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Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll

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Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#1 » by Dr Aki » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:43 pm

now that MWP is no longer a laker, what is the current lakers payroll?

$76,084,393 for 12 players, add $884,293 for minimum of 13 player roster

what is the luxury tax threshold?

$71,748,000

what mitch's aim this season? we're not trading kobe, we're not trading pau

cut $5,220,687 dollars. (not $5,220,686, because we still hit the threshold)

easiest way to do it?? shed that money either by trading nash or 2 of blake/hill/meeks. and sign minimum guys/take back minimum guys to replace them.

so guys, embrace yourselves for more cutting procedures in the near future
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Post#2 » by dockingsched » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:47 pm

i think if this was a priority the lakers wouldn't have used the mmle on kaman and would have just signed a vet min big man.
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~4.4mil off our payroll 

Post#3 » by GeorgeDillion » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:47 pm

Nash won't be traded and Meeks is basically making the minimum, Blake and Hill are the options.
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~4.4mil off our payroll 

Post#4 » by Dr Aki » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:49 pm

dockingsched wrote:i think if this was a priority the lakers wouldn't have used the mmle on kaman and would have just signed a vet min big man.


its a priority, not THE priority

THE priority is that we're not going to waste one of kobe's golden years.

but given the opportunity of being so close to the LT line, why not go a bit further and enhance our future flexibility?
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#5 » by stunnar0b » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:49 pm

I say pau gets traded before the trade deadline
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#6 » by ngcoolman » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:51 pm

I am not sure it is necessarily the priority otherwise, we wouldn't have used our MMLE. We are for sure below tax threshold after this season. In this case, we avoid the repeater penalty. This year few million over tax shouldn't pose a huge problem to us.
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#7 » by Dr Aki » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:52 pm

also note that if we get under that LT curtain, we benefit by getting additional payout from tax paying teams

see: brooklyn nets
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Post#8 » by dockingsched » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:57 pm

Aki wrote:also note that if we get under that LT curtain, we benefit by getting additional payout from tax paying teams

see: brooklyn nets


unfortunately each non-tax paying team receives a negligible 1.47 mil from lux tax payment this yr. most of the lux tax money goes to funding revenue sharing, and the lakers will always be givers not takers there, no matter what their payroll is.
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#9 » by Dr Aki » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:57 pm

money be money. save 6-7 mil, earn 1.5 mil. its so close, just do it...

the easiest possible way to do this would be to simply shed blake and hill

as much as we like hill, he's probably not going to be a part of future laker squads, he still has value that trading him for a TPE or a minimum contract won't be too hard.

blake is a bit tougher, he turned it on for the latter part of the season but still the wrong side of 30, but on an expiring deal? might prove tempting for a team looking to shore up the backup PG spot
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#10 » by kblo247 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:24 pm

I still say Blake and Hill won't be here to end the year definetly and Meeks is on thin ice

. Why would you keep Hill when you can have Kenyon and Lamar share the spot, and provide better play? Logically there's a reason hill hasn't logged more than 16mpg in his career on average, he gets hurt a bunch.

Then the fact is Blake hit chicken pox and played poorly year one, sucked year 2 and missed 2 months, missed half the season last year before playing well only to get hurt again in the playoffs? Why keep him when Farmar is cheaper and Sasha is available and defended PGs and played backup pg under Phil and will take the min?

Same can be said about Meeks too. Why take the cap hit when Young is here for the min, Sasha can play his role too, and cdr would love a roster spot?

Farmar, Nick, Sasha, CDR, LO, and Kenyon while avoiding the tax is better than paying out 10mil to Meeks to be streaky and Hill and Blake to both get hurt.
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#11 » by dockingsched » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:31 pm

meeks isn't going anywhere in a salary dump. he makes the same of what it would cost to sign LO or kenyon martin for the vet minimum. as soon as you dump him you have to replace him on the roster to get back to 12, and you're replacing him with a similar salary.

edit: sasha for example would make 1.2 mil, meeks makes 1.5 mil. the savings just aren't there.
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#12 » by kblo247 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:37 pm

Doesn't the league pay half the vet min, as opposed to LA paying all Meeks salary?
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#13 » by tviper » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:44 pm

kblo247 wrote:Doesn't the league pay half the vet min, as opposed to LA paying all Meeks salary?


