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I'm thinking Russell, but I'm gonna go with Kobe somehow.

This better be Russell. If it's not it's cause he's not playing or someone else is having an unimaginably bad season.

Randle had terrible turnover issues last season. Remember that offensive fouls and getting your shots blocked count as turnovers too, so its hard to choose between a sophomore PG and an inefficient big.

Slava wrote:Randle had terrible turnover issues last season. Remember that offensive fouls and getting your shots blocked count as turnovers too, so its hard to choose between a sophomore PG and an inefficient big.

Was a matter of time...

Kilroy wrote:

Slava wrote:Randle had terrible turnover issues last season. Remember that offensive fouls and getting your shots blocked count as turnovers too, so its hard to choose between a sophomore PG and an inefficient big.

Was a matter of time...

I wish he didn't turn the ball over too but I can't pretend he doesn't. Per 100 possessions among starters, Russell and Randle were top 2 in turnovers last season.

Slava wrote:Randle had terrible turnover issues last season. Remember that offensive fouls and getting your shots blocked count as turnovers too, so its hard to choose between a sophomore PG and an inefficient big.

Shots blocked are counted as missed fg's pretty sure.

Slava wrote:

Kilroy wrote:

Slava wrote:Randle had terrible turnover issues last season. Remember that offensive fouls and getting your shots blocked count as turnovers too, so its hard to choose between a sophomore PG and an inefficient big.

Was a matter of time...

I wish he didn't turn the ball over too but I can't pretend he doesn't. Per 100 possessions among starters, Russell and Randle were top 2 in turnovers last season.

Sure but every one of these threads has turned into a discussion of one players failings... Randle.
Even the one that should have been a no-brainer for him...
It's like the questions should have been called the "top 30 reason Randle sucks."

Is there any other fan-base in the league, this gleeful about proclaiming a recent top 10 draft pick, a bust?

Kilroy wrote:

Slava wrote:

Kilroy wrote:
Was a matter of time...

I wish he didn't turn the ball over too but I can't pretend he doesn't. Per 100 possessions among starters, Russell and Randle were top 2 in turnovers last season.

Sure but every one of these threads has turned into a discussion of one players failings... Randle.
Even the one that should have been a no-brainer for him...
It's like the questions should have been called the "top 30 reason Randle sucks."

Is there any other fan-base in the league, this gleeful about proclaiming a recent top 10 draft pick, a bust?

He won the player most likely to be top 10 in the league in a statistical category sweepstakes yesterday.

Yeah, shocked there were 10 people who voted for the veritable sure thing, no brainer...
The rest of the discussion seemed like an insecure grasping at why Randle wouldn't do so much as be essentially the same player as he was last season.

Hoping the turnovers drop drastically across the board with the new offense... Not sure who that'll be but I bet it's the guy who also leads the team in assists... Calderon, Huertas, Russell, maybe Clarkson and Lou... But I bet it's a drastically different statistic than last year... I think I'll go with Huertas, just because I see him coming in looking to set guys up and it'll take him a while to adjust to the new players and system.

Yeah if everyone buys into the new offense, the turnovers should take care of themselves. After all its easy to argue that Randle was put into more than his fair share of isolation situations down to the drag of an offense Lord Byron imposed on us last season. That is easily something worth looking forward to and it would help our transition defense a ton.

Slava wrote:Randle had terrible turnover issues last season. Remember that offensive fouls and getting your shots blocked count as turnovers too, so its hard to choose between a sophomore PG and an inefficient big.

LOL. I can't stop laughing. Randle does get a lot his shots blocked. Like the late great Chick Hearn would say: "He's eating a lot of leather". "He's going to be picking leather out of his teeth for days".

Slava wrote:Randle had terrible turnover issues last season. Remember that offensive fouls and getting your shots blocked count as turnovers too, so its hard to choose between a sophomore PG and an inefficient big.

His TO% is below average but far from being terrible last year, especially when you consider it was his first full season.

I'm voting DLo because I assume he will have the ball most of the time so it's only normal if he will have the most turnover too.

Gonna go out of the box and go with Mozgod, if he's expected to play-make more in the Bogut role I can see him racking up some TOs.