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Post#1 » by Slava » Fri Sep 18, 2015 5:01 pm

Some important bits:

On Kobe's PT:

Q. To what extent do you regret the way that decision was made last year? There was a lot made about you playing him more minutes than he thought he should play. Is that a burden for you? Do you feel some guilt?

A. I felt bad about it. I don’t know if I would say guilty. I know Kobe’s a competitor and he’s going to play as many minutes as you want him to play. I’m also a competitor, so I want to win and I know having him on the court gives me the best opportunity to win. But I also know that I’ve got to think about him more than anything. And I thought there were points in time last year where I thought he could play a certain amount of minutes. He told me Day One the minutes that he thought he could play in and like I told him at the end of the day, ‘You were absolutely right and I was wrong.’ I won’t make that mistake again.

Q. Last year there were some overtime situations. You’re going to make the decision to not play him in an overtime if you hit that ceiling?

A. We hit that ceiling I’m going to stick to it.

3 pointers and Analytics:

Q. Your detractors latched onto a few things you said last year, but particularly in preseason when you said 3-pointers didn’t win championships. And that came up before the season, then we see Golden State win a title. Would you want to clarify that statement or revise it now?

A. No. Everybody wants to take, ‘Well he said…’ Yeah, but if you are a 3-point shooting team in this league, you’re No. 1 in the league, but you’re last in defense, you won’t win a championship. They were the No.1 offensive team and defensive team in the league. They were the best team. They deserved to win the championship. The only thing I would say, or extract from that, is you can be a great 3-point shooting team, but if you don’t play defense, you won’t win championships.

Q. What would it look like if you guys tried to play that way?

A. We’re not going to play that type of style. We’re going to take 3-point shots that are given to us on a consistent basis. We’re not going to just come down and be launching 3-pointers. We have Lou who can make them, Jordan who can make them, Swaggy who can make them. Jabari (Brown). We have a number of guys – Ryan (Kelly) – who can make them on a consistent basis, but it’s not going to be the focal point of our offense.

Q. To what degree have you had to compromise on those issues? Analytics is becoming a bigger part of the organization.

A. I wouldn’t say I had to compromise, it’s basically for me, it’s adding certain things to the element of us being a little more successful. The analytical part, like I said, I wasn’t a big proponent in it, but Clay (Moser) is a guy who’s kind of our go-between to make sure the analytical guys understand exactly what I want, and also to make us understand exactly what they’re doing. He’s kind of our buffer. Mark is a guy who knows it extremely well, so are we using a it a lot more this year? Absolutely.


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Post#2 » by crazyeights » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:06 pm

Other than running down Kobe last year, which was egregious when you think about it, people really made much ado about nothing based on a handful of comments Scott made.

Hopefully he and the Lakers can control the narrative a little better going forward, because honestly they have been lacking in that department for years now. As much as people talk about analytics, part of what they really need is smarter PR.
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Post#3 » by dockingsched » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:20 pm

Agreed^^. The smarter PR is already in the works with more transparency they're showing with areas of criticisms such as analytics. It also helps that the Scott hire helped Magic finally shut up. If this were any other coach and they also ended up 29th in defense after starting the season by taking shots at the previous regime for their results on the defensive end...we wouldn't have heard the end of Magic's rants.
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Post#4 » by dockingsched » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:36 pm

In regards to his infamous "3 pointers don't win championships", I wish he would just man up and say he was wrong for saying that cause he was indeed wrong. With his comments here he tries to elaborate was that what he really meant was that defense is what win championships, which is a totally valid point, but you don't need to strictly isolate 3 pointers as something that won't win which is what he did.

As a follow up, id love for someone to ask him that with the idea that defense wins championships, does he view himself as a championship caliber coach consider that the last string of teams he's coached have been among the worst at defense in the entire league. If he does view himself as a championship caliber coach, why were they so poor last year and why were even worse than the year prior under MDA which he openly mocked and vowed wouldn't happen under his watch.
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Post#5 » by crazyeights » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:38 pm

Good point about Magic, doc.

