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Doesn't everything still point to that veto? Everything that has happened...including what has happened in this free agency is a direct result of that stern veto.

No stern veto = no Nash pickup.

Cp3 \ Kobe duo means FAs and vets come here for cheap...not to the clippers....

Without that veto we have more assets and more reasons for big free agents to come here...

It does and it sucks. But we really need to move on and not suffer through bringing this topic up anymore. What if and could have happened situations are endless. We might as well live in the present from now on and hope that we will get to the promise land again in the near future.

Gotta move on from that stain in Lakers history fellas. Nothing we can do about it now.

Cp3 turned into Howard who then turned into Randle. that's how im trying to look at it at least.

the way i look at it is that i dont even like cp3 or howard

It's an absolute fact that our team would have a core of Paul-Bryant-Howard if Stern didn't veto that trade. That veto set this franchise back almost 10 years. What's most pathetic about that nixed trade is that Dan Gilbert was the one who who cried to the Comish because he was jealous of these super teams forming. 3 years later, his team has LeBron, Wiggins, and Irving---how laughable.

Props to Mitch for not going down without a fight though...still acquired Howard and Nash while keeping Pau after Paul was blocked from the Lakers. We were screwed either way, but kudos to Mitch for trying to field a championship team after that mess.

KobeKenobi wrote:Doesn't everything still point to that veto? Everything that has happened...including what has happened in this free agency is a direct result of that stern veto.

No stern veto = no Nash pickup.

Cp3 \ Kobe duo means FAs and vets come here for cheap...not to the clippers....

Without that veto we have more assets and more reasons for big free agents to come here...

Yes it does, and even thought we as fans have let it go it's still affecting us on that court.

This year some reporter wrote a great piece on how that affected not only the Lakers but about half the NBA. He pointed out in detail how it went. I'm gonna see if I can find it again and post it, it's a good read.

Would love to read it.

get over it. The Lakers have gotten over it and so shoud we.

DEEP3CL wrote:

KobeKenobi wrote:Doesn't everything still point to that veto? Everything that has happened...including what has happened in this free agency is a direct result of that stern veto.

No stern veto = no Nash pickup.

Cp3 \ Kobe duo means FAs and vets come here for cheap...not to the clippers....

Without that veto we have more assets and more reasons for big free agents to come here...

Yes it does, and even thought we as fans have let it go it's still affecting us on that court.

Last year some reporter wrote a great piece on how that affected not only the Lakers but about half the NBA. He pointed out in detail how it went. I'm gonna see if I can find it again and post it, it's a good read.

Would like to read that Deep

EArl wrote:get over it. The Lakers have gotten over it and so shoud we.

Have they?

Tiesto_Lakers wrote:It's an absolute fact that our team would have a core of Paul-Bryant-Howard if Stern didn't veto that trade. That veto set this franchise back almost 10 years. What's most pathetic about that nixed trade is that Dan Gilbert was the one who who cried to the Comish because he was jealous of these super teams forming. 3 years later, his team has LeBron, Wiggins, and Irving---how laughable.

Props to Mitch for not going down without a fight though...still acquired Howard and Nash while keeping Pau after Paul was blocked from the Lakers. We were screwed either way, but kudos to Mitch for trying to field a championship team after that mess.

Agreed...

EArl wrote:get over it. The Lakers have gotten over it and so shoud we.

i recall Mitch complaining about it not too long ago

snaquille oatmeal wrote:

EArl wrote:get over it. The Lakers have gotten over it and so shoud we.

i recall Mitch complaining about it not too long ago

mitch should get over it then. Complaining about it is not going to do us any good.

leeprettyp wrote:

DEEP3CL wrote:

KobeKenobi wrote:Doesn't everything still point to that veto? Everything that has happened...including what has happened in this free agency is a direct result of that stern veto.

No stern veto = no Nash pickup.

Cp3 \ Kobe duo means FAs and vets come here for cheap...not to the clippers....

Without that veto we have more assets and more reasons for big free agents to come here...

Yes it does, and even thought we as fans have let it go it's still affecting us on that court.

Last year some reporter wrote a great piece on how that affected not only the Lakers but about half the NBA. He pointed out in detail how it went. I'm gonna see if I can find it again and post it, it's a good read.

Would like to read that Deep

Here it is LPP.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken ... rberations

Count'em 14....14 teams were engulfed in that massacre one way or another...

Boston Celtics, Brooklyn Nets, Dallas Mavericks, Houston Rockets, Los Angeles Clippers, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami Heat, Milwaukee Bucks, New Orleans Pelicans, New York Knicks, Oklahoma City Thunder, Orlando Magic, Philadelphia 76ers, Phoenix Suns,

the way I look at it is **** David Stern

DEEP3CL wrote:

leeprettyp wrote:

DEEP3CL wrote:Yes it does, and even thought we as fans have let it go it's still affecting us on that court.

Last year some reporter wrote a great piece on how that affected not only the Lakers but about half the NBA. He pointed out in detail how it went. I'm gonna see if I can find it again and post it, it's a good read.

Would like to read that Deep

Here it is LPP.....

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken ... rberations

thanks deep. damn. hadnt realized the impact of that veto. we would definitely be in a very different situation.

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The dark ages of the Lakers have arrived once again. I'm just glad we don't have Smush Parker this time around... Always a silver lining, guys.

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What Veto?