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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2133 ... rogramming

Great article highlighting how some fans are spoiled and are impatient and just want us to throw contracts at players etc.

Here are some quotes. A bit long So I wont post it all here.

The Lakers missed the playoffs for just the third time in the past 38 years—with 10 NBA championships in that time and six other NBA Finals appearances in that period. Lakers fans don't know what to make of this world in which they have been asked to accept mediocrity. They don't know that rebuilding usually takes time and a little unforeseen good fortune.

They are spoiled rotten.

Again, it's only a byproduct of the parenting. Over the years, the Lakers have given their fans every reason to grow comfortable with a certain standard of living.

But with happy days gone and not on the horizon, fans are already frustrated.

Los Angeles' acquisition of Carlos Boozer on Thursday prompted the latest toy-throwing tantrum by fans of wanting to win now-now-now!

In Boozer, the Lakers got a solid NBA player for a below-average salary—a bid of $3.25 million, per ESPN.com's Marc Stein—in an honest attempt to win more next season.

Yet the move was greeted with a chorus of criticism in some quarters of Lakers fandom, claiming that anyone another club is paying not to play for it is just embarrassing. It's beneath the royal Lakers to add another team's castoffs, as it was unseemly to let the Houston Rockets use them as a Jeremy Lin salary-dumping ground—even if the move netted the guaranteed profit of a free first-round pick.

I never know if Ding is a real fan scorned or an imported troll who got a job in LA.

Ding never says anything critical of the Lakers or Kobe and that's his angle. That could also be a reason why he was pretty close to Phil & Kobe, atleast in his OC Register days.

the only bad thing about this boozer signing is imo it makes it look like that the FO rushed a lil bit on the Hill signing.

randle will be the priority next year. if he's got it, why should we worried about boozer? no one will stop him on this team from playing, he'll be the priority and he'll get his chances, but at a certain point he'd have to earn his place here too.

Question to ask.....how do these writers know what LA fans are thinking if they're not reading these message boards ?

I know for a fact they read these boards on many different sites, how else can they form their opinions ?

They don't know that rebuilding usually takes time and a little unforeseen good fortune.

The fans that are upset right now are the ones that understand rebuilding to contend takes time, and are pissed that we are making moves a team who is content making the playoffs would make. Trying to "make the playoffs" as your best case scenario when you have a pick that is only top 5 protected is frankly idiotic. It's a move a team desperate to hold onto fans makes, not one a organization like the Lakers should stoop to.

It's why the Hill and Young signings were questionable moves, and why picking up Boozer was a bad decision even if it was for a great price. At least with Lin we got draft picks, the other moves just make it more likely we'll be giving the Suns our possible lotto pick next year.

We need to tank this year to improve our assets, either to develop our own young talent or(more than likely) package it to bring a proven star to LA down the line. I know there are a lot that will disagree, but imo after the Melo plan fell through we should be fully focused on tanking.

DEEP3CL wrote:Question to ask.....how do these writers know what LA fans are thinking if they're not reading these message boards ?

I know for a fact they read these boards on many different sites, how else can they form their opinions ?

I could have Ding confused with someone else but I believe he posts on Lakersground.net. It really has to be through reading these message boards and Twitter. All you had to do was search "Boozer" on Twitter and all the tweets that had "Boozer" in them would pop up. I bet there were a ton of fans that voiced their displeasure on twitter upon hearing the news.

desertlakerfan wrote:The fans that are upset right now are the ones that understand rebuilding to contend takes time

Not true, Ding can't base his assumptions on every fan. I for one have seen this now being 3 times with the Lakers. It's the fans who just want to see championships every season and be bandwagon types....those are the one's who are pissed.

desertlakerfan wrote: Trying to "make the playoffs" as your best case scenario when you have a pick that is only top 5 protected is frankly idiotic.

No what's idiotic is guys thinking a team with a Kobe Bryant on it will tank while he's in uniform. Did this last season and lottery not show guys anything ? Did they not learn from it ? The odds of attaining the #1 picks are leveled down to a remote chance. There is no chance in hell the Lakers finish with the 5 worst record as long as Kobe is in uniform. And again guys are making too much of the draft. Even with this past draft there were only 3 sure fire number 1's that were ready now and we luckily got one.

From watching summer league everyday most of these picks haven't been that dominate for long stretches. Short burst yeah and most have struggled...look at Exum now ?

desertlakerfan wrote:It's why the Hill and Young signings were questionable moves, and why picking up Boozer was a bad decision even if it was for a great price.

