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Mark Medina: Lakers to keep Scott for 2015-16; evaluate at end of season 

Post#1 » by Slava » Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:58 pm

Byron Scott still has enough support from Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak and vice president of player personnel Jim Buss that he is expected to coach through the rest of the 2015-16 season, according to team sources familiar with the situation. With Scott signing a four-year, $17 million deal last summer, the Lakers plan to evaluate his future once the 2015-16 season ends, according to a team source .

The Lakers are not happy with the persistent losing, obviously. But Kupchak and Buss sympathize with Scott on handling what one team source called “a no-win situation.”


The Lakers have granted Scott the autonomy to coach his team without interference. But Kupchak and/or Buss will likely meet with Scott next week after the team’s eight-game trip to gain a better understanding of his thought process on how he will develop the team’s young players, according to a team source familiar with the situation.


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Post#2 » by ALL HAIL » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:07 pm

Short of a few emotional posters, this is what everyone expected.
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Post#3 » by FrozenIceCubes » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:14 pm

Scotts job this year was to give the team a chance to sneak into the playoffs... Even though there is still a a lot of games to be played he has not done well in creating a identity with this group.

I don't care if he's kept for the year I just wanna see the team make progress to enhance FAs.
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Post#4 » by gts1 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:22 pm

FrozenIceCubes wrote:Scotts job this year was to give the team a chance to sneak into the playoffs..


No it wasn't... look at the line up, anyone expecting this team to sneak into the playoffs without a major collapse by several other western conference teams was fooling themselves
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Post#5 » by FrozenIceCubes » Thu Dec 10, 2015 4:31 pm

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FrozenIceCubes wrote:Scotts job this year was to give the team a chance to sneak into the playoffs..


No it wasn't... look at the line up, anyone expecting this team to sneak into the playoffs without a major collapse by several other western conference teams was fooling themselves


I don't think you read my post carefully I said "chance" to make it. meaning giving the team a shot at the end not that they would have made it... Which was a realistic expectation before the season started.
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Re: Mark Medina: Lakers to keep Scott for 2015-16; evaluate at end of season 

Post#6 » by gts1 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:12 pm

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FrozenIceCubes wrote:Scotts job this year was to give the team a chance to sneak into the playoffs..


No it wasn't... look at the line up, anyone expecting this team to sneak into the playoffs without a major collapse by several other western conference teams was fooling themselves


I don't think you read my post carefully I said "chance" to make it. meaning giving the team a shot at the end not that they would have made it... Which was a realistic expectation before the season started.
I disagree, it was never realistic that they have a "chance" to make the playoffs considering how stacked the west has been...

A team with this much youth backed up by a handful of vets which for the most part are bench players then add in Kobe at his age all coached by Scott never was in the running for the playoffs.. This season was and has always been about grooming the kids and getting Kobe through his last season
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Post#7 » by crazyeights » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:22 pm

If we had a great assistant who could be an interim coach then I could see them considering firing him. But we don't. And the person we probably want to replace Scott with is currently interim head coach of another team. Factor in the fact that Scott's only had 1 full season and I can see them keeping him just for consistency's sake.

Now it's time to position ourselves to keep the pick. The only thing I know Scott can do well.
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Post#8 » by gts1 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:37 pm

crazyeights wrote:If we had a great assistant who could be an interim coach then I could see them considering firing him. But we don't. And the person we probably want to replace Scott with is currently interim head coach of another team. Factor in the fact that Scott's only had 1 full season and I can see them keeping him just for consistency's sake.

Now it's time to position ourselves to keep the pick. The only thing I know Scott can do well.


Is it just me that's wary of Walton as a head coach?

Preface this by saying I think he's done great as the interim coach BUT this is still Kerr's system, Kerr is still at practices, still at the Warrior training facility and in touch with the coaching staff several times a day.. Walton is doing a fine job of implementing somebody else' plan but I'm wary of what his plan would be if he was the man calling all the shots... We just don't know

to me being the interim coach of the Warriors at this time is a bit like owning a McDonalds, you really can't eff it up.. even if you do you're still going to be making money hand over fist
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Re: Mark Medina: Lakers to keep Scott for 2015-16; evaluate at end of season 

Post#9 » by Kilroy » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:56 pm

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crazyeights wrote:If we had a great assistant who could be an interim coach then I could see them considering firing him. But we don't. And the person we probably want to replace Scott with is currently interim head coach of another team. Factor in the fact that Scott's only had 1 full season and I can see them keeping him just for consistency's sake.

