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T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Wed Sep 7, 2016 1:39 pm
by Slava

Re: T-23: Which Lake is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Wed Sep 7, 2016 2:12 pm
by NYCLaker
I say none will make top 10.

Randle's odds are against him this season imo. With the addition of Mozgov, Deng and Ingram his rebound stats are definitely going to drop.

Ingram avg around 7 boards a game at Duke
Mozgov per36 career avg for boards is 10.
Deng career avg is 6 a game.

If Yi plays big minutes, his rebound avg (per 36) is 8

Re: T-23: Which Lake is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Wed Sep 7, 2016 3:38 pm
by crazyeights
NYCLaker wrote:I say none will make top 10.

Randle's odds are against him this season imo. With the addition of Mozgov, Deng and Ingram his rebound stats are definitely going to drop.

Ingram avg around 7 boards a game at Duke
Mozgov per36 career avg for boards is 10.
Deng career avg is 6 a game.

If Yi plays big minutes, his rebound avg (per 36) is 8


I would think if Randle has worked hard on his jumper and plays selfless ball within the offense, his minutes should increase from 28 to mid 30s. That could help account for what's hopefully a better rebounding team. We were only 21st last year.

Re: T-23: Which Lake is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Wed Sep 7, 2016 3:52 pm
by Kilroy
It's almost like people are actually afraid to give Randle any credit...

Re: T-23: Which Lake is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Wed Sep 7, 2016 3:57 pm
by NYCLaker
crazyeights wrote:
NYCLaker wrote:I say none will make top 10.

Randle's odds are against him this season imo. With the addition of Mozgov, Deng and Ingram his rebound stats are definitely going to drop.

Ingram avg around 7 boards a game at Duke
Mozgov per36 career avg for boards is 10.
Deng career avg is 6 a game.

If Yi plays big minutes, his rebound avg (per 36) is 8


I would think if Randle has worked hard on his jumper and plays selfless ball within the offense, his minutes should increase from 28 to mid 30s. That could help account for what's hopefully a better rebounding team. We were only 21st last year.


Good point. However, adding to what you wrote.

If our team plays disciplined in a system, Randle wouldn't have the option to slag off defenders for boards, especially against stretch 4s. Last season, his workrate was very overrated by fans, when in reality, his workrate was very poor.

Also, his increased in shooting will drop his offensive board numbers, since a ton of his O boards last year were from his misses.

Randle is a very good rebounder, especially for height/position. However, his numbers were definitely inflated by the fact he had Roy Hibbert as his center and Kobe at the 3 position. Also, in order for his minutes to increase, his stamina needs to improve a lot....

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Wed Sep 7, 2016 9:47 pm
by dipstick
I think among the choices, Randle rebounds per game is the most likely. Don't think it will happen but it's the most plausible.

IMHO, I think DLo made 3s or attempted 3s should be an option. He will play a ton and will be given the green light to shoot.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 12:58 am
by ArC_man
Randle was #10 in rebounds/game last year, he's likely to be in the mix this year as well.

Also, 4 options for Lou Williams? Russell had more 3PA and 3PM than Lou Williams last year and that number should only go up.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 1:42 am
by Michael Lucky
Well most likely would be Randle's rpg, as i find none of the others to so. I doubt Young or Calderon will even get the opportunity to qualify and i fully expect Lou's minutes to be down.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 2:34 am
by Mirjalovic
NYCLaker wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
NYCLaker wrote:I say none will make top 10.

Randle's odds are against him this season imo. With the addition of Mozgov, Deng and Ingram his rebound stats are definitely going to drop.

Ingram avg around 7 boards a game at Duke
Mozgov per36 career avg for boards is 10.
Deng career avg is 6 a game.

If Yi plays big minutes, his rebound avg (per 36) is 8


I would think if Randle has worked hard on his jumper and plays selfless ball within the offense, his minutes should increase from 28 to mid 30s. That could help account for what's hopefully a better rebounding team. We were only 21st last year.


Good point. However, adding to what you wrote.

If our team plays disciplined in a system, Randle wouldn't have the option to slag off defenders for boards, especially against stretch 4s. Last season, his workrate was very overrated by fans, when in reality, his workrate was very poor.

Also, his increased in shooting will drop his offensive board numbers, since a ton of his O boards last year were from his misses.

Randle is a very good rebounder, especially for height/position. However, his numbers were definitely inflated by the fact he had Roy Hibbert as his center and Kobe at the 3 position. Also, in order for his minutes to increase, his stamina needs to improve a lot....


Its a myth. Randle's rebound % actuallly better when Hibbert off the floor, and he still grabs the rebond very well next to Black and Nance.


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Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 3:23 am
by TylersLakers
I went with Calderon 3PT shooting.

However, I'd rather say Calderon FT shooting. He's an unbelievable FT shooter.

Other than those two, Randle and his RPG. I'm guessing he'll be inbetween 11-12 RPG this season.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 8:04 am
by moonpie
Write-in: Russell will finish top 10 in made 3s

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 8:46 am
by Slava
ArC_man wrote:Randle was #10 in rebounds/game last year, he's likely to be in the mix this year as well.

Also, 4 options for Lou Williams? Russell had more 3PA and 3PM than Lou Williams last year and that number should only go up.


He was actually top 10 in attempts and 3 point makes in Toronto before landing in Byron's offense.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 3:26 pm
by crazyeights
Slava wrote:
ArC_man wrote:Randle was #10 in rebounds/game last year, he's likely to be in the mix this year as well.

Also, 4 options for Lou Williams? Russell had more 3PA and 3PM than Lou Williams last year and that number should only go up.