Those moves weren't questionable, don't get sucked into the media propaganda. They think they have all the answers and they don't. And anyone questioning the Boozer move just shows they don't have an IQ for ball period. Business and basketball wise it was a sound move.

desertlakerfan wrote: the other moves just make it more likely we'll be giving the Suns our possible lotto pick next year.

Really who cares about a pick ? History in the NBA has proven you can't just build on the draft alone, I've seen teams try to do this and all they do is end up being a treadmill. And after looking at how the Suns completely floundered in the draft, who's to say they're gonna make a stellar choice ? Looking back on this draft and free agency, the analytics guys have been F'in up. Because they over think the got damn process.

desertlakerfan wrote:We need to tank this year to improve our assets, either to develop our own young talent or(more than likely) package it to bring a proven star to LA down the line.

Sorry but that's not going to happen. But I do agree with the process of developing our own draft picks. After 2017 we don't owe anymore picks to anyone, unless we make a deal in between that time that gives us a cornerstone type player.

desertlakerfan wrote: I know there are a lot that will disagree, but imo after the Melo plan fell through we should be fully focused on tanking.

Again odds won't allow it. You have to absorb and realize that to almost guarantee being in spots 1-4 you'd almost have to win 1-15 games. Even with the squad we got we're more than capable of getting that.

DEEP3CL wrote: Not true, Ding can't base his assumptions on every fan. I for one have seen this now being 3 times with the Lakers. It's the fans who just want to see championships every season and be bandwagon types....those are the one's who are pissed.

So the fans that want their team to win a championship every year are bandwagoners? Fans want to contend, and when we don't have a chance to and our pick is only top 5 protected we want a shot at using that pick. If not for the Nash trade I'd be 100% on board with giving this season a go after suffering through last, but suffering through last season got us Randle.

DEEP3CL wrote: No what's idiotic is guys thinking a team with a Kobe Bryant on it will tank while he's in uniform. Did this last season and lottery not show guys anything ? Did they not learn from it ? The odds of attaining the #1 picks are leveled down to a remote chance. There is no chance in hell the Lakers finish with the 5 worst record as long as Kobe is in uniform. And again guys are making too much of the draft. Even with this past draft there were only 3 sure fire number 1's that were ready now and we luckily got one.

From watching summer league everyday most of these picks haven't been that dominate for long stretches. Short burst yeah and most have struggled...look at Exum now ?

Ever consider one of the reasons why Kobe was completely overpaid(other than a lifetime achievement contract) was that he agreed the next two years could likely be tanking seasons? He would never admit to it in public, but it makes perfect sense that a good portion of that 48 million he'll be making over this year and next are to play nice in the media if we can't contend. It really makes no sense to have him as the highest paid player in the league if we're trying to contend, and he's still my favorite player. When his deal comes up in 2016 and we hopefully have a chance at signing a big FA or two you can be sure Kobe will be up for taking a paycut then.

Whether or not the pick works out a lotto pick is a asset, a much needed asset when trying to rebuild. One that we won't have if we put together a middling team just to feel good about winning some games.

DEEP3CL wrote: Those moves weren't questionable, don't get sucked into the media propaganda. They think they have all the answers and they don't. And anyone questioning the Boozer move just shows they don't have an IQ for ball period. Business and basketball wise it was a sound move.

It's questionable because we can't realistically contend with this roster and our pick is top 5 protected.

DEEP3CL wrote: Really who cares about a pick ? History in the NBA has proven you can't just build on the draft alone, I've seen teams try to do this and all they do is end up being a treadmill. And after looking at how the Suns completely floundered in the draft, who's to say they're gonna make a stellar choice ? Looking back on this draft and free agency, the analytics guys have been F'in up. Because they over think the got damn process.

Again, it's an high value asset. Assets are key to rebuilding.

DEEP3CL wrote: Sorry but that's not going to happen. But I do agree with the process of developing our own draft picks. After 2017 we don't owe anymore picks to anyone, unless we make a deal in between that time that gives us a cornerstone type player.

It'll be much easier to make that deal if we keep our pick this year.

DEEP3CL wrote: Again odds won't allow it. You have to absorb and realize that to almost guarantee being in spots 1-4 you'd almost have to win 1-15 games. Even with the squad we got we're more than capable of getting that.

We just need to be in the low 20s, although 1-19 would be ideal. There won't be nearly as many teams tanking this year with the east being wide open and not as many hyped up prospects. Right now the only one who is obviously tanking is the 76ers.