Kevin Ding: Lakers could trade Top 5 pick and Randle

EdXDavis21 · Post #1 » by **EdXDavis21** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:48 am

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Interesting stuff from a long-time LA beat writer he's one of the few who wouldn't make stuff up for hits/attention... I think Jim Buss is getting worried about his time-slot to turn the Lakers into contenders..... the article is pretty long you guys should read it....

Michael Lucky · Post #2 » by **Michael Lucky** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 12:57 am

For such a trade to even be conceivable the Lakers would need a top tier player to already be here not the other way around. After all you don't trade your assets for a good player if you don't have others there to help make you a contender. Sounds to me like Ding is just making a story for the sake of making one.

Also good luck getting a top 10 player here who is under contract for a few years from a team. Last I checked none of them wanted out. We can also rule out a scenario where we'd trade our assets for a max contract player who is in a contract year, after the whole Dwight fiasco.

Hector_Reyes_8 · Post #3 » by **Hector_Reyes_8** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:08 am

No. I've gotten attached to Randle and if we suffer through this season and get a player who may bolt, we'll be as bad as the East cellar dwellers.

Post #4 » by **Slava** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:13 am

If we start trading draft picks again, I'm going to have to choke someone.

DEEP3CL · Post #5 » by **DEEP3CL** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:14 am

This crap is media driven, just like the crappy story I read on CBS Sports today about the Lakers plan. No way in hell the Lakers are trading Julius, it makes no sense especially since he's not going to net you a player that's better than him. The plan is to build with the few assets we have obtained ( the currently 4th lotto pick and Houston's pick for this draft), maybe we can flip J Hill down the line and anything we get for him would be an extra chip in our pockets.

Also we need to get out our minds that we can land any of these franchise type players....KD,Marc Gasol or anybody else ain't coming here because we don't have an established team on the cusp of winning something. The only one I think that's even possibly remote to land is Westbrook and that's only if things get tiring in OKC, and their window is closing. But I'm not banking on it.

Post #6 » by **Slava** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:15 am

Michael Lucky wrote:Also good luck getting a top 10 player here who is under contract for a few years from a team. Last I checked none of them wanted out. We can also rule out a scenario where we'd trade our assets for a max contract player who is in a contract year, after the whole Dwight fiasco.

Man, you are not even the glass half empty type, you are the glass bone dry type.

Drones · Post #7 » by **Drones** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:45 am

Julius Randle is exactly what the Lakers need right now. I get the feeling this kind of report, just like Stephen A Smith saying the Buss family might sell, is just media hype. That or it's a smokescreen put out by rival teams or opposing agents.

Julius Randle just left his agency for CAA. Perhaps this report is just his old agent spreading a rumor out of spite.

Post #8 » by **dockingsched** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:22 am

In theory there's nothing wrong with leaving the door open for the possibility of trading randle or the draft pick for an established player that would be way more attractive to tier one free agents. The same thing essentially just happened with the cavs fulfilling their promise to Lebron. Technically they got Lebron first but that was just cause wiggins couldn't be traded. Trading their youth for established stars was part of the deal when Lebron decided to go back to cle.

Post #9 » by **Kilroy** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:23 am

Interesting that Randle changed reps though... Regime change for negotiating the trade market?

ChokeFasncists · Post #10 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:44 am

Interesting that even if the pick is kept this year, next year it'd be the same story, top 3 protected. So are they gonna put out a bottom 2 team or are they gonna try to win big?

Bottom 2 would be hell. It'd be tough to win and keep the cap space for next offseason when Kobe's contract comes off the book. Kobe would still be a big question mark. One year rentals? Sign Lin to a relatively big one year contract and do Linsanity for a year?

Sofa King · Post #11 » by **Sofa King** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:58 am

Just don't trade both for Love.

Penberthy · Post #12 » by **Penberthy** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:19 am

What could we get for them?

