games then my family hahahah i guess i wasnt wrong when i called u a moron after all.
and i only mentioned the 2-3 in my 1st message in the topic to begin with you clown.
telling me when u have something other then passion and phil punching gasol to bring up.
posting videos u dont even understand whats happening in them! hes playing inside you idiot!! thats why he was successful!
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Post#13 » by BEazy » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:38 am

:lol: , okay ballboy
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Post#14 » by diplan » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:39 am

When I saw the video I remembered the excellence of PAU ... We must also remember that in that days he play CENTER, when Phil put Drew at center .. his numbers start to fall... He still one of the best PF in the league.. but we also need to remember that he was one of the best CENTERS in the league one time.
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Post#15 » by bigdong23 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:41 am

Lakers-Texas wrote::lol: , okay ballboy


oh cuz i havent been on realgm forum as long as you that means something? lol
u actually posted a video proving my point hahahah
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Post#16 » by BEazy » Wed Dec 5, 2012 12:42 am

bigdong23 wrote:
Lakers-Texas wrote::lol: , okay ballboy


oh cuz i havent been on realgm forum as long as you that means something? lol
u actually posted a video proving my point hahahah
get outta here kiddo


That he was playing CENTER and you specifically called him a PF? Okay, ballboy.
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Post#17 » by durden_tyler » Wed Dec 5, 2012 1:12 am

Still Princess Pau all throughout these years. Phil Jackson's coaching just hid a lot of his weaknesses.
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Post#18 » by bigdong23 » Wed Dec 5, 2012 2:51 am

Lakers-Texas wrote:
bigdong23 wrote:
Lakers-Texas wrote::lol: , okay ballboy


oh cuz i havent been on realgm forum as long as you that means something? lol
u actually posted a video proving my point hahahah
get outta here kiddo


That he was playing CENTER and you specifically called him a PF? Okay, ballboy.


bahaha he's a PF , you just wrote what the guy said underneath your comment you noob u dont even have any original thought
to begin with bynum was and is a center you dumbass , he didnt just change his position.
find one time pau was slated as the center on the roster for the lakers. the answer is never
phil played him differently, the center position is not the reason that allowed him to get those shots inside
and btw, pf's historically play inside if you know anything about bball , the question of being center or pf has nothing to do with what kind of shot he was gettin cuz since both postions play inside and generally not shoot jumpers u clown
and ball boy? im wiping your ass in this argument kiddo u got nothing.
why dont u talk some more about passion lol jokes
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Post#19 » by LAKESHOW » Wed Dec 5, 2012 3:59 am

DAntoni needs to adjust. We have the best interior advantage in the league. We do not have that advantage in the other areas of our team. You wanna fix something, fix the other positions. 2-7footers. We shouldnt have to give up that edge to be successful. I bet phil jackson would take the team as is and be successful. Why cant DAntoni?
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Post#20 » by tysonironmike » Wed Dec 5, 2012 4:20 am

Man where are these idiots coming from? I almost thought this was the GB..

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