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Post#1 » by Kobe System » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:24 pm

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"I just looked at both teams and I felt like Houston was going in one direction -- they got a lot of young players, they got a good coach in Kevin McHale, and I just felt like having him as a coach, he could really help me in the post and help me develop like I want to," Howard said. "That was mainly the big reason right there, and having the opportunity to grow with a team, a young team, like the Rockets. That's the reason why.”

Howard believes the Rockets will give him his best chance to win a championship.

"That's the priority," Howard said. "That's the priority. S---, I'm betting $30 million on it. That's the priority. That's what I want.”


Do y'all think we keep him if we axed MDA? I understand he wanna play with a team he can grow with. Don't get me wrong, I don't like Howard. But I dislike MDA more. I still think we will win a ring before Dwight. :lol:
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Post#2 » by moonpie » Sat Jul 6, 2013 10:26 pm

If we brought in Phil he still would've left since McHale had way more post skills then Phil ever had :lol:
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Post#3 » by PandGneverfold » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:03 pm

I'm already tired of hearing from this guy. The reason he left no longer matters good luck in Houston. All that matters is lakers basketball.
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Post#4 » by Mr MoJo Risin » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:16 pm

Should had went to the warriors then.
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Post#5 » by crazyeights » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:25 pm

Is the jury out McHale? Is he actually a good coach?
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Post#6 » by TonyMontana » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:25 pm

@#$/ him.

Orlando remaped everything from G.Ms to cheerleaders for him and he bailed.

He's weak and he was more concerned about his rep and fame more than his legacy. It takes some mighty big nalgaz to step in the shoes of the past legends that have dominated his position and made this team and franchise what it is today.

Im mean look at his personal life. He has how many kids with how many women. He is very insecure and lacks common sense.
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Post#7 » by Mr MoJo Risin » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:28 pm

TonyMontana wrote:He has how many kids with how many women.


I believe he has 5 kids with 5 different women. I'm not too sure though.
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Post#8 » by iamworthy » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:29 pm

crazyeights wrote:Is the jury out McHale? Is he actually a good coach?


Not sure. But more than likely he will make it a priority to get the ball down low.
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Post#9 » by crazyeights » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:35 pm

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crazyeights wrote:Is the jury out McHale? Is he actually a good coach?


Not sure. But more than likely he will make it a priority to get the ball down low.


Mike D'Antoni's stock must be pretty low if McHale (6 playoff games coached) can override him. I hope we give Mike the damn team he's looking for and we just go for it. Might as well go all-in on something.
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Post#10 » by GeorgeDillion » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:35 pm

He wanted to go to a young team that he thought that he could have fun with and possibly win. The Rockets team is a young team that likes to clown around on the sidelines. I believe he said once during the season he was envious of the Clippers situation if so, so be it.

Young teams don't win championships and in the West you have a ton of obstacles, I'm just hoping we can regroup find some wing help and interior defense and become an obstacle for them as well.
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Post#11 » by Puffthemagic » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:45 pm

so...now can we finally get back to hating on pau for playing soft? honestly, I am glade he is gone. I just hope pi comes back. but looks like we ride MdA till the wheels fall off.
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Post#12 » by iamworthy » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:48 pm

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iamworthy wrote:
crazyeights wrote:Is the jury out McHale? Is he actually a good coach?


Not sure. But more than likely he will make it a priority to get the ball down low.


Mike D'Antoni's stock must be pretty low if McHale (6 playoff games coached) can override him. I hope we give Mike the damn team he's looking for and we just go for it. Might as well go all-in on something.


Its going to be real hard to justify MDA's job if the lakers fail to make the playoffs. Season ticket holders are not gonna have it. So if they fire MDA mid season or after next season people are going to wonder why they just didnt bring in Phil like D12 wanted.
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Post#13 » by crazyeights » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:54 pm

iamworthy wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
Not sure. But more than likely he will make it a priority to get the ball down low.


Mike D'Antoni's stock must be pretty low if McHale (6 playoff games coached) can override him. I hope we give Mike the damn team he's looking for and we just go for it. Might as well go all-in on something.


Its going to be real hard to justify MDA's job if the lakers fail to make the playoffs. Season ticket holders are not gonna have it. So if they fire MDA mid season or after next season people are going to wonder why they just didnt bring in Phil like D12 wanted.


Sure. But we should at least commit to something. One thing that bothered me about the Dwight situation is we obviously kept Pau as an insurance policy...now who knows what was out there, but if they had a chance to get a few shooters to sweeten the deal for Howard then you have to be mad at the Lakers lack of commitment to one direction.

