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So we have had Mr. Dantoni for almost an entire year now. Let this thread be dedicated to Dantoni. I'll start out with the good.

The Good: 28-12 last year after All-Star Break last year. Has this 13-17 Lakers team overachieving somewhat with their consistent effort and hard-work. Has allowed Nick Young, Wesley Johnson, and Jodie Meeks, and Xavier Henry to become respectful players in his system this year. Productive bench this year in his system.

The Bad: Say what you want but we lost a huge FA due to his system (I know he hated Kobe but he hated Dantoni more). Overplayed Kobe Bryant into a significant injury. Proceeded to play Kobe 30 + minutes after Kobe had not had a training camp, was out of shape, and had missed 8 months of basketball. Many people will debate if MDA is to blame for Kobe's injury. It's a toss up but I feel that their is some merit to MDA not being able to control Kobe which ultimately led to Kobe's injury/minutes as well as Kobe's relationship with Dwight.

The Ugly: We are 13-17. Our two primary players, Kobe and Pau, do not fit in MDA's system. We allow 103.3 ppg for opposing teams (28th in the league). 17th in rebounding. 17th in the league in team scoring with 99.3 ppg. Say what you want about our roster but you also have to look at how our coach uses our roster during games benching Kaman, Hill, W. Johnson, and others randomly throughout the year. Last year with a SUPER talented team we got our butts whooped due to our lack of defense and up-tempo forced style of play.

I understand the roster he has. I think he has got the team to overachieve somewhat. But I'm thinking long-term. My opinion is that we are wasting Dantoni's time as well as our own. Our roster cannot win under MDA unless we get rid of Kobe. We don't appear to be committed to this idea. Which is why I believe that MDA needs to go now or the end of the season. His system is meant for other teams such as phoenix, denver, or even golden state possibly.

Nonetheless. That last paragraph means nothing because it was my opinion. Please feel free to state your opinion in this thread of MDA. I am not here to bash anyone. Just felt that this thread is needed to hear other's opinions.

He won't be back after this season anyways. You can tell and he knows it.

well as for the ugly, what should we have expected with the crappy talent we have on the roster. Our best player is Nick freaken Young.

Desiderium wrote:He won't be back after this season anyways. You can tell and he knows it.

God please make it real!

If I were to give a grade, it'd be a big F simply because of his minutes with Kobe. He is probably the #1 to blame for Kobe's injuries. The minutes Kobe was playing in the second half of last season was ridiculous, I don't care how powerful Kobe is, you're the **** coach control his minutes.

myersla wrote:
The Bad: Say what you want but we lost a huge FA due to his system (I know he hated Kobe but he hated Dantoni more).

Cut out the other ridiculous stuff and will just address this part.

Dwight Howard his entire career has never been an impressive post scorer and had always been an elite pick and roll player. Mda's system was perfect for him. It's the same system he flourished with in Orlando.

That Dwight failed to understand or accept this is no one else's fault but his. The part that makes this entire thing more hilarious is that mda totally relented to Dwight and gave him the 2nd most post touches in the nba despite being on a team with Kobe and pau.

The cherry on top of everything is that he left for a team that is built around running the pick n roll.

And some fans want to blame mda and his system for this? C' mon

D'Antoni is in a can't lose position.

win = good

loss = not bad because team full of rejects, injuries, No Kobe, Kobe came back, Pau's a scrub, No Pau, No defensive players, No defensive anchor, Refs, Stern, the fans are bandwagonners.

Pop is the only current NBA coach who could have slowed Kobe's minutes. If we're grading MDA on curb, Kobe's injuries/minutes shouldn't be a factor.

We can only sign one max w/ Kobe's deal. I expect us to be deep if we're competing for a Championship the next two years. W/ a deep team, I would prefer the run+gun/7SOL than a traditional half-court system. For me, it comes down to rebounding and good outlets. Strong P+R/rebounding posts are a dime a dozen. Look at Plumlee. I don't think MDA is the problem. The problem is we just need more pieces.

On that note though, I'd love Lionel Hollins.

I am not a huge fan of his system or his antics but he has down a decent job with the hand he has been dealt... I still don't understand his need to have someone in the dog house but he has the team playing inspired ball... I don't think we are too many pieces away from being solid but the reality is Pau doesn't fit the system & we don't have a dominant point guard... This season is getting old... We need a trade... Wesley, Young, Hill, Meeks & Kaman are decent... Make it happen Mitch...