He was actually top 10 in attempts and 3 point makes in Toronto before landing in Byron's offense.


I'm sure you already have your questions lined up, but I would be curious what's expected of Lou this year. There had been a lot of talk last year about how he could be a valuable sixth man going forward, especially locked in at 7M a year. With a new uptempo offense, and hopefully improved rotations, I'm curious what he might be able to do. He seems sort of like a wildcard for us.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Thu Sep 8, 2016 3:52 pm
by Slava
crazyeights wrote:
Slava wrote:
ArC_man wrote:Randle was #10 in rebounds/game last year, he's likely to be in the mix this year as well.

Also, 4 options for Lou Williams? Russell had more 3PA and 3PM than Lou Williams last year and that number should only go up.


He was actually top 10 in attempts and 3 point makes in Toronto before landing in Byron's offense.


I'm sure you already have your questions lined up, but I would be curious what's expected of Lou this year. There had been a lot of talk last year about how he could be a valuable sixth man going forward, especially locked in at 7M a year. With a new uptempo offense, and hopefully improved rotations, I'm curious what he might be able to do. He seems sort of like a wildcard for us.


Lost in all the crap of last season is the fact that Lou was our best player BY FAR. He was top 20 in offensive BPM, free throw attempts and makes. Despite playing on the 2nd worst team in the league, he maintained an offensive rating of 115. So in short, his effectiveness did not diminish from his 6th MOY season in Toronto. His defense is quite pedestrian and he might have shown more effort had we something to play for, so I think he'll maintain his level of play through the duration of his contract.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Fri Sep 9, 2016 9:10 pm
by NYCLaker
Mirjalovic wrote:
NYCLaker wrote:
crazyeights wrote:
I would think if Randle has worked hard on his jumper and plays selfless ball within the offense, his minutes should increase from 28 to mid 30s. That could help account for what's hopefully a better rebounding team. We were only 21st last year.


Good point. However, adding to what you wrote.

If our team plays disciplined in a system, Randle wouldn't have the option to slag off defenders for boards, especially against stretch 4s. Last season, his workrate was very overrated by fans, when in reality, his workrate was very poor.

Also, his increased in shooting will drop his offensive board numbers, since a ton of his O boards last year were from his misses.

Randle is a very good rebounder, especially for height/position. However, his numbers were definitely inflated by the fact he had Roy Hibbert as his center and Kobe at the 3 position. Also, in order for his minutes to increase, his stamina needs to improve a lot....


Its a myth. Randle's rebound % actuallly better when Hibbert off the floor, and he still grabs the rebond very well next to Black and Nance.


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Lakers frontcourt:

Hibbert
BAss: undersized PF that Scott forced to play center

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:23 am
by Mirjalovic
NYCLaker wrote:
Mirjalovic wrote:
NYCLaker wrote:
Good point. However, adding to what you wrote.

If our team plays disciplined in a system, Randle wouldn't have the option to slag off defenders for boards, especially against stretch 4s. Last season, his workrate was very overrated by fans, when in reality, his workrate was very poor.

Also, his increased in shooting will drop his offensive board numbers, since a ton of his O boards last year were from his misses.

Randle is a very good rebounder, especially for height/position. However, his numbers were definitely inflated by the fact he had Roy Hibbert as his center and Kobe at the 3 position. Also, in order for his minutes to increase, his stamina needs to improve a lot....


Its a myth. Randle's rebound % actuallly better when Hibbert off the floor, and he still grabs the rebond very well next to Black and Nance.


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Lakers frontcourt:

Hibbert
BAss: undersized PF that Scott forced to play center


read my comment properly with your head.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:42 am
by NYCLaker
Mirjalovic wrote:
NYCLaker wrote:
Mirjalovic wrote:
Its a myth. Randle's rebound % actuallly better when Hibbert off the floor, and he still grabs the rebond very well next to Black and Nance.


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Lakers frontcourt:

Hibbert
BAss: undersized PF that Scott forced to play center


read my comment properly with your head.


SHHHH, Randle grabbing boards with Hibbert +Bass as centers....

Put some stats or close your mouth. Tarik Black played less than 500mins last season......................................................................................................................................................................

Our bench when Russ and JR were demoted: Russ, Huertas, Randle, nick young and bass...... You think Nick Young is going to jack his rebound stats......

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:21 am
by Kilroy
Randle averaged 12 and 10.5 as a starter with a 45eFG and a TS% of 49.9...

He was clearly more comfortable as a starter, and remember he was also fighting the other team for rebounds too.
No reason to expect playing next to Mozgov or Tariq freaking Black would change anything.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:30 am
by Mirjalovic
NYCLaker wrote:
Mirjalovic wrote:
NYCLaker wrote:
Lakers frontcourt:

Hibbert
BAss: undersized PF that Scott forced to play center


read my comment properly with your head.


SHHHH, Randle grabbing boards with Hibbert +Bass as centers....

Put some stats or close your mouth. Tarik Black played less than 500mins last season......................................................................................................................................................................

Our bench when Russ and JR were demoted: Russ, Huertas, Randle, nick young and bass...... You think Nick Young is going to jack his rebound stats......


so what ? when Black and Randle played together Randle still grabs the rebound. David West play next to Hibbert and still can't grab 10rpg.

and how you explain he averaging 10rpg when play together with WTCS, Marcus Lee, Poythireess, and Dakari Johnson (most stacked frontcourt in whole NCAA at that time) ? The fact is, he always a good rebounder, and you CAN'T undermine that.

Re: T-23: Which Laker is most likely to finish top 10 in the NBA in a statistical category?

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:48 pm
by Goudelock
Randle is going to be top 5 in rebounds if he gets 30 minutes a game.