I guess 2014 is their greater plan....I still say go hard in the MDA direction. Can't have the leadership vacuum of last year. Good thing is without Dwight, and Pau having the security of playing center and no trade talk, there won't be that problem from one of our core guys this season.
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Post#14 » by NOODLESTYLE » Sat Jul 6, 2013 11:57 pm

Houston just had a lot of convincing things to Dwight, and after putting everything into consideration, they basically rolled out the red carpet for him. The Rockets front office did a really good job to surround him with the help and parts that he wanted. With everything people have been saying about Jim Buss, it makes sense Dwight would leave for all those reasons already mentioned.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2 ... esh-start/

To Howard, no consideration meant more to him when he weighed his options this week than “championship potential.” He had been moved by the conversations with Hakeem Olajuwon and excited by the plan described by Kevin McHale. He said his private conversation with Rockets owner Leslie Alexander might have meant more than even all the talks with Chandler Parsons and James Harden. But the greatest issue, he said, was the chance to win championships.

Howard had gotten the feeling that in Houston, he would be welcomed to the club of great big men, from Elvin Hayes to Moses Malone, Ralph Sampson, Hakeem Olajuwon and Yao Ming. Olajuwon’s influence was especially crucial. Howard has worked with Olajuwon in past off-seasons and will again, and while he hopes to be able to mimic some of Olajuwon’s moves and success, he already had the impression down.

“It meant a lot, just having Hakeem show up from Jordan,” Howard said. “He’s a great guy. We’ve had opportunities in the past to get together. He’s been one of my biggest supporters. I really thank Hakeem. I trust his judgment. I trust a lot of things he says. He’s been good from the first day he talked to my mom and said he wanted to work with me. I would work out with him and he would do a move and I would do a move and instead of the hook shot, I would dunk it and he would jump up and down and scream and say, “Oooh, you do my move better than me. Dwight, you have to do this is a game.’ We would just laugh. It was so great to be around him.

“I’m looking forward to having him and Kevin McHale push me. When I sat down with Kevin, he reminded me a lot of the drive of Clifford Ray (a former Magic assistant coach) when Clifford rare was my big man coach. He pushed me to the limit every day and then I worked out. He always said, ‘I’m going to kick your (butt)’ and at the end of the day give you a hug.”
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Post#15 » by iamworthy » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:01 am

crazyeights wrote:
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Mike D'Antoni's stock must be pretty low if McHale (6 playoff games coached) can override him. I hope we give Mike the damn team he's looking for and we just go for it. Might as well go all-in on something.


Its going to be real hard to justify MDA's job if the lakers fail to make the playoffs. Season ticket holders are not gonna have it. So if they fire MDA mid season or after next season people are going to wonder why they just didnt bring in Phil like D12 wanted.


Sure. But we should at least commit to something. One thing that bothered me about the Dwight situation is we obviously kept Pau as an insurance policy...now who knows what was out there, but if they had a chance to get a few shooters to sweeten the deal for Howard then you have to be mad at the Lakers lack of commitment to one direction.

I guess 2014 is their greater plan....I still say go hard in the MDA direction. Can't have the leadership vacuum of last year. Good thing is without Dwight, and Pau having the security of playing center and no trade talk, there won't be that problem from one of our core guys this season.


It will be interesting because D12 wasnt the only person that had a problem with the offense, kobe did as well. So many unknowns right now. Hell I think Kobe had a problem with MDA's offense more than D12 did. At best I see Kobe and Nash sharing the ball handling. I just dont see kobe spotting up while Nash does his thing.
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Post#16 » by moonpie » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:03 am

NOODLESTYLE wrote:Houston just had a lot of convincing things to Dwight, and after putting everything into consideration, they basically rolled out the red carpet for him. The Rockets front office did a really good job to surround him with the help and parts that he wanted. With everything people have been saying about Jim Buss, it makes sense Dwight would leave for all those reasons already mentioned.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2 ... esh-start/

To Howard, no consideration meant more to him when he weighed his options this week than “championship potential.” He had been moved by the conversations with Hakeem Olajuwon and excited by the plan described by Kevin McHale. He said his private conversation with Rockets owner Leslie Alexander might have meant more than even all the talks with Chandler Parsons and James Harden. But the greatest issue, he said, was the chance to win championships.

Howard had gotten the feeling that in Houston, he would be welcomed to the club of great big men, from Elvin Hayes to Moses Malone, Ralph Sampson, Hakeem Olajuwon and Yao Ming. Olajuwon’s influence was especially crucial. Howard has worked with Olajuwon in past off-seasons and will again, and while he hopes to be able to mimic some of Olajuwon’s moves and success, he already had the impression down.