I think we need a coach who can tell Kobe "no". Dantoni can't do that. He is extremely intimidated by Kobe. I think Kobe would listen to Byron Scott. I know he isn't the greatest coach in the world. But what other options do we have. George Karl isn't coming here and honestly wouldn't be a lot of help. JVG is not coming here. Phil is the only one that would be a perfect fit but who knows if he can coach again with his health and age. I always thought it would have been interesting had we hired Adelman instead of Mike Brown.

I wanted to give this guy a chance but all the line up changes and all the shooting and no post play is just ridiculous. I mean when I said we needed shooters years ago I didn't mean JUST shooters and a scheme that promotes JUST shooting. I wanted a mix of in and out basketball. Post up and if that option is not there then kick that ball out to a spot up shooter on the perimeter. Not this crap of running a fast break and staying behind the 3 point line to shoot a ill-advised shot. And this team has absolutely no defensive discipline. I know that's not all of Dantoni's fault and some of it is on Kurt Rambis but he's the head coach and he has not done anything better than Kurt has.

I hope he's fired at the end of the season.

I would grade MDA between a C-D.

Pros

*Knows how to run an offense as compared to Mike Brown
*Out of TOs plays

Cons

*Making adjustments
*Need the right type of players for his system
*Playing Bigmen and argument with bigs

Regarding Dwight Howard:

*Dwight never wanted to be here.
*Him coming back early from back surgery is on him
*Isn't the MDA hire more on the FO and Buss since they didn't hire PJ? and Howard wanted him as HC. MDA system might of not fit well but Dwight was catered to play in the post despite stats showing he was better in pick & roll.


Kobe Minutes

*Has Kobe ever had a legit backup through out his career, cause PJ played him a lot as well.
*Dwight Howard is more responsible for Kobe's injury than anyone imo, he never gave him self to the team concept.

if dantoni's greatest success is landing the lakers embiid

im inclined to say, JOB WELL DONE

Anyone over 6'11 is not a fit for MDA system

Outsiders perspective... yes I watch the games.

You have a horrible defensive and rebounding team, yet you play Jordan Hill 14 minutes/game.

You've got a rotating door with Johnson, Young, Henry, and Meeks on the wings.

Shawne Williams?

Pau disgruntled. Hill disgruntled. Kaman disgruntled.

Fire D'antoni and hire almost any poster from this board and the Lakers be better.

I got lots of D'antoni hate.

Sweetninja wrote:Outsiders perspective... yes I watch the games.

You have a horrible defensive and rebounding team, yet you play Jordan Hill 14 minutes/game.

You've got a rotating door with Johnson, Young, Henry, and Meeks on the wings.

Shawne Williams?

Pau disgruntled. Hill disgruntled. Kaman disgruntled.

Fire D'antoni and hire almost any poster from this board and the Lakers be better.

I got lots of D'antoni hate.

Exactly, we get out rebound all the time and interior defense is non-existent. Yet the clown still insisting on running Pau at center and William/rookie at the 4 when we have Kaman and Hill chilling on the bench.

I never liked him. In fact I despise him. Thought he was a terrible coach in Phoenix and N.Y and when he was chosen by our front office I knew that he will drag this team down to the bottom.

His system is based on players that are fast up and down the court and quick on and off the ball, nothing else since his up tempo style of ball is not conducive with our lineup.

Then comes his defense. He is not a defensively minded coach. Never was never will be and we can all agree on that since we have one of the worst defenses in the league right now.

Unlike certain coaches out there his history of winning sucks just like his coaching. He doesn’t have any rings nor has he really ever come close to winning big games/playoffs etc.

He failed in Phoenix, and he failed in New York.

I do realize this team has faced some hardship with injuries but his small rotations and massive minutes have finally taken a toll on this team. Isn't that obvious.

And then comes his P.R with the Laker fans. #@$% him. He is a cancer that is eating away this team and I will promise you this. Once this D.B is fired by this team which is at the end of this year. Mike D' tonii will never ever coach in the NBA ever again. Maybe as an assistant coach but he will never be a head coach in this league. I can promise you that.

Fire MDA. Hire Byron Scott. Boom! Problem solved.