Now it's time to position ourselves to keep the pick. The only thing I know Scott can do well.


Is it just me that's wary of Walton as a head coach?

Preface this by saying I think he's done great as the interim coach BUT this is still Kerr's system, Kerr is still at practices, still at the Warrior training facility and in touch with the coaching staff several times a day.. Walton is doing a fine job of implementing somebody else' plan but I'm wary of what his plan would be if he was the man calling all the shots... We just don't know

to me being the interim coach of the Warriors at this time is a bit like owning a McDonalds, you really can't eff it up.. even if you do you're still going to be making money hand over fist


Yeah, I personally feel Walton is along for the ride with GSW... And I really like the guy and hope he succeeds. I'd give him a flier at coach if he was available, but I wouldn't expect immediate success.
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Re: Mark Medina: Lakers to keep Scott for 2015-16; evaluate at end of season 

Post#10 » by Redeemed » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:05 pm

Pistons fan coming in peace.

What do you think about the Lakers management eventually turning the coaching reins over to Mark Jackson. Jackson deals with and develops younger players far better than Scott. Scott's lane is a vet filled team, that's not the make up of the Lakers. Coach Jackson gets very little credit for the trajectory the Warriors are on right now, but he put that into play. And even predicted that they would win the title last season based on their development.


If the Scott experiment ends prematurely how would you like to get Mark Jackson as the replacement?


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Post#11 » by Slava » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:15 pm

Redeemed wrote:Pistons fan coming in peace.

What do you think about the Lakers management eventually turning the coaching reins over to Mark Jackson. Jackson deals with and develops younger players far better than Scott. Scott's lane is a vet filled team, that's not the make up of the Lakers. Coach Jackson gets very little credit for the trajectory the Warriors are on right now, but he put that into play. And even predicted that they would win the title last season based on their development.


If the Scott experiment ends prematurely how would you like to get Mark Jackson as the replacement?


Thoughts?


Way too many distractions with him to survive in LA. Plus he's also another zero upside pick just like Scott. I'd much rather give the job to someone who has the ability to grow with this team and foster good team basketball. Jackson for example would end up encouraging the bad aspects of Randle's game rather than work with him to eradicate his tunnel vision and bring him into the fold of a Russell oriented offense.
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Post#12 » by dockingsched » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:17 pm

Hell no to mark Jackson. Horrible.
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Re: Mark Medina: Lakers to keep Scott for 2015-16; evaluate at end of season 

Post#13 » by Slava » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:17 pm

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crazyeights wrote:If we had a great assistant who could be an interim coach then I could see them considering firing him. But we don't. And the person we probably want to replace Scott with is currently interim head coach of another team. Factor in the fact that Scott's only had 1 full season and I can see them keeping him just for consistency's sake.

Now it's time to position ourselves to keep the pick. The only thing I know Scott can do well.


Is it just me that's wary of Walton as a head coach?

Preface this by saying I think he's done great as the interim coach BUT this is still Kerr's system, Kerr is still at practices, still at the Warrior training facility and in touch with the coaching staff several times a day.. Walton is doing a fine job of implementing somebody else' plan but I'm wary of what his plan would be if he was the man calling all the shots... We just don't know

to me being the interim coach of the Warriors at this time is a bit like owning a McDonalds, you really can't eff it up.. even if you do you're still going to be making money hand over fist


Well an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If he sees the structure involved in Kerr's ideas and Golden State's team synergy and subsequent success, he could implement something very similar here as a coach.
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Post#14 » by FrozenIceCubes » Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:58 pm

Hey guys what are your thoughts on getting JVG or Scott Brooks can those 2 guys lead the team to the next level?
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Post#15 » by crazyeights » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:06 pm

