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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/ian_thomsen/11/01/brian.shaw.lakers/index.html#ixzz2emLYJGQQ


This is a pretty long in depth interview with B.Shaw written by Ian Thomsen. B.Shaw doesnt seem to hold anything back from the ending of the Phil era to believing he was gonna be hired for the head coaching job here with the Lakers to how he even found out Mike Brown would be hired. He also speaks on different topics like how interviews went with other teams and how other coaches tried to pick his brain in regards to what it took to become a title contender

Here's an exert from the article

"I talked to him last week," Shaw said of Jackson. "I said to him, 'I never realized how many detractors you have out there.' Because when I go out on head-coaching interviews and if I mention the word 'triangle,' it makes general managers and owners cringe. They don't want to hear about the triangle offense, they don't want to hear about Phil Jackson. It was funny, even when I came here and I sat down with them, jokingly Larry [Bird, the Pacers' president] was like, 'I don't want to hear anything about that triangle bull----.' And that's kind of the attitude that everybody has."

In regards to the Mike Brown hire he even was fair about that decision

Shaw emphasized that he was not bitter that the Lakers chose to hire Mike Brown as coach in late May.

"If I'm playing devil's advocate on the way the situation went down, I could say, 'Well, they went out four-zip to Dallas so we need to do something completely different now,' " Shaw said. "At the same time, I can deal with the competition of another coach being hired instead of me. It was Mike Brown, and he has head-coaching experience, he's been Coach of the Year, he's taken a team to the Finals, he's coached a superstar [LeBron James in Cleveland], he's won a championship on the staff with San Antonio -- most of those things, the check goes in his box as opposed to mine. So I can accept that."

Also the best part about the article to me is how Ian Thomsen even went to the Lakers brass to get their opinions on various topics (Show's proper research was done for once on a topic. Good Job)

Told of Shaw's comments, Kupchak said he and the Lakers will always appreciate Jackson's 11 seasons.

"Phil and I have a great relationship -- I was with him two days ago and we sat down for an hour a week ago," Kupchak said. "We had been to seven NBA Finals and won five Finals with him, and this organization is eternally grateful to have had him as a coach.

"I don't know what you're referring to what took place in that meeting. I don't even want to speculate. ... Phil has been very, very good to this organization and city, and we are very, very grateful to have had him as coach. I consider him as a friend and somebody I owe a lot to personally."

Its pretty long but doesnt hold anything back. Whenever you guys get the chance to read this I'd recommend it because its a solid interview and article. Doesnt hold anything back. Lakers fans all wish B.Shaw the best in Denver... Just as long as it isnt ever better than the Lakers lol

Interesting, but this article is from 2011. For context's sake.

Whats wrong with a offense thats proven to win so many times ?!

Your right Crazyeights...But it definitely ties to the current situation thats going on with the Lakers team. IDK if i blame really either side or anyone for the decision to hire Brown over Shaw. Just more of the way the decision was relayed to Shaw. From a Kobe text. I just assumed that he found out from ESPN. I think it also shows the growth in Jim Buss. (he at least had Mitch call Phil a year later to tell him we were going with Mike D). I'm kinda intrigued what B.Shaw is gonna do in Denver offensive structure wise because thats far from a half court team

jellybean8 wrote:Whats wrong with a offense thats proven to win so many times ?!

I have no clue myself, the offense dates back to the mid 60's when it finally filtered it's way to the NBA.

It's a slow paced, hard to learn, restrictive offense that virtually handcuffs your personnel decisions for years.

But my impression was that much of the dislike of the Triangle was more about Phil... Phil just wasn't easy to get along with from an executive POV.

I also think many executives viewed the Triangle as nothing more than a marketing gimmick Phil used to build his fame. I think people thought you could pretty much tell Kobe and Shaq to go out there and improvise and win games.

Phil has success with it. Others like Jim Clemons and Kurt Rambis... not so much.

This team should be running triangle sets next season instead of D'Antoni's half ass offense. As long as Kobe and Gasol are on the team, its the only offense I wholeheartedly trust.

jellybean8 wrote:Whats wrong with a offense thats proven to win so many times ?!

It has beaten them.

The Laker Kid wrote:

jellybean8 wrote:Whats wrong with a offense thats proven to win so many times ?!

It has beaten them.

Perhaps its widely believed that it wasn't the success of the triangle so much as it was the amazing talent that orchestrated it. (not my view, I see it as a mix)

Keep in mind, that X's and O's of offenses are absolutely analysed to the death and what teams are looking for in a coach isn't so much the technicality aspect, but the outlook, attitude and vision. A good coach is a salesman, he should be able to sell a team into believing they are the best, or the selling the concept of never giving up.

Coming in for an interview and talking about something they already know about is not going to look upon them favourably.

CodyB_ wrote:

The Laker Kid wrote:

jellybean8 wrote:Whats wrong with a offense thats proven to win so many times ?!

It has beaten them.

Perhaps its widely believed that it wasn't the success of the triangle so much as it was the amazing talent that orchestrated it. (not my view, I see it as a mix)

Keep in mind, that X's and O's of offenses are absolutely analysed to the death and what teams are looking for in a coach isn't so much the technicality aspect, but the outlook, attitude and vision. A good coach is a salesman, he should be able to sell a team into believing they are the best, or the selling the concept of never giving up.

Coming in for an interview and talking about something they already know about is not going to look upon them favourably.

I just think it also had something to do with Phil's personality and the way he clashed with people in high positions. Jerry West. Jim Buss, Jerry Krause and even Jerry Buss were prime examples of this. The biggest difference with Jerry Buss IMO is he put his ego to the side for the betterment of the franchise and team. Phil and Tex are geniuses when it comes to the game of basketball. But sometimes the way you treat other people/peers goes A LONG way IMO