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Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstied
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:39 pm
by leeprettyp
http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/2220/summer-scoop-chicagos-next-stepBut here's the thing: You continue to hear rumbles that Bulls chairman Jerry Reinsdorf is adamantly against the idea of setting Boozer free via amnesty, even though the 32-year-old is finally poised to enter the final year of his contract, valued in 2014-15 at $16.8 million.
Sources briefed on Chicago's thinking say the Bulls are going to do everything they can to try to find a trading partner for Boozer before seriously considering the amnesty option.
Bear in mind that Chicago essentially has until July 15 to craft a deal that finds a new home for Boozer after a season in which he lost much of his fourth-quarter run to Taj Gibson. The NBA's amnesty window this summer runs through July 10-16.
(One bonus question we'll sneak in just in case Boozer does get amnestied: What are the odds his agent, Rob Pelinka, who also reps Kobe Bryant, urges the Lakers to put in a waiver claim for the former All-Star?)
Thoughts on Boozer to be added to the roster going into next season? But although he is a stretch PF he really isn't a run and gun big that Dantoni (if we really keep him). The idea isnt too bad in my opinion because it wouldn't hurt our 2015 cap space idea and helps field a good player for next years team. But dont expect great consistency from Boozer's play he's been really up and down with his performance in Chicago these last couple of years. But for what it will cost us the idea isnt to bad... Thoughts fellas?
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:41 pm
by Slava
Like I posted in the other thread, I'd trade for him and ask for a pick or two from Chicago to absorb his salary instead of making a waiver claim.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:42 pm
by pdub15
That would be a flat out NO!!!! Boozer's entire career he has over valued himself and found teams that will over pay him (Utah & Chicago). I would only sign if he would take the vet min.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:44 pm
by leeprettyp
We may not have to trade anything to get him. If there isnt a landing spot for the Bulls to trade him to that won't have them taking salary back so they can have a play for Melo. Then the GM and owner may not have a choice and just amensty him to get his number off the cap.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:44 pm
by leeprettyp
But then again the owner is cheap in Chicago from what I've read
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 4:58 pm
by LApwnd
Slava wrote:Like I posted in the other thread, I'd trade for him and ask for a pick or two from Chicago to absorb his salary instead of making a waiver claim.
this, benefits both sides. Chi owner is a cheap skate too, those later picks dont really do much for their team and they need to free up as much pure cap space as possible. Amenstying Boozer does elimnite his contract for pure cap but teams are only gona bid so much for boozer, Chi will still be on the hook for at least 80% of his salary as I dont see anyone bidding more than 3-5mill for his services.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:48 pm
by Dr Aki
surely a pick isnt worth more than 15 mil or whatever it is to amnesty boozer
i think if chicago were to go after melo, they'd have to find a way to let taj gibson go as well. id rather get taj gibson though
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:16 pm
by TyCobb
We should do whatever it takes to get as many draft picks as possible for this upcoming draft as long as it doesn't affect our salary cap for more than one season. Boozer fits the bill, so I'm in.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:35 pm
by Mamba Mentality
Vets minimum is the only way the we should even consider this as an option. Anything beyond that, I'll pass.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:36 pm
by Slava
Dr Aki wrote:surely a pick isnt worth more than 15 mil or whatever it is to amnesty boozer
i think if chicago were to go after melo, they'd have to find a way to let taj gibson go as well. id rather get taj gibson though
If the cap is about to rise, they won't have to if Melo takes a slightly small discount or they could try to dump Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:47 pm
by Dr Aki
Slava wrote:Dr Aki wrote:surely a pick isnt worth more than 15 mil or whatever it is to amnesty boozer
i think if chicago were to go after melo, they'd have to find a way to let taj gibson go as well. id rather get taj gibson though
If the cap is about to rise, they won't have to if Melo takes a slightly small discount or they could try to dump Mike Dunleavy Jr.
if the cap were to rise (to 63 mil), chicago would only have 16 mil to spend, and that's not including all the spots taken up by minimum cap holds, of which they'd have 4-6 depending on who they cut/keep, so they'd have less than 14mil capspace to lure melo
they move dunleavy, they won't even approach a max offer for melo, which starts at what? 22.5-23.5 mil?