As much as Scott wasn't an inspiring hire, in some ways he was an incredibly shrewd one. He simultaneously bought them time with the fan base, appeased Kobe, and can be a "rebuilding specialist" (i.e. tank/develop young talent acquired by tank).

If we had a contender for a roster, I don't think he'd have been the guy, but right now he's as good of a fit while the organization gets its ducks in a row.

One thing about Scott's comments I'd like to see changed by next year, if this young core is going to work D'Angelo Russell needs to be synonymous with 3 point shooting. I get he didn't name him as one of the shooters, because so far DA hasn't played a meaningful second, yet, but if he's going to be the right pick, he's gonna have to be a great, volume 3 point shooter.

3 pointers, way of the future.

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Post#6 » by Danny Darko » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:01 pm

Actually crazy good defensive wings and a center that can abuse people for high percentage shots is the way of the future. The league is cyclical.
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Post#7 » by BEazy » Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:34 am

Oh God he mentioned Ryan Kelly...SMH...
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Post#8 » by TyCobb » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:45 pm

dockingsched wrote:In regards to his infamous "3 pointers don't win championships", I wish he would just man up and say he was wrong for saying that cause he was indeed wrong. With his comments here he tries to elaborate was that what he really meant was that defense is what win championships, which is a totally valid point, but you don't need to strictly isolate 3 pointers as something that won't win which is what he did.

As a follow up, id love for someone to ask him that with the idea that defense wins championships, does he view himself as a championship caliber coach consider that the last string of teams he's coached have been among the worst at defense in the entire league. If he does view himself as a championship caliber coach, why were they so poor last year and why were even worse than the year prior under MDA which he openly mocked and vowed wouldn't happen under his watch.


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Post#9 » by DEEP3CL » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:16 am

Danny Darko wrote:Actually crazy good defensive wings and a center that can abuse people for high percentage shots is the way of the future. The league is cyclical.
Agreed, looking at the teams that shoot a high percentage of three's for their offense will be those same teams 5-6 years from now that can't shoot that well. It trips me out because people are actually being fooled into thinking that this style of ball now will be the next wave that will carry on for the next 25 years or so. We got to this point do to the lack of skilled centers that can't carry an offense. When the tide turns and there are more post players like Okafor that will score for a high percentage in the post, teams will slide in that direction.
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Post#10 » by DEEP3CL » Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:31 am

And for you guys still haggling on this coaching trip.....tell me who the hell they should or could hire that's elite, won big and could do better than Scott ?

Waiting for your answers, other than that you guys keep beating a dead ass horse.
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
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Post#11 » by Jody Smokz » Mon Sep 21, 2015 6:35 pm

Easy. Any coach that has an understanding of where the game is and where it's headed. Brad Stevens was this type of hire. Hiring retreads is how you end up behind the times and getting nowhere. You see the same crap in the real world. How many places have you or others worked that refuse to hire up and comers to leadership positions and would rather hire of guy with "experience" to be safe?

DEEP3CL wrote:And for you guys still haggling on this coaching trip.....tell me who the hell they should or could hire that's elite, won big and could do better than Scott ?

Waiting for your answers, other than that you guys keep beating a dead ass horse.
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Post#12 » by Kilroy » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:46 pm

Jody Smokz wrote:Easy. Any coach that has an understanding of where the game is and where it's headed. Brad Stevens was this type of hire. Hiring retreads is how you end up behind the times and getting nowhere. You see the same crap in the real world. How many places have you or others worked that refuse to hire up and comers to leadership positions and would rather hire of guy with "experience" to be safe?

DEEP3CL wrote:And for you guys still haggling on this coaching trip.....tell me who the hell they should or could hire that's elite, won big and could do better than Scott ?

Waiting for your answers, other than that you guys keep beating a dead ass horse.


Love the conviction, but Brad Stevens was a gamble that hasn't paid off yet.
It was also a relatively safe gamble given the fact that he's cheap, and the Celtics have no real championship aspirations anytime soon.
The bar is extremely low for him. Just keep his youth movement engaged and hope for wins.

Which isn't a whole lot different than Scott's directive... And money for that matter (basically just fewer years). Only we still have Kobe and it was somewhat of a concern that we hire someone who had his respect.