Post #13 » by **Kilroy** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:28 am

Maybe guys that are free agents next year that teams either don't think they have a shot at retaining or are moving on from? Like Gasol or Aldridge? I mean that's the tier of talent I'd be interested in when talking about a Randle AND first trade...
It'd have to be a pretty special player to essentially give up 2 years worth of tank for.

Laker_Kid · Post #14 » by **Laker_Kid** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:39 am

kevin ding sure doesnt make stuff up, but like many writers, he tries to stir things up a lot with articles that everyone actually already know, we just dont bother to talk or think about. its like lakersnation articles saying we're interested in trading hill or acquiring talent through trade. of course we are. duh. basically just running in circles. so meh.

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kblo247 · Post #15 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:40 am

Kilroy wrote:Maybe guys that are free agents next year that teams either don't think they have a shot at retaining or are moving on from? Like Gasol or Aldridge? I mean that's the tier of talent I'd be interested in when talking about a Randle AND first trade...
It'd have to be a pretty special player to essentially give up 2 years worth of tank for.

The thing is it is plausible.

Jim buss is on a be in the WCF or be fired timeline :lol:

by his sister that was made public and she's said over and over she's sticking to and holding over his and Mitch's head

But the two names you picked also make it plausible. If you're the lakers and you hypothetically get Okafor at 1, so what? He hasn't proven a thing. And most the current lotto picks from a desperate draft haven't shown squat or just can't hold up. Hell technically the top picks of the past like Love, Kyrie, Cousins, haven't amounted to any success.

If you can get a meeting with both Marc and Aldridge this summer and talk to them about forming a twin towers, you do it, you facilitate doing it by sending them out as sign and trades and leaving a little money left for something else. Randle and Okafor ain't worth missing out on two of Marc, Aldridge, Rondo, or the like.

Randle Had not proven anything but he can get hurt and Okafor hasn't proven anything at the pro level. It only makes sense to get them and retain them if you are solely willing to play in the rfa business and go for total youth with Jackson and Tobias added to them so you have like 4 youngins who will enter their primes/peak together ..... but that ain't keeping jimmy with a job because Jeanie really will, **** him like he **** Phil, this team, and Kobe after Pringles and the pink slip incidents

Post #16 » by **Kilroy** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:45 am

I said "or" but I suppose you could do something like Lin and #4 for Gasol and Randle and Hill for LMA or something... That would be impressive and easier to swallow.

But I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't believe Jeanie is putting any tangible pressure on Jim. I don't believe there's any risk of her firing him. If he steps down (or up to ownership actually), it'll be because he's had enough, not because he's getting canned by his sister.
He could step down, but I just don't think there's any feeling that his job is on the line.
In fact, I could see them both stepping down, rather than one firing the other.

kblo247 · Post #17 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:46 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:Interesting that even if the pick is kept this year, next year it'd be the same story, top 3 protected. So are they gonna put out a bottom 2 team or are they gonna try to win big?

Bottom 2 would be hell. It'd be tough to win and keep the cap space for next offseason when Kobe's contract comes off the book. Kobe would still be a big question mark. One year rentals? Sign Lin to a relatively big one year contract and do Linsanity for a year?

Because he hasn't been scrubtastic while they pay him 15 mil

ChokeFasncists · Post #18 » by **ChokeFasncists** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:51 am

He was playing fine for a while at the beginning of the season. Unfortunately he's neither particularly suitable to play slow alongside Kobe nor play off the bench.

Sofa King · Post #19 » by **Sofa King** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:36 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:He was playing fine for a while at the beginning of the season. Unfortunately he's neither particularly suitable to play slow alongside Kobe nor play off the bench.

Gotta give a rookie more than preseason and part of the first game to really evaluate his play.

kblo247 · Post #20 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:40 am

Sofa King wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:He was playing fine for a while at the beginning of the season. Unfortunately he's neither particularly suitable to play slow alongside Kobe nor play off the bench.

Gotta give a rookie more than preseason and part of the first game to really evaluate his play.

He was talking about Lin man :lol: