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Post#1 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:27 am

Lakers’ losing is tough on Byron Scott, Kobe Bryant
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/ ... story.html

Byron Scott:
The texts are exchanged on almost a nightly basis. Sometimes they go back and forth until 2 or 3 o’clock in the morning. The wounds from the losses the Lakers have piled up this season find a way to keep stinging Kobe Bryant and Byron Scott long after they leave the arena.

“It’s not easy after the games,” said Scott, the first-year Lakers coach. “I think people in LA can tell you. They know it’s not easy after a loss.” “I think anybody who’s been winning, who’s won championships, when you lose, it should hurt,” Scott said. “I know No. 24 hurts.”

Maybe try improving the D by starting Ed Davis? Perhaps the pain will ease a little?


Kobe:
Bryant, at 36 years old and with 19 years in the league, is a transformative player aware that he is in his twilight, but he also wants to prove he can still dominate at the highest level.

“I’m a true competitor,” Bryant said. “When I say that, I mean, when things are difficult, I compete even harder. I don’t run from that. That’s not OK.

“You can’t be competitive [only] when things are going well. When things are going bad, you have to be equally competitive, if not more so.”

With this guy on board, it'd be hard to be bottom 3 in the league.


Kobe's PT:
Monitoring Bryant’s minutes is its own struggle for Scott. The season is still young, and Bryant hasn’t shown many signs of wear, but balancing the desire to preserve his superstar for the entire season with that superstar’s own desire to be on the floor is delicate for Scott.

“He’s telling you, ‘Whatever you need me to do, Coach,’ ” said Scott. “But you know in the back of his mind, he wants to be out there. So it’s hard sometimes to kind of pull those reins back because you know how competitive he is and how competitive I am, as far as wanting to win games.”

Gotta be careful.


Scott losing in the first year:
“Their question was, ‘Any coach that we hire, it’s going to be rough the first year or two, you do understand that and you’re able to deal with that?’ ” Scott recalled. The answer was easy. Scott told them, “Of course I am. I’ve dealt with it before.”

His first head coaching opportunity came in 2000-01 with the New Jersey Nets. That team had four rookies (including Kenyon Martin and Stephen Jackson), lost 56 games, and finished next to last in the Atlantic Division. The next two years, they won the Eastern Conference championship.

He left New Jersey for New Orleans before the 2004-05 season. The Hornets went 18-64 his first season. The next summer, they drafted Chris Paul, and three years later they were a 56-win team.

So I guess there's no hope this season?


Kobe's retirement:
“If I want to play, I’ll play,” Bryant said. “I tend to make my own decisions. If I don’t want to play, I won’t play, no matter what.”

The decision, Bryant said, may come down to weighing whether he’s willing to put himself through the work it takes to run the NBA gauntlet for 82 games.

“If I want to go through the process that I go through now of getting ready every single day — the amount of commitment that it takes — it’s nuts,” Bryant said. “If I want to continue to do that, then I will. If I don’t, I don’t.”


Conclusion:
In the meantime, they’ll get through this year. There will be more losses, more late-night texts in which they vent all their frustrations.

“I finally text him and say, ‘Go to bed,’ ” said Scott, “because I’m hurting just like he’s hurting. That’s the thing that I love about him.”

To tank or not to tank? Improve the D?

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Post#2 » by mcscotty » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:56 am

Byron is the man. He's got a solid coaching resume and was a key piece of the greatest basketball team to ever step on any court. He knows how to win and once he gets the personnel in place, he'll right this ship. Coaching is the least of our worries. We've got that sewed up.
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Post#3 » by Laker_Kid » Fri Dec 5, 2014 11:08 am

^ sarcasm?

lol but seriously. ive had my doubts as well but we gotta give the guy a chance and have some faith in him. somehow im still hoping he lives up to the expectations...

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Post#4 » by Kalidogg24 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 12:20 pm

Chokefasncists I gotta say bro it takes real balls to post a "Bawston" article in a Lakers forums :lol:

That's like asking the head of Al Queda what's his take on Obama's policies.
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Post#5 » by mcscotty » Fri Dec 5, 2014 1:55 pm

Laker_Kid wrote:^ sarcasm?

lol but seriously. ive had my doubts as well but we gotta give the guy a chance and have some faith in him. somehow im still hoping he lives up to the expectations...

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Not at all. Meant everything I said. Byron is solid. Anybody who judges his ability this early, with this team, really needs to chill.
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Post#6 » by Tonyism74 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 5:49 pm

Its even tougher for me as a fan...Kobe got so much talent, I swear, he is one of the most underrated passers today.
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Post#7 » by mcscotty » Fri Dec 5, 2014 8:02 pm

Tonyism74 wrote:Its even tougher for me as a fan...Kobe got so much talent, I swear, he is one of the most underrated passers today.


Kobe is one of the greatest all-round ballers ever. He's just got to realize the "Be Like Mike Era" is over and adjust his game accordingly.
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Post#8 » by Penberthy » Fri Dec 5, 2014 8:20 pm

Tonyism74 wrote:Its even tougher for me as a fan...Kobe got so much talent, I swear, he is one of the most underrated passers today.


He could have been magic in my opinion. He tried to be mj instead. His passing is not underrated, he just rarely passes. If he passed more, the world would see.
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Post#9 » by Kalidogg24 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 8:43 pm

Penberthy wrote:
Tonyism74 wrote:Its even tougher for me as a fan...Kobe got so much talent, I swear, he is one of the most underrated passers today.