The league pays the difference between the minimum contract based on number of years in the league and the the minimum contract for a 2 year vet. So, for example, both Nick Young and Jordan Farmar have 6 seasons in the NBA so they will get paid 1,106,941. The amount for a 2 year vet is 884,293. So the lower amount is the number that goes on the books for salary cap purposes and the league pays the difference.
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#14 » by tviper » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Aki wrote:money be money. save 6-7 mil, earn 1.5 mil. its so close, just do it...

the easiest possible way to do this would be to simply shed blake and hill

as much as we like hill, he's probably not going to be a part of future laker squads, he still has value that trading him for a TPE or a minimum contract won't be too hard.

blake is a bit tougher, he turned it on for the latter part of the season but still the wrong side of 30, but on an expiring deal? might prove tempting for a team looking to shore up the backup PG spot


I don't see any reason to make a trade now. Sign maybe one more minimum contract, and then see how the team gels. If they get out to a bad start, and/or if KB24 can't go right away, the FO can explore trades at the deadline. The calculation for salary cap purposes is the last day of the regular season, so many moves can be made at the deadline if need be.
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Post#15 » by kblo247 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:47 pm

Aw thanks.
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Post#16 » by crazyeights » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:16 am

tviper wrote:
Aki wrote:money be money. save 6-7 mil, earn 1.5 mil. its so close, just do it...

the easiest possible way to do this would be to simply shed blake and hill

as much as we like hill, he's probably not going to be a part of future laker squads, he still has value that trading him for a TPE or a minimum contract won't be too hard.

blake is a bit tougher, he turned it on for the latter part of the season but still the wrong side of 30, but on an expiring deal? might prove tempting for a team looking to shore up the backup PG spot


I don't see any reason to make a trade now. Sign maybe one more minimum contract, and then see how the team gels. If they get out to a bad start, and/or if KB24 can't go right away, the FO can explore trades at the deadline. The calculation for salary cap purposes is the last day of the regular season, so many moves can be made at the deadline if need be.


This. People are expecting us to throw in the towel a bit too soon. It's uncharacteristic. We have time to let the season unfold.

Also not sure why this board all of a sudden believes Jordan Hill is expendable. Every team needs a garbage man, high-energy big. Plus he can play next to Pau or with an uptempo second unit. MDA's system or not. (You're gonna see his 18 footer is solid, btw).
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#17 » by AdonisDeMarion » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:18 am

why does it matter, he did good enough already
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#18 » by Dr Aki » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:01 am

crazyeights wrote:
tviper wrote:
Aki wrote:money be money. save 6-7 mil, earn 1.5 mil. its so close, just do it...

the easiest possible way to do this would be to simply shed blake and hill

as much as we like hill, he's probably not going to be a part of future laker squads, he still has value that trading him for a TPE or a minimum contract won't be too hard.

blake is a bit tougher, he turned it on for the latter part of the season but still the wrong side of 30, but on an expiring deal? might prove tempting for a team looking to shore up the backup PG spot


I don't see any reason to make a trade now. Sign maybe one more minimum contract, and then see how the team gels. If they get out to a bad start, and/or if KB24 can't go right away, the FO can explore trades at the deadline. The calculation for salary cap purposes is the last day of the regular season, so many moves can be made at the deadline if need be.


This. People are expecting us to throw in the towel a bit too soon. It's uncharacteristic. We have time to let the season unfold.

Also not sure why this board all of a sudden believes Jordan Hill is expendable. Every team needs a garbage man, high-energy big. Plus he can play next to Pau or with an uptempo second unit. MDA's system or not. (You're gonna see his 18 footer is solid, btw).


start working on that term essay now, not with 1 week left to due date
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#19 » by leeprettyp » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:16 pm

http://www.lakersnation.com/after-metta-lakers-future-financial-situation-begins-taking-shape/2013/07/12/

Mark Heisler wrote a good article on this topic and what he's been hearing about the thought process
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Re: Mitch needs to shed ~5.22 mil off our payroll 

Post#20 » by Gek » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:38 pm

I say shedding $70-75 million already was pretty good.
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