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DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:36 pm
by Sofa King
Not with this team. Way to go B-Scott. Mike D'antoni had better defensive teams than this. :lol:

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Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 2:41 pm
by Dr Aki
we're just going to have to be more raptors than kings

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:59 pm
by Mirjalovic
He's one of the greatest tank commander if not the best..

im sorry Phoenix Suns !

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:10 pm
by Kobe System
Dr Aki wrote:we're just going to have to be more raptors than kings


I'd rather be Kings. #Lottery

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:21 pm
by ardee
I really hope he lasts the season and we fire him the instant we draft Okafor or Towns. Don't need his poisonous hands screwing up our future

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Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 8:45 pm
by Father Time
It seemed like a lot of people were high on him before the season started. How quickly things change haha.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:43 pm
by Mamba Mentality
Who was high on Byron Scott? I thought the general consensus amongst Laker fans was that he was nothing more than an average coach at best. The signing had more to do with his affiliation with the franchise rather than his coaching expertise.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:32 pm
by SlimShady83
Should have gone with George Karl. The dude was able keep Payton/Kemp under control most of the time, he'll be able to handle Kobe.


Majority of people were rooting for Scott on this forum - If I remember correctly.

I think thought due to the loss of Randle for the years, the Lakers probably decided to tank and get top 5 pick :)
If this happens I"m hoping for a good recovery from Randle:) will be a fun team next year if all healthy.

maybe time to change my sig.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:51 pm
by John Long
Not even sure this team will be able to squeeze out 17 wins like the Kings did, just sad

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:47 am
by MAMBAEMD
Is this a thread about Laker's defense or about B. Scott as a coach?
I do believe he is an averge coach at best, but the Laker's defensive woes really have nothing to do with B. Scott in my opinion.

And to compare him to MDA from a defensive perspective is ridiculous. B. Scott's emphasis is on defense. And he doesn't sound like a babbling idiot like MDA used to.
Th Lakers are a poor defensive team because they have no interior defensive presence, their perimeter defense is porous, they give up way too many 3s, and their rotations stink.
Some of that is coaching, but mostly it's personnel.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:17 am
by laduane1
Yes, some defense would be nice. Spurs got 4 or 5 attempts at the basket on one time in the lost to the spurs. Not saying this would have given the Lakers a win. But a little defense might at lease give some help and make the game a little easier.
:banghead:

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:46 am
by dockingsched
Anyone who didn't needlessly blame MDA for all the teams woes last yr could've guessed that this team was going to be terrible at the defensive end again.

Only good thing about the mda to scott change is that people are starting to accept that the players just aren't any good. Certain critics aren't harping about the coaching night and day anymore.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:36 am
by John Long
dockingsched wrote:Anyone who didn't needlessly blame MDA for all the teams woes last yr could've guessed that this team was going to be terrible at the defensive end again.

Only good thing about the mda to scott change is that people are starting to accept that the players just aren't any good. Certain critics aren't harping about the coaching night and day anymore.


Exactly because changing the coach every year isnt going to solve the problem, acquiring better talent will. However Byron Scott is indeed worse than MDA both offensively and defensively. Only thing Byron does better than MDA is talk. Philosophically MDA is more in tuned with how to win in the current NBA.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:45 am
by Slava
John Long wrote:
dockingsched wrote:Anyone who didn't needlessly blame MDA for all the teams woes last yr could've guessed that this team was going to be terrible at the defensive end again.

Only good thing about the mda to scott change is that people are starting to accept that the players just aren't any good. Certain critics aren't harping about the coaching night and day anymore.


Exactly because changing the coach every year isnt going to solve the problem, acquiring better talent will. However Byron Scott is indeed worse than MDA both offensively and defensively. Only thing Byron does better than MDA is talk. Philosophically MDA is more in tuned with how to win in the current NBA.


This season's team so far despite the extremely difficult schedule has a better offensive rating than last season and we actually have a higher than league average relative offensive rating (+0.4), this with some terrible shooting performances from Kobe & Hill alongside the absence of Nick Young, Kelly and other rotation caliber players like X.

The issue has been the defense and unlike MDA, Scott spent significant time designing schemes so being historically bad is a little underwhelming to say the least.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 6:11 am
by Edrees
What's happening is that D'Antoni's offense was so good teams got tired trying to guard us, so it imrpoved our defense. Our offense is so bad now teams can focus all their energy guarding us because we stop ourselves on the offensive end.

Our defensive presence personal wise is better than last year. Ed davis is better at defense than how Pau was playing for us last year.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:05 am
by ChokeFasncists
lakerRD wrote:Is this a thread about Laker's defense or about B. Scott as a coach?
I do believe he is an averge coach at best, but the Laker's defensive woes really have nothing to do with B. Scott in my opinion.

And to compare him to MDA from a defensive perspective is ridiculous. B. Scott's emphasis is on defense. And he doesn't sound like a babbling idiot like MDA used to.
Th Lakers are a poor defensive team because they have no interior defensive presence, their perimeter defense is porous, they give up way too many 3s, and their rotations stink.
Some of that is coaching, but mostly it's personnel.

He is in charge of who starts and who doesn't, maybe start a better "interior defensive presence"? Of course, if he's got order from the top to go the other direction, it's a different story.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:09 am
by gotokyo
Not gonna try to argue Scott vs MDA but at least its easier to stomach 7 point losses vs 40 point losses to the clippers.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:21 am
by laduane1
Well it might come to a point in the next offseason or the one after that. When there is almost no one under contract. Try to do what the Heat did. Maybe not get a big 3, but some all new players. Just have Randle and maybe another high lottery pick and the rest is wide open for add ons.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:13 pm
by dockingsched
gotokyo wrote:Not gonna try to argue Scott vs MDA but at least its easier to stomach 7 point losses vs 40 point losses to the clippers.


Lakers margin last yr was -6.2, this yr it's -9.2. They've lost by double digits in half the games they've played. I believe it's mostly due to the tough schedule, but your statement is a bit off the mark given those stats. Of course you could literally be talking about just caring how they perform against the clippers, in which case we can't forget they actually beat the clips in their first matchup last yr.

Re: DEFENSE! DEFENSE! DEFENSE!

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:39 pm
by Kilroy
So are we arguing which turd smelled worse, or what here...
I'm confused.