“It meant a lot, just having Hakeem show up from Jordan,” Howard said. “He’s a great guy. We’ve had opportunities in the past to get together. He’s been one of my biggest supporters. I really thank Hakeem. I trust his judgment. I trust a lot of things he says. He’s been good from the first day he talked to my mom and said he wanted to work with me. I would work out with him and he would do a move and I would do a move and instead of the hook shot, I would dunk it and he would jump up and down and scream and say, “Oooh, you do my move better than me. Dwight, you have to do this is a game.’ We would just laugh. It was so great to be around him.

“I’m looking forward to having him and Kevin McHale push me. When I sat down with Kevin, he reminded me a lot of the drive of Clifford Ray (a former Magic assistant coach) when Clifford rare was my big man coach. He pushed me to the limit every day and then I worked out. He always said, ‘I’m going to kick your (butt)’ and at the end of the day give you a hug.”


There's a lot of fluff there that sounds nice and dreamy...gee sure sounds similar to how we felt when we got Dwight last summer. But the honeymoon period will end and it will end abruptly I can guarantee you that. Soon we'll start hearing snippets like "We need to play as a team", "It's all mental with my free throws don't worry about it", etc...

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Any talk of Orlando being an anomaly is out the window. Dwight is who he is at this point. He's a tremendous defensive talent (when healthy and motivated), but brings lackluster offense and heavy baggage with him. The Dwightmare will return full force when he has his ETO in 2016, believe that.
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Post#17 » by crazyeights » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:04 am

iamworthy wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
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Its going to be real hard to justify MDA's job if the lakers fail to make the playoffs. Season ticket holders are not gonna have it. So if they fire MDA mid season or after next season people are going to wonder why they just didnt bring in Phil like D12 wanted.


Sure. But we should at least commit to something. One thing that bothered me about the Dwight situation is we obviously kept Pau as an insurance policy...now who knows what was out there, but if they had a chance to get a few shooters to sweeten the deal for Howard then you have to be mad at the Lakers lack of commitment to one direction.

I guess 2014 is their greater plan....I still say go hard in the MDA direction. Can't have the leadership vacuum of last year. Good thing is without Dwight, and Pau having the security of playing center and no trade talk, there won't be that problem from one of our core guys this season.


It will be interesting because D12 wasnt the only person that had a problem with the offense, kobe did as well. So many unknowns right now. Hell I think Kobe had a problem with MDA's offense more than D12 did. At best I see Kobe and Nash sharing the ball handling. I just dont see kobe spotting up while Nash does his thing.


One of Kobe's main problems was lack of Pau in the post, so now that should be adjusted. And one big difference between D12 and Kobe, is Kobe has the power to straight up not listen to MDA :lol:

I'm just hoping to see a team that's cohesive. Goes out and plays with heart for 48 minutes every single game.

Haven't seen a team with heart in these parts in a few years.
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Post#18 » by Kilroy » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:05 am

It's all spin...
His first comments were more telling.
When Howard says Age, what he really means is 3 more years of Kobe.
He couldn't handle the fact that as old as Kobe is, this is still Kobe's town. He thinks he can dominate Harden...
The clock is ticking on that team... If they give him enough rope Howard will run everyone out of town, if they don't he'll pout and demand a trade. It's inevitable.
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Post#19 » by moonpie » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:09 am

“It was on the Fourth of July,” Howard said. “That’s when I felt it was Houston. I was in Colorado. It seemed like every person that I met was from Houston. It was just so ironic. I’d walk around. Someone would ask for a picture. They’d give me a business card and it would say Houston on it. I was like, “Is everybody in Colorado from Houston right now?’ It was unbelievable.

“I was like, ‘You know what, this has to be from God.’ You pray for things to happen. You pray for signs, for God to show you things. It just seemed like, this was it.”


http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2 ... esh-start/

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Post#20 » by TonyMontana » Sun Jul 7, 2013 12:12 am

I think as far as management was concerned we !@#! ed up by hiring MDA over Phil. Thats a givin.

But as far as Dwight I think pretty much everyone including the fans knew that Howard wasnt going stay. Remaping everything from our bench to adding players to compliment Howard and letting MDA go and now your paying both Brown and MDA was going to be a hard for the managment to except.

We had no guarantees from Howard that he was going to stay. So I presonally believe even with Phil on board Howard was still going to bail. He wanted out of Orlando ASAP since he threw everybody under the bus. Lakers was just his ticket out until his F.A came up and he was going to use some lame asss excuse to do it. He knew what was expected of him and who he was going to play with.

Im sorry but unlike most Laker fans I had my doubts about Howard and at the end he did what I expected him to do.
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