Shrewd move by the Lakers, all things considered. Brad Stevens isn't a name I'd outright call a smarter choice.
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Post#13 » by crazyeights » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:26 am

I was being ironic with the 3 pointers way of the future thing. People say that a little mindlessly.

I agree there pendulum will swing if and when there are dominant bigs wrecking the league. There's also the factor that Steph/Klay are some of the best volume 3 point shooters we've seen, so a team trying to emulate that is asking for lighting to strike twice.

That said, I think while we may not see a GSW-level dominance, and even if there are more offensive monster bigs, the game is still going to have changed.

More and more players are going to be skilled at shooting the 3 surrounding those big men. Teams may use the midrange as a means to keep the spacing, but they'll be coached to take the 3. Because in the end it comes down to simple math. 3>2

The 3 point shot is simply much easier to teach and to remain elite at than being 7'0" 265lbs, ultra-athletic with the knees, feet, and spine to withstand the grind.
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Post#14 » by Jody Smokz » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:24 pm

Neither should we and hiring Byron is indicative of that. No other team in the NBA was in a rush to hire him and no other team even interviewed him. Stevens coached up a random set of players to the playoffs. It was in the East but still. Imagine him with this team this year?

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Jody Smokz wrote:Easy. Any coach that has an understanding of where the game is and where it's headed. Brad Stevens was this type of hire. Hiring retreads is how you end up behind the times and getting nowhere. You see the same crap in the real world. How many places have you or others worked that refuse to hire up and comers to leadership positions and would rather hire of guy with "experience" to be safe?

DEEP3CL wrote:And for you guys still haggling on this coaching trip.....tell me who the hell they should or could hire that's elite, won big and could do better than Scott ?

Waiting for your answers, other than that you guys keep beating a dead ass horse.


Love the conviction, but Brad Stevens was a gamble that hasn't paid off yet.
It was also a relatively safe gamble given the fact that he's cheap, and the Celtics have no real championship aspirations anytime soon.
The bar is extremely low for him. Just keep his youth movement engaged and hope for wins.

Which isn't a whole lot different than Scott's directive... And money for that matter (basically just fewer years). Only we still have Kobe and it was somewhat of a concern that we hire someone who had his respect.

Shrewd move by the Lakers, all things considered. Brad Stevens isn't a name I'd outright call a smarter choice.
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Post#15 » by Kilroy » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:06 pm

Jody Smokz wrote:Neither should we and hiring Byron is indicative of that. No other team in the NBA was in a rush to hire him and no other team even interviewed him. Stevens coached up a random set of players to the playoffs. It was in the East but still. Imagine him with this team this year?

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Jody Smokz wrote:Easy. Any coach that has an understanding of where the game is and where it's headed. Brad Stevens was this type of hire. Hiring retreads is how you end up behind the times and getting nowhere. You see the same crap in the real world. How many places have you or others worked that refuse to hire up and comers to leadership positions and would rather hire of guy with "experience" to be safe?



Love the conviction, but Brad Stevens was a gamble that hasn't paid off yet.
It was also a relatively safe gamble given the fact that he's cheap, and the Celtics have no real championship aspirations anytime soon.
The bar is extremely low for him. Just keep his youth movement engaged and hope for wins.

Which isn't a whole lot different than Scott's directive... And money for that matter (basically just fewer years). Only we still have Kobe and it was somewhat of a concern that we hire someone who had his respect.

Shrewd move by the Lakers, all things considered. Brad Stevens isn't a name I'd outright call a smarter choice.


Would have thought it was pretty obvious that the Celtics had way more talent than we did last year. Also, I don't remember any rush to hire Scott... It seemed like a decision that took forever.