He could have been magic in my opinion. He tried to be mj instead. His passing is not underrated, he just rarely passes. If he passed more, the world would see.


Kobe is definitely more of a Michael. More of an Assasins mentality.
Sure his passing skills are a bit overlooked but that's never been his brand of basketball.

Magic , LEBRON, Pistol Pete, Penny Hardaway, Scottie, and Lamar Odom are one of kind ball players in their own craft. More of a pass first mentality getting others involved. The so called silent Assasins.

Kobe, MJ, Elgin Baylor, Bernard King, Allen Iverson ext. are more of the "go for the jugular ", shoot first type of ball player.
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Post#10 » by Mamba Venom » Fri Dec 5, 2014 9:08 pm

I think all this losing will keep Kobe playing. He doesn't want to go out on a low.

Win the draft. Sign a max player. Randle turns out to be a stud. That is what needs to happen so the Lakers can compete. Only then will Kobe & Scott sleep well.
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Post#11 » by Penberthy » Fri Dec 5, 2014 10:28 pm

Kalidogg24 wrote:
Penberthy wrote:
Tonyism74 wrote:Its even tougher for me as a fan...Kobe got so much talent, I swear, he is one of the most underrated passers today.


He could have been magic in my opinion. He tried to be mj instead. His passing is not underrated, he just rarely passes. If he passed more, the world would see.


Kobe is definitely more of a Michael. More of an Assasins mentality.
Sure his passing skills are a bit overlooked but that's never been his brand of basketball.

Magic , LEBRON, Pistol Pete, Penny Hardaway, Scottie, and Lamar Odom are one of kind ball players in their own craft. More of a pass first mentality getting others involved. The so called silent Assasins.

Kobe, MJ, Elgin Baylor, Bernard King, Allen Iverson ext. are more of the "go for the jugular ", shoot first type of ball player.


Magic WAS an assassin as well. He went for the jugular just as hard, if not harder than Kobe. If you listen closely to the players of his era or watch the tape it's obvious. That is why he is the only one to ever have birds respect, he was a killer. He was just smarter about it. He did WHATEVER needed to be done, pass, shoot, board, steal, play center. He could have easily averaged 7 less assists per game, choosing to shoot instead, and scored 6 points more than he did. If he did he would still average more assists and points than Kobe. He probably would have had some pretty horrible teams like Kobe too.
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Post#12 » by EdXDavis21 » Fri Dec 5, 2014 10:40 pm

That article is not encouraging... so basically Scott has installed the mindset to the Lakers... that the season is gonna be a rough ride and I'm sure season ticket holders who have payed a bunch of money and financial revenues don't want to hear lame excuses.... fans still want the team to play at a high level....
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Post#13 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Dec 6, 2014 12:37 am

Kalidogg24 wrote:Chokefasncists I gotta say bro it takes real balls to post a "Bawston" article in a Lakers forums :lol:

That's like asking the head of Al Queda what's his take on Obama's policies.

~lol~ Well, I don't find anything inflammatory from this article, the content is all about the Lakers and I think it's quite well written......

EdXDavis21 wrote:That article is not encouraging... so basically Scott has installed the mindset to the Lakers... that the season is gonna be a rough ride and I'm sure season ticket holders who have payed a bunch of money and financial revenues don't want to hear lame excuses.... fans still want the team to play at a high level....

Agreed. Start Ed Davis, that's it.
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Post#14 » by Kilroy » Sat Dec 6, 2014 3:08 am

Well Davis got 30min tonight... He's just not a starter in the NBA either.
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Post#15 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Dec 7, 2014 3:03 am

Kilroy wrote:Well Davis got 30min tonight... He's just not a starter in the NBA either.

It's more about remedying the historically bad D rather than him being superior.
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Post#16 » by Kilroy » Sun Dec 7, 2014 6:22 am

He was horrendous on D too... He's got the motor for short stretches off the bench. Anything more and he falls on his face.
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Post#17 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun Dec 7, 2014 7:57 am

Kilroy wrote:He was horrendous on D too... He's got the motor for short stretches off the bench. Anything more and he falls on his face.

Ya, he didn't play particularly well, but one must admit that he's a better help defender than Boozer.

The Lakers won one game against teams from the West, (Rockets with Dwight out) the next best was the OT game against Denver, Ed started and the D was like a normal NBA team, not historically bad.

Perhaps he could just play short stretches starting to set the tone?
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Post#18 » by terpski » Sun Dec 7, 2014 9:47 am

People seem very forgiving of B.Scott.

I wonder if he wasn't a former Laker, would people still feel the same way?
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Post#19 » by Marionettetc » Sun Dec 7, 2014 1:16 pm

terpski wrote:People seem very forgiving of B.Scott.

I wonder if he wasn't a former Laker, would people still feel the same way?


Probably not. Answer me this though, who would call for a coach's head during a dead year?
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Post#20 » by spaceballer » Sun Dec 7, 2014 10:03 pm

terpski wrote:People seem very forgiving of B.Scott.

I wonder if he wasn't a former Laker, would people still feel the same way?


I guess you'd have to ask Cleveland or New Orleans fans how they felt about having B. Scott as their coach. Didn't he have some particularly bad losing season with the Cavs? I guess he's the right tank commander if the FO wants to keep that top 5 pick.

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