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Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 8:55 am
by LakersLegacy
Who is the better free agent option?
Barnes has played well for Luke this season. He has all-star potential. He is younger at age 23. 14 points per game, solid FG%.
DeRozan is an all-star. He is 26. 23 ppg, lower FG%. DeRozan loves LA.
I think Barnes style would mesh better with Luke.
If you could chose between the 2, who would you pick?
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 9:51 am
by ROballer
Is this even remotely a debate?
Barnes all day long
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:27 am
by Spens1
Barnes
keep that other chucker as far from staples (unless clippers sign him for a vet minimum) as possible.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:35 am
by Spanish_Laker
Why dat hate towards DeRozan? LMAO!
I think DeRozan is the better player, Barnes is just a role player.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 10:45 am
by mambo
Barnes all day.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 11:16 am
by Vae Victus
What is Barnes eligible max? Derozan starts at something crazy like 30% of the cap, whereas i THINK Barnes starts at 16-17 mil (actually it's 18-19)?
So either DD at 4 years 105-110 mil vs HB at 4 years 80-85 mil.
Yea its not a hard choice judging by the money and positional versatility. Barnes is a player i'm sure Luke will push hard for and he can defend 3/4, shoot 3s, and already familiar with the GSW system that Luke will try to crib. If we draft Ingram, i move him to the 2.
PG - DLo
SG - Ingram
SF - Barnes
PF - Randle
C - ???
1-3 will provide ALOT of 3 pt shooting/spacing. We go small with Barnes then 1-4 can all shoot 3s.
Edit: I was a bit off on his max offer sheet. Ok that makes Barnes lose quite a bit in value due to how much it takes to sign him, but from a fit perspective he's still a bit better overall. DD not a good 3pt shooter hurts alot.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 11:55 am
by Dr Aki
Spanish_Laker wrote:Why dat hate towards DeRozan? LMAO!
I think DeRozan is the better player, Barnes is just a role player.
cos he's your run-of-the-mill, non-efficient, average chucker
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:24 pm
by Wavy Q
DeRozan sucks
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:30 pm
by kblo247
BArnes
- He is about as young as Clarkson actually at 23 going on 24.
- He can defend which no one on the perimeter can
- He play and defend 2-4 both ways
- He knows how to play a role to win and we have no one who does the little things in our core
- He has playoff experience
- He knows what it is like to win it all
- He doesn't have the loser mentality
I don't think it is close at all between them. I mean I rather invest in Batum than Derozan despite him being fragile.
Hell Harrison Barnes would be like the equivalent of the Lakers getting Rick Fox
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:51 pm
by Mirjalovic
I dont prefer both for max, but Harrison is better.
He can play within the system, he can shoot, rarely took midrange shots, and he can do ISO when needed. Perfect SF, but i don't know if he really worth the max.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 12:56 pm
by jigga_man
kblo247 wrote:Hell Harrison Barnes would be like the equivalent of the Lakers getting Rick Fox
Any team willing pay Rick Fox equivalent 20 million a year is going nowhere fast.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 1:02 pm
by Mirjalovic
Its better than sign chucker, overrated scorer like Derozan than max.
C'mon i know he scoring 24 ppg, but lets not forget Corey Magette also averaging 24 ppg few years ago. Hey they can score, but its ugly and frustating and not reliable (can't sustained in harsh environment like playoff).
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 1:19 pm
by jigga_man
Mirjalovic wrote:Its better than sign chucker, overrated scorer like Derozan than max.
C'mon i know he scoring 24 ppg, but lets not forget Corey Magette also averaging 24 ppg few years ago. Hey they can score, but its ugly and frustating and not reliable (can't sustained in harsh environment like playoff).
I'm not arguing for Derozan. I'm arguing against giving role players max money. This supposed two way player was getting owned in the first three games by Lebron in the finals and prompted Kerr to put in a legit perimeter defender in the starting lineup in games 4,5,6. If it wasn't for Iguodala the W's would have to relied on Barnes defense and the Cavs would have won the title last year. He has only shown so far to be a distant fourth option 3 & D guy that is only fairly solid on defense. You don't give those type of guys max money.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:11 pm
by Mirjalovic
jigga_man wrote:Mirjalovic wrote:Its better than sign chucker, overrated scorer like Derozan than max.
C'mon i know he scoring 24 ppg, but lets not forget Corey Magette also averaging 24 ppg few years ago. Hey they can score, but its ugly and frustating and not reliable (can't sustained in harsh environment like playoff).
I'm not arguing for Derozan. I'm arguing against giving role players max money. This supposed two way player was getting owned in the first three games by Lebron in the finals and prompted Kerr to put in a legit perimeter defender in the starting lineup in games 4,5,6. If it wasn't for Iguodala the W's would have to relied on Barnes defense and the Cavs would have won the title last year. He has only shown so far to be a distant fourth option 3 & D guy that is only fairly solid on defense. You don't give those type of guys max money.
Agreed
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:34 pm
by Michael Lucky
Neither are very good option especially when you consider the contract they will get. I mean Barnes had a 12.3 PER. The fact that many want to give him that contract is just flat out creepy to me. DeRozan is clearly a far far better player unfortunately he's a terrible fit and someone that could just keep the team at that first or second round exit level even with other star players on the team.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 3:49 pm
by Karmaloop
Where's the option for neither?
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 4:03 pm
by myersia
I thought Barnes was a restrictive free agent? If he is not then he would be the most rewarding signing other than a miracle Durant/LeBron signing. I still think Barnes has a lot more potential that he cannot show in Golden State. Sign me up. But for the max? Hmmmm not sure about that one yet.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 5:37 pm
by RamonSessions7
Neither if that's a choice. Barnes only because of the lower salary if one has to be picked
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 6:30 pm
by Slava
The person not named Derozan is the automatic choice.
Re: Better Free Agent: Barnes or DeRozan
Posted: Sat May 21, 2016 6:50 pm
by Jody Smokz
Well Barnes isn't even a realistic option b/c of outside signing KD they are matching any offer he gets. I also doubt he even meets other teams.
Derozan is meh as a player. Being an all star is a bit of an overrated accomplishment in a conference where Jimmy Butler was hurt and Dwade is 34 years old. Derozan isn't even as good as Joe Johnson was in his prime. Huge pass. I'd rather bet on Clarkson.