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Seeing some questioning about length of contracts this time around

My thoughts are

A. Owners are looking to lock up players for longer terms at this price knowing the Cap will rise again. Any deal made this summer will be a bargain next summer. Long term contracts at lower prices on solid role players will become valuable assets easily moveable in trades in a couple years... Owners know with the cap rising again next summer it's better to lock them up sooner rather than later

B. Non elite level players of which are the vast majority of the league are looking to lock up security at a rate they'll probably never see again... Once the cap makes it's jump next summer things will normalize out over the following seasons and they'll be a lot less teams with so much extra money on hand... This is the big summer for the players and why the NBPA argued so strongly against an easing in of the salary cap over several years that the league has proposed

C. Both sides are looking down the road at the next CBA negotiation which could usher in sweeping changes, nobody is sure how this massive influx of wealth into the NBA is going to effect things but if early stances/saber rattling from the NBPA is any clue it promises to get messy. The players are most certainly going to be demanding more freedom of movement and a larger percentage of the pie two things the owners have always protected with everything in their legal arsenals.

Breakdown of the contracts agreed upon so far (doesn't include details such as 4th year is a player or team option because details have not been finalized, all contracts this time are just verbal agreements, not binding in anyway and may be amended by either side)

One, 1 year contract. (This does not include team/player options being exercised because those are old contracts)
Six, 2 year contracts.
Ten, 3 year contracts
Thirty one, 4 and 5 year contracts

Next time you wonder why the Lakers or anyone is giving out 4 year contracts at what you might consider an inflated rate it's obviously because that's what it takes this summer. It would do no front office any good to balk or stick to old school practices this summer because 90% of the league has a lot of money to spend this summer and to be competitive in this marketplace this is what it takes to do the deal and in all likelihood will again next summer if we avoid a lockout.

I'll add that smaller deals will come this summer as teams fill out the roster and there's less demand. this has traditionally been the one and two year low dollar contracts are doled out, or those loaded with options and such

I think a basic rough example to use is that a $16 mil contract is the equivalent of a $12 mil a year contract from the old cap. Under a $108 cap which is what's expected to be next year, a $16 mil contract will be the equivalent of a $10 mil a year contract.

Another example is that this $16 mil a year deal would cost the lakers $20 mil under the cap of next year.

So in terms of impact against the cap, the lakers, iff one were to use the mindset of the last cap, signed Mosgov to a $12/$10/$10/$10 contract. So like a 4yr/$42 mil deal.

dockingsched wrote:I think a basic rough example to use is that a $16 mil contract is the equivalent of a $12 mil a year contract from the old cap. Under a $108 cap which is what's expected to be next year, a $16 mil contract will be the equivalent of a $10 mil a year contract.

Another example is that this $16 mil a year deal would cost the lakers $20 mil under the cap of next year.

So in terms of impact against the cap, the lakers, iff one were to use the mindset of the last cap, signed Mosgov to a $12/$10/$10/$10 contract. So like a 4yr/$42 mil deal.

Good way to look at it. It would even be more attractive as trade bait if the contract was frontloaded. It'll be interesting to see if any teams go that route with these TV age contracts


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gts1 wrote:Seeing some questioning about length of contracts this time around

My thoughts are

A. Owners are looking to lock up players for longer terms at this price knowing the Cap will rise again. Any deal made this summer will be a bargain next summer. Long term contracts at lower prices on solid role players will become valuable assets easily moveable in trades in a couple years... Owners know with the cap rising again next summer it's better to lock them up sooner rather than later

B. Non elite level players of which are the vast majority of the league are looking to lock up security at a rate they'll probably never see again... Once the cap makes it's jump next summer things will normalize out over the following seasons and they'll be a lot less teams with so much extra money on hand... This is the big summer for the players and why the NBPA argued so strongly against an easing in of the salary cap over several years that the league has proposed

C. Both sides are looking down the road at the next CBA negotiation which could usher in sweeping changes, nobody is sure how this massive influx of wealth into the NBA is going to effect things but if early stances/saber rattling from the NBPA is any clue it promises to get messy. The players are most certainly going to be demanding more freedom of movement and a larger percentage of the pie two things the owners have always protected with everything in their legal arsenals.

Breakdown of the contracts agreed upon so far (doesn't include details such as 4th year is a player or team option because details have not been finalized, all contracts this time are just verbal agreements, not binding in anyway and may be amended by either side)

One, 1 year contract. (This does not include team/player options being exercised because those are old contracts)
Six, 2 year contracts.
Ten, 3 year contracts
Thirty one, 4 and 5 year contracts

Next time you wonder why the Lakers or anyone is giving out 4 year contracts at what you might consider an inflated rate it's obviously because that's what it takes this summer. It would do no front office any good to balk or stick to old school practices this summer because 90% of the league has a lot of money to spend this summer and to be competitive in this marketplace this is what it takes to do the deal and in all likelihood will again next summer if we avoid a lockout.

I'll add that smaller deals will come this summer as teams fill out the roster and there's less demand. this has traditionally been the one and two year low dollar contracts are doled out, or those loaded with options and such

Those are good explanations for whats going on in the NBA free agency in general. But specific objection from Laker fans is the players they signed to these contracts. The two guys the Lakers signed are in their 30s, win now guys. It doesnt fit the Lakers young time frame. If you needed veteran leadership you couldve waited til towards the end of free agency and scooped up guys for shorter, lesser contracts like you surmise will happen. If the Lakers signed Meyers Leonard to one of these types of contracts, I dont think the fans would complain (as much?).

If Mozgov is still hurt and Deng is likely to suck due to age and not caring, we aint gonna be moving their albatross contracts cuz theyre so grossly overpaid. No way to sugar coat this turd sandwich of an offseason. On the record i've got faith in Mozgov rebounding and be almost worth his deal but Deng beign utterly, UTTERLY worthless.

We could had Barnes or Bogut if only we were patient... god **** damnit.