Scott Brooks is just as bad offensively as Jackson and Scott.
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Post#16 » by PKABOOICU » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:10 pm

ill take JVG in a second, but he's probably going to the rockets if he plans to coach again...Thibs is another good option, atleast he would instill a lot of defense....as a matter of fact, who knows, maybe thibs and Joacim Noah can reunite in LA and Noah can play Center for the Lakers and re-establish his career here as the veteran.
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Re: Mark Medina: Lakers to keep Scott for 2015-16; evaluate at end of season 

Post#17 » by The Prodigy » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:29 pm

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gts1 wrote:
crazyeights wrote:If we had a great assistant who could be an interim coach then I could see them considering firing him. But we don't. And the person we probably want to replace Scott with is currently interim head coach of another team. Factor in the fact that Scott's only had 1 full season and I can see them keeping him just for consistency's sake.

Now it's time to position ourselves to keep the pick. The only thing I know Scott can do well.


Is it just me that's wary of Walton as a head coach?

Preface this by saying I think he's done great as the interim coach BUT this is still Kerr's system, Kerr is still at practices, still at the Warrior training facility and in touch with the coaching staff several times a day.. Walton is doing a fine job of implementing somebody else' plan but I'm wary of what his plan would be if he was the man calling all the shots... We just don't know

to me being the interim coach of the Warriors at this time is a bit like owning a McDonalds, you really can't eff it up.. even if you do you're still going to be making money hand over fist


Well an apple doesn't fall far from the tree. If he sees the structure involved in Kerr's ideas and Golden State's team synergy and subsequent success, he could implement something very similar here as a coach.



Exactly. The fact that he's been part of the Warriors success is a good start, but it shouldn't end there.

He would have to demonstrate during the interview process that he has a thorough understanding of that system and that he is capable of implementing similar concepts with the Lakers.

I don't know how much faith I have in the FO being capable of doing the latter though.
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Post#18 » by LApwnd » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:38 pm

bad move but I can understand mgmt. position. They obviously can't come out and admit it but firing 3 HC in 4 season is a bad look and I feel thats the only reason they're not firing him now. They'll let this season go to waste and justify Scott firing due to lack of development and success, you dont sign a coach to 3 yrs with "options on the contract" if you thought he was going to be the long term solution. Mitch/Jim, mostly Jim have done a TERRIBLE job of evaluating HC canidates
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Post#19 » by Slava » Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:55 pm

LApwnd wrote:bad move but I can understand mgmt. position. They obviously can't come out and admit it but firing 3 HC in 4 season is a bad look and I feel thats the only reason they're not firing him now. They'll let this season go to waste and justify Scott firing due to lack of development and success, you dont sign a coach to 3 yrs with "options on the contract" if you thought he was going to be the long term solution. Mitch/Jim, mostly Jim have done a TERRIBLE job of evaluating HC canidates


Its not a bad move, it is as hard a job as it looks. I don't think anyone else could do a better balancing act than Byron is doing without pissing off Kobe or the kids in the process. There's no point making an example out of Kobe once we've weathered it this far anyways. From last night atleast the evidence seems to be that the players have taken the demotion as a hint and forged on and we are entering a pattern of making Kobe look like the figure head while simultaneously reducing his impact on games.
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Post#20 » by Sedale Threatt » Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:00 pm

crazyeights wrote:If we had a great assistant who could be an interim coach then I could see them considering firing him. But we don't. And the person we probably want to replace Scott with is currently interim head coach of another team. Factor in the fact that Scott's only had 1 full season and I can see them keeping him just for consistency's sake.

Now it's time to position ourselves to keep the pick. The only thing I know Scott can do well.


Yeah, I'm definitely anti-Scott, and I'd definitely prefer someone like, say, Brett Brown, who has done a wonderful job keeping his team engaged despite a similar lack of talent. But there's no real point in firing him now with the horrendous state of our roster. You fire somebody when you're in a situation like we were with Del Harris, falling short of expectations. In our case, we need to start amassing talent. Then we can get rid of him.

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