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Meager consolation atleast we won't be sending the pick within the division if the tank fails.

No chance of the tank failing now. This **** solid gold.

Pho while getting out of IT contract will now have to pay up to keep Knight, again they'll be nearly capped out and still as medicore as ever.....a win win I must say for me as Pho is one of the more hated fan base to me.

The thing I worry about is now we probably beat Philly two games coming up. Don't like that conflict of interest there.

Seriously, who the hell plays for Philly right now?

crazyeights wrote:The thing I worry about is now we probably beat Philly two games coming up. Don't like that conflict of interest there.

Seriously, who the hell plays for Philly right now?

That is realer than dirty "draws".

crazyeights wrote:The thing I worry about is now we probably beat Philly two games coming up. Don't like that conflict of interest there.

Seriously, who the hell plays for Philly right now?

If Philly had offered Noel to take away the protection from that pick before deadline, I'd have done it.

Philly probably is willing to accept that the pick is staying with the lakers this season and the sixers are simply happy to have a chance to get a great pick next year when the protection reduces.

After reading the article on the sixers and their approach this lines up with that well.

So the pick goes to them next year too...Wow.

How do the Suns fans feel about all this?

This means two things: we are for real tanking and there has to be rumblings/belief around the league that we are going to make some type of free agency splash this off-season. Otherwise, trading that pick would be silly, because unless whoever we draft is the next LeBron and we don't land anyone in free agency, that pick next year will still be pretty good.

agreed, it would the front office has plans to keep this pick and make some noise in free agency, I can see it but i just hope we don't get desperate. interestingly, i think we should be ready for a draft day trade if we can, sometimes big names are moved and mistakes are made, in any case I'm not sour on the no moves stance by us, it IS the most prudent.

LApwnd wrote:Pho while getting out of IT contract will now have to pay up to keep Knight, again they'll be nearly capped out and still as medicore as ever.....a win win I must say for me as Pho is one of the more hated fan base to me.

Not only that LA, they're worse now than they were. Moving all three of their guards for a guy that's probably reached his peak is flat out ignorant. Knight is okay but he's not going to propel your team to the elite status.

Thank god we dont get annoying Suns fans posting on our forum anymore

dockingsched wrote:Philly probably is willing to accept that the pick is staying with the lakers this season and the sixers are simply happy to have a chance to get a great pick next year when the protection reduces.

After reading the article on the sixers and their approach this lines up with that well.

If we can make some sort of slight improvements we can easily play the pick down. Besides these picks are becoming overrated in a sense that Philly isn't using them to improve their team but as a mean to play NBA monopoly. For a guy like me keeping an eye on college talent....the next few drafts are going to be thin as a sheet of paper in terms of talent.

DEEP3CL wrote:

LApwnd wrote:Pho while getting out of IT contract will now have to pay up to keep Knight, again they'll be nearly capped out and still as medicore as ever.....a win win I must say for me as Pho is one of the more hated fan base to me.

Not only that LA, they're worse now than they were. Moving all three of their guards for a guy that's probably reached his peak is flat out ignorant. Knight is okay but he's not going to propel your team to the elite status.

Suns didn't exactly lose at the deadline. They got picks for a guy who was going to leave them anyways and also got a pick for a guy who they were trying to get rid of. I have no idea where Brandon Knight fits into the picture but Suns made the best of a situation instead of letting a guy walk for nothing *cough* Pau Gasol *cough*

Pointgod wrote:

DEEP3CL wrote:

LApwnd wrote:Pho while getting out of IT contract will now have to pay up to keep Knight, again they'll be nearly capped out and still as medicore as ever.....a win win I must say for me as Pho is one of the more hated fan base to me.

Not only that LA, they're worse now than they were. Moving all three of their guards for a guy that's probably reached his peak is flat out ignorant. Knight is okay but he's not going to propel your team to the elite status.

Suns didn't exactly lose at the deadline. They got picks for a guy who was going to leave them anyways and also got a pick for a guy who they were trying to get rid of. I have no idea where Brandon Knight fits into the picture but Suns made the best of a situation instead of letting a guy walk for nothing *cough* Pau Gasol *cough*

The picks are so far down the road, by the time the Suns need them they'll be in the dumps. We're talking about picks in 2017,18,19 years.

DEEP3CL wrote:

Pointgod wrote:

DEEP3CL wrote:Not only that LA, they're worse now than they were. Moving all three of their guards for a guy that's probably reached his peak is flat out ignorant. Knight is okay but he's not going to propel your team to the elite status.

Suns didn't exactly lose at the deadline. They got picks for a guy who was going to leave them anyways and also got a pick for a guy who they were trying to get rid of. I have no idea where Brandon Knight fits into the picture but Suns made the best of a situation instead of letting a guy walk for nothing *cough* Pau Gasol *cough*

The picks are so far down the road, by the time the Suns need them they'll be in the dumps. We're talking about picks in 2017,18,19 years.