they can't do it without moving gibson for nothing
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:52 pm
by pdub15
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:54 pm
by Slava
Dr Aki wrote:Slava wrote:Dr Aki wrote:surely a pick isnt worth more than 15 mil or whatever it is to amnesty boozer
i think if chicago were to go after melo, they'd have to find a way to let taj gibson go as well. id rather get taj gibson though
If the cap is about to rise, they won't have to if Melo takes a slightly small discount or they could try to dump Mike Dunleavy Jr.
if the cap were to rise (to 63 mil), chicago would only have 16 mil to spend, and that's not including all the spots taken up by minimum cap holds, of which they'd have 4-6 depending on who they cut/keep, so they'd have less than 14mil capspace to lure melo
they move dunleavy, they won't even approach a max offer for melo, which starts at what? 22.5-23.5 mil?
they can't do it without moving gibson for nothing
Yeah I was operating under the assumption that Melo would take a discount and did not calculate the cap holds properly.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:55 pm
by pdub15
Slava wrote:Dr Aki wrote:surely a pick isnt worth more than 15 mil or whatever it is to amnesty boozer
i think if chicago were to go after melo, they'd have to find a way to let taj gibson go as well. id rather get taj gibson though
If the cap is about to rise, they won't have to if Melo takes a slightly small discount or they could try to dump Mike Dunleavy Jr.
I think Gibson would be the guy they have to dumb. They would have to keep Dunleavy because he can spread the floor for Melo & Rose and his contract isn't a big enough salary to dumb.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:38 pm
by Dr Aki
pdub15 wrote:Slava wrote:Dr Aki wrote:surely a pick isnt worth more than 15 mil or whatever it is to amnesty boozer
i think if chicago were to go after melo, they'd have to find a way to let taj gibson go as well. id rather get taj gibson though
If the cap is about to rise, they won't have to if Melo takes a slightly small discount or they could try to dump Mike Dunleavy Jr.
I think Gibson would be the guy they have to dumb. They would have to keep Dunleavy because he can spread the floor for Melo & Rose and his contract isn't a big enough salary to dumb.
i dont see why we couldnt trade for taj and boozer, we have the capspace, and we would only demand maybe 2 1sts to do it
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:50 pm
by hazy_01
Absorb booz get bulls 1st rounder, sign and trade Pau to Griz/Thunder for theirs.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:59 pm
by LApwnd
Dr Aki wrote:i dont see why we couldnt trade for taj and boozer, we have the capspace, and we would only demand maybe 2 1sts to do it
I would think Chi would expect assets in return for Gibson, guy can ball and is a decent 2way player unlike Boozer.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:41 pm
by spree8
hazy_01 wrote:Absorb booz get bulls 1st rounder, sign and trade Pau to Griz/Thunder for theirs.
Can't trade Pau for 2014 picks since he's a FA.
I would do the deal for Boozer & both of their 1st rounders this year because the space we have isn't going to be used on any other long term deal so why not? If Mitch and Buss Jr don't bring back D'Antoni then even better because he doesn't fit the uptempo style.
I'd offer Pau a big 1yr deal or a 3 yr deal with next year being a TO. A Boozer/Gasol lineup isn't the best defensively, but they can out-rebound a lot of teams. Rebounds do have a significant affect on the game, so that could offset what they give up on D a little. They'd also have no problem scoring.
I could roll with Nash/Kobe/Boozer/Gasol (and a new coach) next year with a top lotto pick, as well as 2 more 1sts all while keeping a bunch of space next season to sign 2 max FA's.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:19 pm
by dockingsched
You can't absorb boozer AND sign pau to a big 1 yr deal, have to renounce pau to create the cap to absorb boozer.
Re: Lakers likely landing spot for Carlos Boozer if amenstie
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:35 pm
by jigga_man
Misleading title. Nothing in the OP suggests that Boozer is a likely for the Lakers if amnestied.