The original question you responded to from Deep was: "Who was a top tier coach we could have had instead of Scott?"
You didn't answer that question. Stevens certainly doesn't qualify as Top Tier... He just made the jump from college, hasn't proven anything yet, and is locked into a 6yr deal. That to me was a rushed decision.
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Post#16 » by Jody Smokz » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:59 pm

Well there aren't any top tier "names" on the market. I also dont think they need to chase that. Chasing names is how we'd end up with Thibs or George Karl when he gets fired.
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Post#17 » by Kilroy » Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:56 pm

Right, but that's not the point... The point is, most people who are pissed about the Scott hiring are mad because we didn't go after a higher profile candidate. They want Pop, or 10 year ago Phil... But the truth of the matter is, those guys weren't available.

I'm a Billy Donovan fan... But I'm not oblivious enough to think that hiring wouldn't have been super divisive in LA. It also would have been a near impossible position for him to be in. Because he would have no roster, Kobe, and limitless expectations and scrutiny.
I wish it could work, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't.

Mike Brown was the last coach in LA who had the talent to win. MDA was a last ditch effort to salvage what we had... Scott is the transition hire... He's likable, has Showtime provenance, has rapport with Kobe, and isn't terrible at getting the most out of mediocre talent, at least at the 1 and 2...

If you recognize that the team is broken, you have to see that it's a lot more broken than just a coaching hire... We milked Kobe for as many championships as we could, but now that era's over... We have no roster. We're a blank slate at this point. We need to form some sort of identity before we start talking about finding a better coach. Because Scott is good enough for this stage of our development. These young guys need a firm hand who's been there and can tell them what it takes to get back. When they outgrow that level of coaching, it'll be time for a new coach.
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Post#18 » by dockingsched » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:08 pm

I think the idea that people that didn't want Scott hired because they wanted a big name is a bit off the mark. I personally didn't want Scott hired even though I understand why it was done. Anyway, I didn't want a big name, I wanted a young up and coming coach, some fresh blood. I believe this was echoed by most that didn't want Scott, I don't recall any significant amount of people wanting a big name. I only remember the rare Jerry Sloan mention and the off the cuff "if Thibs was available" mentions.

Back to Scott, the guy really fit the needs of the team which was someone to have a good relationship with Kobe and someone who the critics would hesitate to immediately trash cause of his lakers history.

**kilroy, I see you called Scott likable, couldn't disagree more. He's very unlikeable IMO.
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Post#19 » by Marionettetc » Tue Sep 22, 2015 4:31 pm

To intervene in this conversation, I'd like to add that I'm personally pretty apathetic about the Scott hiring.

The way I looked at it, was that he was hired because he's a Lakers name, fairly respected by Lakers nation, Kobe respects him and he's also relatively cheap and expectations are low during this dead period.

I mean, it certainly worked for me. I'm pretty fair with coaching evaluations, because it's easy to realize that only talent wins games much more than coaching does - so it's hard to get real concrete data on "just" how good a coach is. I think Scott could have done more last year, but not much more. I also realize the tank mandate the FO sent down to develop the young players and secure the draft pick.

In a year, if Scott hasn't done anything with this roster I will call for his head. Definitely not now. He was handed a big, fat bag of garbage when he was hired and no sane person should be criticizing him for piloting an injured and talent-less roster to the 2nd pick.
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Post#20 » by Kilroy » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:28 pm

dockingsched wrote:I think the idea that people that didn't want Scott hired because they wanted a big name is a bit off the mark. I personally didn't want Scott hired even though I understand why it was done. Anyway, I didn't want a big name, I wanted a young up and coming coach, some fresh blood. I believe this was echoed by most that didn't want Scott, I don't recall any significant amount of people wanting a big name. I only remember the rare Jerry Sloan mention and the off the cuff "if Thibs was available" mentions.

Back to Scott, the guy really fit the needs of the team which was someone to have a good relationship with Kobe and someone who the critics would hesitate to immediately trash cause of his lakers history.

**kilroy, I see you called Scott likable, couldn't disagree more. He's very unlikeable IMO.


Obviously, Scott's personality isn't going to mesh with everyone... You really liked MDA for example, and to me, his personality was extremely grating.

I also wanted a young up and coming coach... Donovan. But you and I and a few other folks is not "most"... From what I've seen and read, there are far more people mad at Scott because his isn't Thibs, Pop or Phil, than there are who are mad because he isn't Donovan, Stevens, etc...
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