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Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 4:55 pm
by IamBBAnalysis
KB24TBOTB wrote:IamBBAnalysis wrote:ballaholick wrote:Kevin Love just fractured his hand, lakers should be on the phone with the Wolves, but who do the lakers ask for in return????????
No, he didn't. Its just a little sore so he's sitting out a game or three. He fractured his hand earlier in the year.
He re-fractured it
My mistake.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:00 pm
by IamBBAnalysis
ShowTimeERA wrote:RamonSessions7 wrote:ShowTimeERA wrote:3 team trade with NOH & Minny
LA incoming - Ryan Anderson & Kirilenko
LA outgoing - Pau Gasol
NOH incoming - Pekovic & D.Williams
NOH outgoing - Ryan Anderson
Minny incoming - Pau Gasol
Minny outgoing - Pekovic & D.Willaims
Wow, Pekovic, DWill, and Kirilenko for an all-time low value Pau
Assuming the reports are true that Minny values Pau, then yes. LA and NOH may have to add a few young pieces or eat Roy's contract. Pek is a free agent at seasons end (are they investing in him long term?) Assuming they pick up Kirilenko's player option, they have nearly $50M committed to 8 players excluding Pek next season. Pek can fetch anywhere from $10M - $12M in the open market. DWilliams is an afterthought seeing as his minutes continue to decrease. So in the end, the trade reads an expiring Pek plus Kirilenko for Gasol, a few extra young pieces (Ebanks & Henry) and LA absorbing Roy's contract. Does Minny value Gasol as much as its been said they do?
Ah, no. I understand you are trying to make it seem logical but its a biased trade in the Laker's favor. AK47 has more value as a player then Gasol. Williams is a player they likely do not care about but has some value around the league. Pekovic has tons of value (you see the stats he's putting up lately? Think 20/10), and the only reason they will consider trading him is because he will ask for a lot next season.
Sure, they may want Gasol but that is FAR too much. Minnesota fans at this point feel Pekovic alone is too much.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:28 pm
by desertlakerfan
I've been saying it since we got Howard, Pau and Dwight do not work well together at all. It has nothing to do with Pau being "done", but everything to do with Pau no longer being a capable NBA power forward. When you're 7 feet tall and slow of foot due to age/injuries you are either a center or you're about to retire. For some reason we've been playing this charade that Pau will somehow turn it around and be a viable PF in D'antoni's system, even trying to get him to "expand his game" and sit at the three point line. We need to wake up, and trade him before he loses anymore value.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 5:37 pm
by ROballer
desertlakerfan wrote:. We need to wake up, and trade him before he loses anymore value.
He has little to no value right now
We need to trade him because you can't justify benching a 19 mil player....I firmly believe we'd be a better team by starting Hill(albeit not by a whole lot but still) and not playing Gasol
Because 15-20 as a backup it's not gonna happen....it will be regular starters minutes or no minutes at all(huge longshot though,as I said,you can't justify benching 19 mil contract,even the way he is playing)
Addiction by substraction
Now,if we could get an above average piece or 2 average pieces to shore up some needs(backup PG,wing,another big maybe)for Pau I'd be thrilled,but his play made me lower my expectations by a lot
Re: Pau couldn't start for any team
Posted: Sun Jan 6, 2013 9:45 pm
by Jajwanda
semi-sentient wrote:Pau is bitching about the system to draw away attention from his atrocious defense, and people are eating it up by pointing out his short-comings on offense.
Exactly. The small ball lineup of without Pau in it is plus 40. Think about that, they're plus 40. With Gasol in there the same lineup (sans Dwight) is -12. The Laker's normal starting lineup is a plus 10. What does that tell you?
Gasol's defense at the 4 is a problem. It's the biggest problem.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 2:14 am
by Max Green
Bucks fan here, how about:
Gasol & Duhon for Ersan Ilyasova, Beno Udrih & Sam Dalembert.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 2:26 am
by Cashin out
Max Green wrote:Bucks fan here, how about:
Gasol & Duhon for Ersan Ilyasova, Beno Udrih & Sam Dalembert.
No.
Gasol/Morris for Jennings/Gooden/Dalembert?
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 2:40 am
by dockingsched
Max Green wrote:Bucks fan here, how about:
Gasol & Duhon for Ersan Ilyasova, Beno Udrih & Sam Dalembert.
i'd consider it, though i'm not sure ersan is living up to that long term deal. 8mil for 4 yrs may be a little too long for the lakers long term plans.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 2:46 am
by JohnVancouver
Pau for Rudy G and Pondexter - Grizz get a year less paying roughly equivalent salary (16m v. 19m)
and some heresy - bring back Ammo. he can hit the three, excellent passer, decent defender and works his ass off
There, I said it
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 3:07 am
by Baddy Chuck
dockingsched wrote:Max Green wrote:Bucks fan here, how about:
Gasol & Duhon for Ersan Ilyasova, Beno Udrih & Sam Dalembert.
i'd consider it, though i'm not sure ersan is living up to that long term deal. 8mil for 4 yrs may be a little too long for the lakers long term plans.
It's pretty tough to look through that past month but Ersan after being moved to the bench is putting up around 11 and 6 in only 20 minutes of play while shooting around 45% and over 50% from three. That's about a 17 game sample after his awful start.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 4:04 am
by Mamba Venom
I'd like to see Gasol as the back up center playing the 6th man role personally.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 5:14 am
by loveshaq786
Gasol and hill for nowitzki and brand?
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:25 am
by Vinsanity420
#RUMORED TRADE: Gasol, Bradley, Sullinger, Terry, picks to Kings; Thornton, Brooks, Hayes, Robinson to Lakers; Cousins, Garcia to Celtics.
Don't think it's legit, but something's probably in the works.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:29 am
by TyCobb
Lol!
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:32 am
by RamonSessions7
Vinsanity420 wrote:#RUMORED TRADE: Gasol, Bradley, Sullinger, Terry, picks to Kings; Thornton, Brooks, Hayes, Robinson to Lakers; Cousins, Garcia to Celtics.
Don't think it's legit, but something's probably in the works.
I agree with this part.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:47 am
by dockingsched
think it might be time for some jason mclaed rumors to start popping up cause this is ridic
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 6:51 am
by The Skyhook
Crazy how not too long ago Gasol had enough value to help net us Chris Paul without giving up Bynum.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:16 am
by Vinsanity420
dockingsched wrote:think it might be time for some jason mclaed rumors to start popping up cause this is ridic
If Laker fans are hoping for any better than a lottery talent and some bench scoring, they'll be disappointed.
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:21 am
by dockingsched
i'm referring to the trash offer the kings are expected to agree to. not just cousins, but #5 overall pick robinson and solid players in thornton, hayes, etc for what exactly? pau and still hurt bradley?
Re: Trade Pau pt. 3 - 'the hunt is onnnnn...!!!'
Posted: Mon Jan 7, 2013 7:56 am
by nashill
if +/- is accurate, lakers becomes a better team just by losing Pau (with the last 4 games as a refernce).
thortorn + brooks is 1000 times better than meeks+duhon
hayes is a serviceable backup small forward