RealGM

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmfdINmLntkUdEtkb0JQVVBtMTFUSzhZTTRFZDBMMmc

Kobe is scoring 1.12 points per possession (Best in NBA). 60% shooting (Best in NBA). 13% turnover rate.
Dwight is scoring 0.78 points per possession. 48% shooting. 20% turnover rate.
Pau is scoring 0.76 points per possession. 31% shooting (Worst in NBA). 11% turnover rate.

hmmm, interesting spreadsheet. hard to trust without some type of idea where it came from but...

confirms dwight as the 2nd most touches in the post behind al jefferson and he's the worst of all the players listed at 20% turnover rate....and wow pau has been miserable in the post at 31% shooting.


big men have been such a colossal failure.

dockingsched wrote:hmmm, interesting spreadsheet. hard to trust without some type of idea where it came from but...

confirms dwight as the 2nd most touches in the post behind al jefferson and he's the worst of all the players listed at 20% turnover rate....and wow pau has been miserable in the post at 31% shooting.


big men have been such a colossal failure.

Yes they have, the bigs in this era don't compare to the greats of the 90's

minge just pm'ed me the source, my bad for being completely oblivious to the truehoop in the title.

https://twitter.com/TrueHoop


anyway, now that this stat that was mentioned earlier by mike truddell is confirmed, dwight doesn't have a leg to stand on with his complaints.

check out this stat on pau:

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports

In the month of January Lakers are -76 with Pau Gasol on the floor

hm raw +/- stats can often be misleading but thats still pretty awful.

also those numbers do look accurate off the eye test - kobe, durant and melo in the top 3 makes a lot of sense.

We know Pau doesnt hold great post position on a consistent basis anymore and alot of these athletes bother him as he has lost a step. Man for this team to have beginning season 2010 Pau smh. But I expect Dwight to get better in the post as he gets healthier (and decides to play with effort) but as of now like we've all been saying he doesn't have any ground to debate that he isnt getting touches in the paint. It actually works against us to force feed him the ball in the post at this point (turnover or a bad shot attempt at the rim). Nash and Kobe at this point have to do all the leg work to get Dwight buckets at the rim. The lack of a dominant and consistent player who can attack the basket is lacking at this time do to the foot speed issue. Kobe cant dominate for +40mpg anymore why it doesnt make any sense to play this guy that many mpg

That's cause Gasol is paired with awful bench players.

Doormatt wrote:also those numbers do look accurate off the eye test - kobe, durant and melo in the top 3 makes a lot of sense.

Skill (the Hakeem of 2/3, he does all his work with his feet to get his shot or a foul)

Length (no one can challenge KD and he realized it much sooner than Dirk did and found a turn around)

Power (understatement really because Melo just bullies guys and its amazing to watch, stupid Dantoni)

... Seems about right when you watch them all post up. Thing is this team lacks a of to feed the post like Russ or Kidd. Kobe has to get the ball and post himself up or wait for Pau/Metta to get it to make the entry, breaking the seal.

I miss the triple post offense and the triple threat all together Kobe was bringing early the season when he was the dominant ball handler pre Nash return.

TyCobb wrote:That's cause Gasol is paired with awful bench players.

not really true actually

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... rder_by=mp

you can see that a majority of his minutes are spent with some semblance of the starting 5 and hes almost always on the court with kobe or nash.

kblo247 wrote: Thing is this team lacks a of to feed the post like Russ or Kidd. Kobe has to get the ball and post himself up or wait for Pau/Metta to get it to make the entry, breaking the seal.

I miss the triple post offense and the triple threat all together Kobe was bringing early the season when he was the dominant ball handler pre Nash return.

i see what u did there, you're good. props.

Is a fair criticism of Nahs and Dantoni. Nash has played with one post up guy before this team ... Shaq, which omplained Nash couldn't read post feeds and get the ball to him like Kobe. Dantoni has coached two post up guys, and he flat out quit over trying to integrate his system to work and maximize Melo or Shaq. Nash isn't used to feeding the post and he misses the easiest reads right when a seal occurs and either gets it to them late or needs another guy to make it.

Even tonight Kobe feeds real bigs better and is more adjusted to recognizing post play. Thank Tex Winters because he taught him well. The offense also flows much better with Nash off the ball as the primary with this kind of team, as Kobe dictating the flow has led to 5 more rings and 7 more finals than Nash's style has ... And it's still a better option than pick and roll with Nash has proven to be. Kobe is a triple threat. If you put him in the triple threat you can warp the flor and use Nash better as well. Nash becomes a lethal shooter and he actually has the ability to penetrate because his first step doesn't matter. Kobe draws the D and causes havoc, and then you wing it and Nash can shoot or put it on the floor when team defense is reacting and that's the way he can make them pay since Kobe will have already created the separation for him. Another benefit is defensive floor balance and the fact be it a 1/2/3 who Kobe takes on the box, they can't leak out and he will wear them down.