Assets are assets. Take your blinders off, getting something for someone that you were going to lose anyway is in no way a negative. I somehow doubt if the Lakers got picks 3 years down the road you'd be downplaying it. Those picks can always be included to facilitate trades, that's why its never a bad thing to have assets.

Pointgod wrote:Assets are assets. Take your blinders off, getting something for someone that you were going to lose anyway is in no way a negative. I somehow doubt if the Lakers got picks 3 years down the road you'd be downplaying it. Those picks can always be included to facilitate trades, that's why its never a bad thing to have assets.

I get what you're saying, truth be told though man...I'm not one to think draft picks are the key to rebuilding. Yeah those picks can be used in deals but to me it's an empty piece. Teams aren't even using picks to scout future talent, and that what infuriates me the most....has nothing to do with "blinders". I could actually care less if the Lakers had down the road picks, in fact after 2017 the Lakers have all their picks to do as they please but I could give a damn personally.

I'm watching college ball every week and I don't see any player anytime soon that will change the landscape of the game after this draft passes. The structure of basketball is really in trouble and this is why USA basketball is trying to get more involved on the lower levels so that the college game can strengthen up again to probably where it was at in the 80's.

Bottom line I'm looking past draft picks and trying to look at players who can become potent draft picks. But for now in this present stage GM's are using picks to fool fans into thinking they're trying to improve the team. It's a lot of ways we can look at picks, when great teams that contend for titles give up picks their intent is to play well enough to play the pick down so that the team that's getting it almost sees no impact if it's in the low 20's like most are. Like I said I get what you're saying, I'm just saying I'm not hung up on picks like most of the younger generation posters here are.

Sarver being sarver. Cut salary and give the fans false hope. He's Sterling 2.0.

Sixers got a possible nice pick but they seem to have undone some of the positives they had for an overpriced third center and a heavy investment into the draft again.

DEEP3CL wrote:

Pointgod wrote:Assets are assets. Take your blinders off, getting something for someone that you were going to lose anyway is in no way a negative. I somehow doubt if the Lakers got picks 3 years down the road you'd be downplaying it. Those picks can always be included to facilitate trades, that's why its never a bad thing to have assets.

I get what you're saying, truth be told though man...I'm not one to think draft picks are the key to rebuilding. Yeah those picks can be used in deals but to me it's an empty piece. Teams aren't even using picks to scout future talent, and that what infuriates me the most....has nothing to do with "blinders". I could actually care less if the Lakers had down the road picks, in fact after 2017 the Lakers have all their picks to do as they please but I could give a damn personally.

I'm watching college ball every week and I don't see any player anytime soon that will change the landscape of the game after this draft passes. The structure of basketball is really in trouble and this is why USA basketball is trying to get more involved on the lower levels so that the college game can strengthen up again to probably where it was at in the 80's.

Bottom line I'm looking past draft picks and trying to look at players who can become potent draft picks. But for now in this present stage GM's are using picks to fool fans into thinking they're trying to improve the team. It's a lot of ways we can look at picks, when great teams that contend for titles give up picks their intent is to play well enough to play the pick down so that the team that's getting it almost sees no impact if it's in the low 20's like most are. Like I said I get what you're saying, I'm just saying I'm not hung up on picks like most of the younger generation posters here are.

There are 3 ways to rebuild. Through the draft, through trades or through free agency. The Lakers only have 2 picks over the next 4 years and not getting any additional picks pretty much eliminates the first two methods. I don't understand the undying love people have for the front office. When superstars are available they make excuses for them saying "well the Lakers didn't have the assets to make the deal", then when they pass up on opportunities to get assets for future deals posters still make excuses. It keeps going around in a circle instead of acknowledging the fact that the front office has no clue what they're doing. As far as free agency it's the same story. They refuse to take risks on restricted free agents or sign players that don't have star power. So again they sign one year deals and repeat the same process the following year with no rhyme or reason. There's a hard truth that needs to be said, this team is a train wreck and there isn't a single superstar in 2015 pool that will turn us into a playoff team. Why is that important? Well our pick is only top 3 protected next year. If we're bad enough to keep the pick well you can kiss any superstar free agent good bye. Teams keep passing us bye while we keep waiting for some mythical saviour. The West is a dog fight and the competitive landscape is only getting stronger.

The only handicap that the Lakers have is their own complacency. Management keeps thinking they can operate under the old way and either make a trade with no assets or entice a free agent because of some Laker "magic". Sure people want to remain calm but sadly I see this team slipping into Kings territory where the only thing we have to look forward to is the draft.

I think you're ignoring the silver lining here... We still have Jeremy Lin.
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