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Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 3:25 pm
by EddieJonesFan
The reasons Luke gave for Mozgov (that he's a defensive big,) fit Biyombo pretty well, since he's a shot blocking rebounding athletic garbage man big. Mozgov is more like a servicable center who's okay at a few things, while Biyombo is really good at a two things (shot blocking and rebounding,) and he's much younger, which makes him more worth the years that they gave Mozgov. He's much different than what they already had. I just really don't get the Lakers sometimes, why are they so opposed to signing young players if they're already willing to give out long deals?
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 3:43 pm
by Slava
Biyombo isn't nearly as good a pick and roll big as Mozgov, he's a bit of a liability on offense.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 3:47 pm
by Veez
because mozgov is better than biyombo. he IS younger, but also smaller. If randle is the starting PF, they need someone to clean up after him and mozgov fit that bill moreso than biyombo. Offensively, biyombo is a garbage man. creating for himself is not his strong suit. Mozgov has better offensive game and also rolls better off a pick. He just fits Luke's system better than an offensively challenge smaller atheltic center.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 3:51 pm
by TDGlenmanor
Biyombo also thinks he's due a big role on offense. Walton probably wanted none of that
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 4:06 pm
by Hellcrooner
Guess Walton values fundamentals over Athleticism.
Hence the signings of Deng and Mozgov and grabbing Calderon .
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 4:12 pm
by YogurtProducer
Never thought i would see someone say Moz is better than Biz.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 4:13 pm
by phraoh
As a Cavs fan, I would have loved adding Biyombo (I wanted him last year when he was cheap) and he is a much better addition to any team than Mozgov. He is a MUCH better rebounder, shot blocker and defender than Mozgov... Not even close! Plus Biyombo plays with confidence, emotion and energy! Biyombo is much better NOW and younger!
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 4:49 pm
by TylersLakers
What Biyombo does from an energy, team-oriented and defensive standpoint is way better than the overall game of Mozgov. That's 100% fact.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 4:59 pm
by NYCLaker
I think Biyombo is overrated....
However, I also think many people are justifying the signing of Mozgov as well. Don't think he is anywhere as good as people make him out to be.
Also, neither seem to be good fits next to Randle.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:09 pm
by JB2
I would have taken BB over Mozgov ten outta ten times so I really disagree with what Luke/Mitch did there.
I guess in theory, Mozgov gives you more size, more of an offensive game, great in the PnR, and is old enough where he's not trying to make a name for himself-- aka you can run plenty of small ball with either Randle/Black/Nance at C.
In fact, not sure why the Lakers did anything they did. Looking back, I would have thrown a max at BB, signed Afflalo + Matt Barnes then made the trade for Calderon. At least this way you get high quality vets on 2 year deals and BB who you can always trade later.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:28 pm
by WVlakerfan
If you look at the stats even though BB is much younger he has played over 1000 more minutes than Moz and he is only better than Moz in 1 statistical category and that is blocks. 2.7 vs 1.8
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=biyombi01&p2=mozgoti01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=#per_minute::none
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 5:58 pm
by KokoKaizer
YogurtProducer wrote:Never thought i would see someone say Moz is better than Biz.
This thread got lucky to be moved from General Board to Lakers one

Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 6:01 pm
by trevm37
If this thread was made a year ago, it'd be a much different conversation.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 6:21 pm
by ak7
KokoKaizer wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Never thought i would see someone say Moz is better than Biz.
This thread got lucky to be moved from General Board to Lakers one

Well, why the heck are we the trash can for the GB's trash threads?
Geez.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 6:35 pm
by KokoKaizer
ak7 wrote:KokoKaizer wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:Never thought i would see someone say Moz is better than Biz.
This thread got lucky to be moved from General Board to Lakers one

Well, why the heck are we the trash can for the GB's trash threads?
Geez.
Too much fans I guess

Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 6:47 pm
by Jody Smokz
Lakers fans that keep harping on why they didnt go after Biyombo over Mozgov continue to miss the whole point of his signing. They also refuse to see that Mozgov paired with JC and Russell is best for THEM.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 7:39 pm
by lake_show
JB2 wrote:I would have taken BB over Mozgov ten outta ten times so I really disagree with what Luke/Mitch did there.
I guess in theory, Mozgov gives you more size, more of an offensive game, great in the PnR, and is old enough where he's not trying to make a name for himself-- aka you can run plenty of small ball with either Randle/Black/Nance at C.
In fact, not sure why the Lakers did anything they did. Looking back, I would have thrown a max at BB, signed Afflalo + Matt Barnes then made the trade for Calderon. At least this way you get high quality vets on 2 year deals and BB who you can always trade later.
"ten outta ten times" is highly questionable... But you totally lost me when you reffered to Matt Barnes as a "high quality vet" lol.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Fri Aug 5, 2016 7:41 pm
by dockingsched
Pairing Biyombo with Randle in the front court would be an absolute nail in the coffin for any hopes of developing Clarkson, Randle, and Russell. What a disaster that spacing would be.
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Sat Aug 6, 2016 12:01 am
by Danny Darko
this thread is irrelevant because Zubac
Re: Why wouldn't the Lakers go after Biyombo instead?
Posted: Sat Aug 6, 2016 4:01 am
by dipstick
Its (this topic is) also beating a dead horse.