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Post#1 » by EArl » Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:57 pm

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point guard Steve Nash has been ruled out for the 2014-2015 season because of nerve issues, which is terribly sad and likely means the end of Nash's Hall of Fame career. The Lakers plan to apply for a disabled-player exception because of the injury, but head coach Byron Scott said he would welcome Nash remaining a part of the group, via the Los Angeles Daily News' Mark Medina:


[General manager Mitch] Kupchak said Nash will likely “decompress” for the next two weeks. But the Lakers would love Nash to help in a mentorship role, knowing the value his insight could provide after finishing with two NBA MVPs and finishing in third place on the league's all-time assists list through 19 seasons.

“I have some things in mind already if he would like to do that,” Scott said of Nash. “I would love to have him around. I think his expertise and experience could help a lot of our young guys."

Nash obviously has a lot to offer. He's one of the smartest players of his generation and his always-positive leadership style would be a good contrast to Kobe Bryant. If he wants to be a coach, there will be plenty of people willing to work with him.

It's unclear how Nash wants to approach things now, though, or if he wants to continue to be a part of an organization where he's had setback after setback in the last two years. Regardless of Nash's level of interest, publicly inviting him to stick around was a nice gesture from Scott.

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Post#2 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Oct 26, 2014 10:44 pm

While there has been talk about Nash staying on as a mentor or an assistant, Kupchak said, "I think he needs to get away."

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Let's hope this means getting away for just a couple of weeks.
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Post#3 » by dAdo dA dEvil » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:03 am

I hope he stays as a mentor. I know he could teach Lin and Clarkson a lot about playing that PG spot.
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Post#4 » by Exodus » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:15 am

Kobe can be kind of rough. Nash is another legend and respected player by the masses. His approach by be a nice balance with Kobe like Fisher did previously.
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Post#5 » by Kabookalu » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:13 am

He can help Jeremy Lin turn into a 2 time MVP.
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Post#6 » by kblo247 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:18 am

Choker wrote:He can help Jeremy Lin turn into a 2 time MVP.

Not unless if there is another palace brawl situation.

Nash's MVP was as much about --edit-- the league image and erasing the thug culture as anything. They had that brawl, put in dress codes, promoted the hell out of Nash and didn't even crucify him for underachieving and never accomplishing anything. There's a reason he's the only MVP that's never played a finals game besides Rose and doesn't have the I've been hurt reasoning. He never deserved it.
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Post#7 » by Kabookalu » Mon Oct 27, 2014 6:21 am

kblo247 wrote:Not unless if there is another palace brawl situation.

Nash's MVP was as much about about --edit-- the league image and erasing the thug culture as anything. They had that brawl, put in dress codes, promoted the hell out of Nash and didn't even crucify him for underachieving and never accomplishing anything. There's a reason he's the only MVP that's never played a finals game besides Rose and doesn't have the I've been hurt reasoning. He never deserved it.


Wowzers you really believe Nash only won it because he was white? Eek.




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Post#8 » by kblo247 » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:07 am

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kblo247 wrote:Not unless if there is another palace brawl situation.

Nash's MVP was as much about whitening up the league image and erasing the thug culture as anything. They had that brawl, put in dress codes, promoted the hell out of Nash and didn't even crucify him for underachieving and never accomplishing anything. There's a reason he's the only MVP that's never played a finals game besides Rose and doesn't have the I've been hurt reasoning. He never deserved it.


Wowzers you really believe Nash only won it because he was white? Eek.

He could play, was an all star, but he wasn't close to the leagues best player in any year of his career. He never even made his teams truly elite at the level the label MVP suggests which means playing for championships.

If there wasn't that brawl which scared advertising and patrons, there wouldn't have been this massive need for a dress code or censorship. He got promoted not because he won, which he didn't ultimately. He got promoted not because he cared oh so much about winning, he didn't and he made that clear when he inked up with sarver who was selling picks and letting guys go for his paper, same way he cashed free checks here. Nash got promoted largely because of how he looked in ration to how he played. He was an all star, but he by no means was this revolutionary superstar who made a team a title threat, if he could do that, he would have been in a finals game before in his life. And don't tell me but the Amare suspension when he admittedly oversold it and that cost his team for him being a dumbass.

Hell Nash isn't even a top 4 pg of the modern post Magic yet has those Mvps. And before you ask I'm not saying saying CP is either, that's another failure story. I personally have Stockton, Kidd, Payton, and Parker ahead of him. Stockton played into his old age at a level play ail that Nash has shown he clearly can't match and led his squad to back to back finals and yearly playoff seeds. Kidd took the nets from the lotto to b2b finals, was a triple double guy, defended the hell out of his spot, and in his old age he still was playing d, running a team, and shooting to the point he was a key piece to a championship team. Payton was the best defensive one there was, led the sonics to the finals, helped la, and unlike Nash humbled himself late in a bench role whereas Nash expected to start when he pleased and skip games. And lastly Parker, the guy who beat the suns ass, won 4 titles, has a finals MVP, and is a perennial all star.

