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Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:11 am
by Sofa King
A contract that once looked overwrought now appears eminently fair, to the point where the Lakers are considered likely to exercise the $9 million option they hold on Hill’s deal next season. On a roster widely viewed as devoid of trade assets, sources told Sporting News that Hill is the one guy about whom the Lakers get realistic trade calls—but that LA has no plans to move him.

When LA was criticized for the size of Hill’s contract, he mostly shrugged it off. He had been pursued by the Heat and Rockets—among others—but Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak told him to make sure he checked back with the team before he signed elsewhere.

“I heard all that, but I didn’t pay any attention,” Hill told Sporting News. “I knew I had the skills to do it, I just needed the minutes. With D’Antoni, it was hard for me to find the minutes. He wanted me to do the things he wanted me to do to get the minutes. I couldn’t really do what I wanted to do, to play the way I know I could play.

"So, things happened and now it’s a whole new year. Now, I am one of the main focal points of the team, so I can go out there and do what I am capable of doing.”

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“If I took 100 3s right now, I would say I could make close to 50,” Hill told me. “Probably 40.”

Hill smiled. “I can shoot 3s,” he said. “I can definitely make them. I am just not worried about making 3s right now because we have got our 3-point shooters on the team. But I know I can knock them down if I have the chance.”

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http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2 ... ke-dantoni

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:16 am
by TyCobb
Trashes D'Antoni's offense, ends by saying he can drain 3's and that he's gonna work on it next summer.

Ya big dummy.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:44 am
by dockingsched
Funny thing is that aside from playing more minutes and drastically improving his ft shooting, he hasn't made too many improvements. His scoring efficiency is down a good amount which is shocking considering his ft improvement. His rebounding rate is down slightly which is understandable with the increased minutes. His defensive metrics have taken a total crap across the board, who knows how much he's responsible for, his teammates, or the staff.

Hill has a legit gripe about not getting more minutes under MDA, but as far as the " I couldn’t really do what I wanted to do, to play the way I know I could play" comment, there's really no evidence he's playing better, just playing more.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:50 am
by Slava
dockingsched wrote:Funny thing is that aside from playing more minutes and drastically improving his ft shooting, he hasn't made too many improvements. His scoring efficiency is down a good amount which is shocking considering his ft improvement. His rebounding rate is down slightly which is understandable with the increased minutes. His defensive metrics have taken a total crap across the board, who knows how much he's responsible for, his teammates, or the staff.

Hill has a legit gripe about not getting more minutes under MDA, but as far as the " I couldn’t really do what I wanted to do, to play the way I know I could play" comment, there's really no evidence he's playing better, just playing more.


To be fair, his offense isn't the same as it was last season, when he was feeding solely off offensive boards. This year he's been getting post isos called for him, having pick and pops run through him, so on and so forth, considering the increase in his shooting volume in the 16ft - <3 pt range, its no surprise his efficiency took a dip.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:17 am
by aaron_gray
Is the last year of his contract a team option? I remember reading at the time that it was, but basketball-reference has it as a fully guaranteed year.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 4:26 am
by Ckay
aaron_gray wrote:Is the last year of his contract a team option? I remember reading at the time that it was, but basketball-reference has it as a fully guaranteed year.

yup
Hill took up $6.8 million of the Lakers' cap room as a free agent. The Lakers were able to exceed the salary cap to re-sign him at roughly $9 million for the coming season. The team is also reported to have an option on Hill's second year.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la ... story.html

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 1:59 pm
by Tee212
he developed a shot and has a lil goto jump hook in the paint i cant complain about hill.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 10:43 pm
by Vae Victus
Hill's defense is ass. He's another big reason why we have zero defensive presence in the paint. Any half smart GM would know that Hill is an at best 3-4 mil type 4th big off the bench type, his "improved" outside shot isnt reliable enough for him to set weakass picks and ALWAYS be popping instead of also rolling to help free up the penetrator or attract attention off of the other wing shooters. If you watch him set picks he barely grazes the guy and then hares off to pop and is pretty much always open (which the defense is fine with) and is shooting damn near all the time.

He's playing very selfish ball in that he's not helping the team enough doing the little things (hustle, hard picks, defense) and really only padding his own stats on offense.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:36 am
by ChokeFasncists
Vae Victus wrote:Hill's defense is ass. He's another big reason why we have zero defensive presence in the paint. Any half smart GM would know that Hill is an at best 3-4 mil type 4th big off the bench type, his "improved" outside shot isnt reliable enough for him to set weakass picks and ALWAYS be popping instead of also rolling to help free up the penetrator or attract attention off of the other wing shooters. If you watch him set picks he barely grazes the guy and then hares off to pop and is pretty much always open (which the defense is fine with) and is shooting damn near all the time.

He's playing very selfish ball in that he's not helping the team enough doing the little things (hustle, hard picks, defense) and really only padding his own stats on offense.

Agreed. (except I think he can get more than 4 mil since there aren't so many bigs) When Sacre matures, (no doing boneheaded things or taking bad shots, improved D and rebounding) he's probably the better starter at the C. Hill's very good off the bench.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 2:41 am
by dipstick
Any possibility the Nets would be interested in him for Brook Lopez, with there seeming to be chemistry issues with Joe Johnson?

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:20 am
by Jajwanda
I like Sacre starting as it gives you a floor-spacer to make up for Boozer being on the bench. Hill could then become the super sub on the Laker bench making it even deeper. The numbers (Hill's from past years) and Sacre's current 5 man lineup numbers point to Sacre being the better starter and it makes sense if you look at the fit of the players.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 8:45 pm
by Mamba Venom
Expiring contracts have value.

Just about everyone besides Kobe, Randle & Young (Boozer is not tradable) is expiring.

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:33 am
by Sofa King
Jajwanda wrote:I like Sacre


You lost me here.

Jajwanda wrote:I like Sacre starting


Then I... :rofl:

Re: Jordan Hill's Contract and Value

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:18 pm
by laduane1
If someone offers a high draft pick this draft, you might just have to look at it. But he is solid.