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We can sugar coat things but the fact is he got a perfect storm of things to happen. And yes the league and press is easier on white guys, case and point Love not getting half the **** black guys like Al or ZBO or AbdurRahim or Brand would get for that losing and stat padding because of how he looks. It's just how things are, they are portrayed as an anomaly to the myth white guys can't jump or are just stand still shooters like Kerr, which shields them from being run down like the predominant black guy who puts up similar numbers and gets similar poor results. Just how the cookie crumbles
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Re: Byron Scott open to having Nash around to mentor 

Post#9 » by Kabookalu » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:19 am

kblo247 wrote:He could play, was an all star, but he wasn't close to the leagues best player in any year of his career. He never even made his teams truly elite at the level the label MVP suggests which means playing for championships.

If there wasn't that brawl which scared advertising and patrons, there wouldn't have been this massive need for a dress code or censorship. He got promoted not because he won, which he didn't ultimately. He got promoted not because he cared oh so much about winning, he didn't and he made that clear when he inked up with sarver who was selling picks and letting guys go for his paper, same way he cashed free checks here. Nash got promoted largely because of how he looked in ration to how he played. He was an all star, but he by no means was this revolutionary superstar who made a team a title threat, if he could do that, he would have been in a finals game before in his life. And don't tell me but the Amare suspension when he admittedly oversold it and that cost his team for him being a dumbass.


I can't believe there's actually someone that believes in all of this. Nash did make his team into a championship threat. All of the Suns' problems were always out of his control. Their legendary offenses remained legendary even against the elite defensive teams in the league. Their problem was always defense and rebounding. A lot of their games came down to the wire and were decided by the Suns not being able to grab a key rebound or make a defensive stop. I actually don't think the Suns were robbed of a title in 07 because they'd still have suffered the same problems even without the suspensions; porous rebounding and defense thanks to Amare Stoudemire. The Spurs would have edged them out eventually if it happened to go 7 games.

It's actually amazing they've went as far as they did despite being bad to mediocre at two of the most critical aspects of winning basketball.

And Nash remained with the Suns because he was competitive. He said it himself he's the guy that wants to beat everyone, not join everyone and form superteams; that would diminish the reward of a championship if he were to ever get one. You're really demonizing him for not doing what everyone else was doing and jumping ship to better pastures?




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Post#10 » by ChokeFasncists » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:36 am

I dunno if your theory holds any water but one must remember that it's MVP for the regular season, not post season; and the Suns did have the best record in 04-05.
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Post#11 » by Sofa King » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:01 am

Choker wrote:
kblo247 wrote:Not unless if there is another palace brawl situation.

Nash's MVP was as much about whitening up the league image and erasing the thug culture as anything. They had that brawl, put in dress codes, promoted the hell out of Nash and didn't even crucify him for underachieving and never accomplishing anything. There's a reason he's the only MVP that's never played a finals game besides Rose and doesn't have the I've been hurt reasoning. He never deserved it.


Wowzers you really believe Nash only won it because he was white? Eek.


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Post#12 » by LApwnd » Mon Oct 27, 2014 4:37 pm

get away and stay away...F the mentoring crap....you guys think Nash gives a F#@%? He wanted to come back this season for his own pride/ego not the team. He could careless about Lin or Clarkson development.
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Post#13 » by BEazy » Mon Oct 27, 2014 7:25 pm

That's nice, just do something for us.
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Post#14 » by Mamba Venom » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:07 pm

Kupcheck said in an interview he thought it was a bad idea for Nash to be around basketball for a while. I don't think Nash will be around much.
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Post#15 » by BEazy » Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:59 pm

Wish I had 30 million dollars just to throw away...
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Post#16 » by LApwnd » Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:05 pm

ScHoolBoy B wrote:Wish I had 30 million dollars just to throw away...


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Post#17 » by So Gutta » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:23 am

So everyone is cool with Nash just hanging at his house while being paid $10 million? :dontknow:

I see no reason why he couldn't help teach our young guards some things. If he doesn't, then he's just basically stealing money by not "retiring." Not sure why the Lakers would be cool with him just sitting at home all day :sleep: .
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Post#18 » by dipstick » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:03 am

Will the Lakers be able to cash in on any insurance due to being out for the season? If so, maybe they saw how fragile Nash still is and just forced him to retire to at least be able to get some cash back.
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Post#19 » by baki » Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:59 am

Choker wrote:He can help Jeremy Lin turn into a 2 time MVP.


I usually stay out of the Lakers forum out of respect but this is ridiculous.

It's just as ridiculous as saying that Nash only won his MVPs because the league was long due for a short, white long shot winner.
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Post#20 » by LApwnd » Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:48 pm

dipstick wrote:Will the Lakers be able to cash in on any insurance due to being out for the season? If so, maybe they saw how fragile Nash still is and just forced him to retire to at least be able to get some cash back.


insurance is gona pay the money anyways.

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